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Posted on 25-01-2020 19:50
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frame job on quadsas? You mean my question to marco?
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 25-01-2020 19:56
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Are you bidding me? I have a power role guys!!
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 25-01-2020 19:57
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Quick guys!! Currently sitting in the car on my way back home.
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Posted on 25-01-2020 19:57
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then post your reads now if you're cop or tracker?
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 25-01-2020 19:58
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I also now guess knockout is mafia for his swing vote, and all for saving Marco are suspicious.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 25-01-2020 19:59
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Also knockout would never risk lynching me this early in this situation otherwise.
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 25-01-2020 19:59
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First of all everyone who's wanting more action from me is essentially right, but once more there wasn't really some time for me to do more than following your posts since Thursday, but that will change as the busy time is over now.
I try an analysis of what's going on in my opinion as long as I'm still able to, but it's possible I have to stop in between because of the end of the day (sorry for that if it will happen).
So in no particular order (and not very decisive from my side, as I don't see any clear reads, though others of course may contradict):
bikex
Got more involved on Day 2, and I have a feeling (but no time to search all his posts) that I should have a deeper look at him. But that could also be because I haven't see him play before. As I said, it's a gut feeling and no clever reasoning by now.
knockout
On of the hardest reads in town. He's active as ever, it seems he invests lots of time and effort in the game, but what he really contributes will only come out when the first mafia player was found.
jseadog
I would never be absolutely sure about his alignment because of his playing style (especially in the games I followed). But as I recall it from the "debriefing" from Mafia VIII, he played the whole game as mafia (mostly out of suspicion) without ever actually saying he was town or lying about his alignment. Add his rule-changing post (though I dislike the mix-up with the real world) and I would give him some trust for now.
On the other hand it could be a monster-bluff from him, counting on jandal clarifying the rules (so he has a way out of his promise) which he himself implied/suggested. I think him at least capable of taking that risk and won't clear him from any suspicion in the future.
df_trek
It's like with knockout, but with shorter posts. Hard to judge until we know something about who's mafia for sure.
marcovdw
I don't quite understand why the lynch-train started on him and not one of the other less active players. But maybe this non-understanding comes from some of his posts which were about things I had in mind too (like that there's no real tell on anybody particular, though there might be some triangles with one mafia in it).
ryant
I treat him as confirmed pro-town, so nothing to argue about him.
But: I do recall something like he could be one of the neighbours (is that right, ryan?). In this case it could well be that the other neighbour (if mafia) influences him to some extend in an anti-town way. So while we could trust ryans motivation in general it could be necessary for us (and for him) to think about his actions and reads (in the extent they could be influenced).
If my memory got me wrong, I apologize to ryan and ask everyone else to ignore those thoughts.
bbl
I think it's possible that he and Croatia are both town, especially as their quarrel cooled town quickly when they got their misunderstandings right. This seems to me like something two townies would do: Get something wrong, think that's a read, argue strongly, get it out of the way, go on. No guarantee still.
Croatia
See bbl for now (time's running).
jaxika
I think there is no real read on him possible right now. Seems like a rookie who wants to get into the game slowly, but this could also be a tactic used by the more experienced mafia members.
quadsas
Less active than last time, but occasionally his poking on some flaws (or just bad formulations) pop up. I tend to see this more as a sign he wants to stay alive longer than last time than that he's mafia, though this could well go hand-in-hand.
hillis
One of the more quiet ones. I remember one longer analysis form him, but really there's not much to judge him about.
trekbmc
I think his luck on Day 2 is that he submerged and got himself out of the focus. It will work for him today but he will have to be active on Day 3 or the next lynch-train is probably at him. |
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 25-01-2020 19:59
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knockout wrote:
Marcovdw wrote:
If I had free choice I would've lynched jseadog1 I think, for his "I'm leaving the site if you vote me" post. Not that I want him to leave the site  but in general that is very bad thing to play at since at that point he was not really in danger of getting lynched yet (?). I get the idea that someone doesn't want to get lynched (look at me) but making threats only makes it worse.
Though Croatia14 also had some suspicion in my book, so I'm not lynching someone who I fully believe to be town just so I can save myself.
Why does everyone want to lynch jdog but nobody actually votes for him? Croatia, Quadsas, marco. I dont get it? Anything i'm missing there?
Well I have a reason as voting for him now will see me get lynched (assuming ryant is politician).
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 25-01-2020 20:00
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Guys swing every good one! Now!
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 25-01-2020 20:32
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Day 2:
A long and heated discussion in the town eventually lead to the lynching of Croatia14. Did the town hit the jackpot, or lose a third innocent settler?
Dead:
Waghlon
sammyt93
Croatia14
Alive:
trekbmc
df_trek
hillis91
jseadog1
baseballlover312
ryant
jaxika
knockout
kandesbunzler26
Marcovdw
Bikex
quadsas
8pm GMT deadline for night actions. |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 26-01-2020 20:16
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Day 3:
After the sad events of yesterday the town woke up to another tragedy. When ryant woke up this morning and made himself a cup of tea, he found his English Breakfast had been swapped out for something a little more... poisonous.
