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Tour de France 2017 | Week 2 Pyrenees
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 13-07-2017 22:29
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jandal7 wrote:
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If Bardet is not docked 20 secs before le depart tomorrow LottoNL and Cannondale should put all their riders in front of the red car tomorrow so the race can't start.
I like Bardet so I'd rather everyone gets nothing (and that's what's deserved) but this is a shambles  The fact that the UCI can apparently say when Uran did it it's not OK to take it from anyone though it obviously is and then when asked about Bardet it's OK because it wasn't a team member, ignoring the fact that Bennett and in the end actually Uran as well took it from spectators not team staff is plain wrong and bias (I know you can't expect much but this sucks )
he took it at exact the same moment as Bennett lol. Can't take the Tour seriously if they let this go
They should have punished none ofthem or all of them. Not just random
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 13-07-2017 22:31
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Spilak23 wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
If Bardet is not docked 20 secs before le depart tomorrow LottoNL and Cannondale should put all their riders in front of the red car tomorrow so the race can't start.
I like Bardet so I'd rather everyone gets nothing (and that's what's deserved) but this is a shambles The fact that the UCI can apparently say when Uran did it it's not OK to take it from anyone though it obviously is and then when asked about Bardet it's OK because it wasn't a team member, ignoring the fact that Bennett and in the end actually Uran as well took it from spectators not team staff is plain wrong and bias (I know you can't expect much but this sucks )
he took it at exact the same moment as Bennett lol. Can't take the Tour seriously if the let this go
They should have punished none of them of all of them. Not just random
Yep exactly 
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 13-07-2017 22:40
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Ffs look at Vino. Blue boys will be ready to defend i'm sure
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| Reveille |
Posted on 13-07-2017 22:55
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The UCI/ASO wants and needs a french rider to do well. It would not be good for a French rider to be docked 20 seconds and lose the stage win. Cycling will never be taken seriously when stuff like this keeps happening all the time. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 13-07-2017 23:00
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Reveille wrote:
The UCI/ASO wants and needs a french rider to do well. It would not be good for a French rider to be docked 20 seconds and lose the stage win. Cycling will never be taken seriously when stuff like this keeps happening all the time.
this starting to make me mad eather. Fuck you french!
Bohanni kick would have kicked out for tour any other nationality.
Kiwi and Columbian getting 20 sec. penalty and frenchman don't
What a fuck.
It remembers me Giro history..where all another nationality riders where like living hell how jury ..people beside roads all did fight against them...just to favor italians. |
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 14-07-2017 00:29
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Reveille wrote:
The UCI/ASO wants and needs a french rider to do well. It would not be good for a French rider to be docked 20 seconds and lose the stage win. Cycling will never be taken seriously when stuff like this keeps happening all the time.
Bardet wasn't losing his stage win even he had been penalized
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| Reveille |
Posted on 14-07-2017 01:50
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Aquarius97 wrote:
Reveille wrote:
The UCI/ASO wants and needs a french rider to do well. It would not be good for a French rider to be docked 20 seconds and lose the stage win. Cycling will never be taken seriously when stuff like this keeps happening all the time.
Bardet wasn't losing his stage win even he had been penalized
Ok, so it would just have been a GC time penalty not a stage time penalty as well? Good to know thanks. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 14-07-2017 06:15
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Spilak23 wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
If Bardet is not docked 20 secs before le depart tomorrow LottoNL and Cannondale should put all their riders in front of the red car tomorrow so the race can't start.
I like Bardet so I'd rather everyone gets nothing (and that's what's deserved) but this is a shambles The fact that the UCI can apparently say when Uran did it it's not OK to take it from anyone though it obviously is and then when asked about Bardet it's OK because it wasn't a team member, ignoring the fact that Bennett and in the end actually Uran as well took it from spectators not team staff is plain wrong and bias (I know you can't expect much but this sucks )
he took it at exact the same moment as Bennett lol. Can't take the Tour seriously if they let this go
They should have punished none ofthem or all of them. Not just random
You already cant take it seriously after stage 4, with all that Sagan-Cav-Demare drama...this is just another part of same shit...
Anyway, great to see an open race and some inner SKY drama, go go Aru!
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| Raziz |
Posted on 14-07-2017 06:40
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Reveille wrote:
What was Bennett's punishment.
I hate the ASO and whoever i in charge of penalties, its a kangaroo court.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 14-07-2017 07:56
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I still think it's Froome's to lose. I'd say Bardet and Aru will need potentially 1.30 minutes over Froome in the last tt. Only really stage 18 now where any really significant time gaps will be made.
I think Astana will strggle to control the race for Aru through the mountains without Fuglsang and Aru could be left isolated in todays stage.
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| Kalach |
Posted on 14-07-2017 08:00
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ringo182 wrote:
I still think it's Froome's to lose. I'd say Bardet and Aru will need potentially 1.30 minutes over Froome in the last tt. Only really stage 18 now where any really significant time gaps will be made.
I think Astana will strggle to control the race for Aru through the mountains without Fuglsang and Aru could be left isolated in todays stage.
Agree. Definitely at least 1 minute before that TT. But Contador and maybe Quintana could somehow help Aru or Bardet with their tactics. I think Contador certainly does not want to Froome to win next TDF
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 14-07-2017 08:35
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Contador has his own problems, like staying on bike, or not looking like a fool who should have end the carrer already. 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 09:17
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I'd love it if Sagan wouldn't return to the Tour. Saying like: f the Tour, I'm gonna see what that Giro's about and get a record Points Jerseys there instead.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-07-2017 09:44
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I didn't watch cycling back then, but looking back at some archive footage, I get the feeling this Skytrain thing is even worse than Us Postal. I mean I see Armstrong actually attacking, not from 200 m from the finish. There seems to be animo in these races.
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| ruben |
Posted on 14-07-2017 10:08
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No Ian, you are right.
With the Armstrong / Postal train, it was them working up until the first kilometers of the final climb, and then Armstrong himself would attack.
With Froome, in the beginning they did the same (2013), now, they keep riding (especially the last man) right until the finish. First with Porte, then when he left it was Poels, and this year it's Landa.
So it becomes even more boring than the US Postal train. |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 14-07-2017 10:12
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Uran and Bennett time penalties just got cancelled. What are they doing?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 14-07-2017 10:15
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The right thing?
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| Kalach |
Posted on 14-07-2017 10:22
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Ollfardh wrote:
Uran and Bennett time penalties just got cancelled. What are they doing?
Is it confirmed? Vaughters was complaining about it. Bardet took it in the same place as Uran so I think thats a right think. Jury was probably under big fire. Its good that they cancelled it. Especially for Uran 
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| Wilier |
Posted on 14-07-2017 11:03
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ruben wrote:
No Ian, you are right.
With the Armstrong / Postal train, it was them working up until the first kilometers of the final climb, and then Armstrong himself would attack.
With Froome, in the beginning they did the same (2013), now, they keep riding (especially the last man) right until the finish. First with Porte, then when he left it was Poels, and this year it's Landa.
So it becomes even more boring than the US Postal train.
Team Sky have been the ultimate killjoy ever since they entered the sport. Their tactics are boring and predictable, but there's not much to do about it since they have the strongest riders (and arguably the best preparation and materials). |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 14-07-2017 11:10
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Kalach wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Uran and Bennett time penalties just got cancelled. What are they doing?
Is it confirmed? Vaughters was complaining about it. Bardet took it in the same place as Uran so I think thats a right think. Jury was probably under big fire. Its good that they cancelled it. Especially for Uran
back to three seconds off of Quintana for Bennett too  Justice really and hopefully a sharpish message to jury though I doubt it.
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