Dead:
Waghlon
sammyt93
Croatia14
ryant
Alive:
trekbmc
df_trek
hillis91
jseadog1
baseballlover312
jaxika
knockout
kandesbunzler26
Marcovdw
Bikex
quadsas
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 26-01-2020 20:21
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How is possible that Croatia was let die in last minutes of yesterday?
People who were online should have changed their vote, I have no proof now who were...if not Knockout, Marco and Kandes.
Looking at their activity in very last minutes:
- Marco was obviously the counterpart...regardless if he is Mafia or Townie I can't expect on a change of the vote by him
- Kandes was writing a very long post finished on 19.59...I can't judge if he had enough time to think on what was happening, but maybe he could do something more...
- Knockout, I'm really disappointed on how was managed the situation, had all the time to change it.
Was really this the best question to do in that moment? or maybe save him to have a chance to ask this in the next day.
Spoiler Maybe if Croatia answered he could be more trustable, but figured out he is pro-town this doesn't matter anymore and for me it's enough
Marco was a suspect already between many of you, I think that who didn't change on purpose is very likely a mafia member.
If you think Marco is pro-town imo is better to give anyway a try to Croatia and save a power-role instead a normal townie or someone who we actually don't know.
At this point knockout is on the top of my suspect list.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 26-01-2020 20:21
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This kill confirms that ryant was the politician. The question now: did the doctor not protect him this night or have we accidentally killed the doctor?
While an interesting question, I'm afraid we won't get further than speculating as the doctor revealing himself will surely mean he's next on the mafia kill list.
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Posted on 26-01-2020 20:22
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Lynch marcovdw
I fucked yesterday up badly and strongly expect to get lynched today because of that. Seeing how many votes we got yesterday on just the two top contenders i am quite sure that marco is mafia. I strongly suggest that you either vote to lynch me or to lynch marco today.
However please dont end the day prematurely and use it to analyse the situation. I dont want to interrupt the flow of the discussion too much since you probably wouldnt believe me anyway and an interaction between those still alive might be more valuable. These discussions probably shouldnt focus solely on me/marco but thats surely a topic that needs discussion. unless you want me to share my thoughts on certain topics or defend some actions further. I still think most of my previous analysis is rather good.
The situation might look bad today but the town still has two misslynches before they are in a lynch-or-lose situation so even if you lynch me today the game aint over yet.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 26-01-2020 20:28
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Curious switch knockout. Spending the last day defending me against Croatia14 in our 1v1, putting your lynch vote on Croatia14 while I was leading. If you believe either one of us is mafia you could have just voted for me yesterday, and I would have gone, instead of evening out those votes. Besides, you actually wanted to lynch jseadog1 yesterday, but couldn't due to the battle at that point, so why not start with that?
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Posted on 26-01-2020 20:43
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Marcovdw wrote:
Besides, you actually wanted to lynch jseadog1 yesterday, but couldn't due to the battle at that point, so why not start with that?
Thats a lie. At no point did i suggest that. I just wanted to see people vote for their top targets when there was still enough time left. Jdog was and is amongst those that i consider townish due to his day 1 actions and his vote against croatia doesnt change that.
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Posted on 26-01-2020 20:46
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I agree with Marco and confronting knockout about his actions and I was not online to change my vote but I likely would have believed him and switched. bbl & kncokout are now at the top of my list. knockout, why are you casting a vote for Marco already?
Lynch knockout for obvious reasons stated above and trying to gather insight from Croatia to use against town.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-01-2020 21:03
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First of all, I am sorry. Second game in a row that I've investigated a lead, taken the town towards it, and been wrong. Not a good feeling.
Croatia claiming the power role so late was bizarre to me. He doesn't say what it was, and he did it so late that it was unlikely to help. If he was the detective, it would have been nice to at least have his reads. Must have not wanted the mafia to know which roles were still around?
Ryant was an obvious night kill. Weird that the doctor didn't protect him though, knowing he was the only confirmed townie. Either the doctor's dead (Croatia?), he suspected he knew a power role and protected them, or he just took a shot in the dark and let ryant die. It sucks that we lose a townie that way.
Knockout is looking very bad to me right now. His poorly explained flip on Croatia, admittedly based on nothing but feeling, was peculiar enough. But take his points now, which are again uncharacteristically defensive and substanceless (a ton of "we should discuss this" without actual opinion from him this game). And if you take a look back on his day 2 posts, you'll notice that his most analytical ones were about Day 1 events that the town was mostly past. He was notably shallow on topics that led to his actual lynch vote. Seems like he was trying to say little to not incriminate himself, but write his usual analysis on unimportant things, to make it seem like he's normally contributing. I don't know if it makes him mafia, and as I said, my leads have been bad. But it's undoubtedly suspicious.
Also - where the hell if trekbmc and why will no one talk about it?
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Posted on 26-01-2020 22:22
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1. Because i am confident that this the vote I'm gonna stick with for the day.
2. Because he is easily the strongest mafia read i have (due to the croatia flip and how things came together)
3. Because other reads would strongly depend on marcos flip.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 26-01-2020 22:29
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(My reading of his early lynch vote)
- if both are mafia: maybe they think that one between them is likely going to be lynched today, and this clash can somehow save the other by suspects.
- if at least one of them is townie: he is probably trying to start an early train against one of the most suspected player.
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