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| Shonak |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:13
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Eden95 wrote:
Gotta feel for GVA, second straight podium and he put everything into it.
BMC had the numbers earlier on, they should have chased harder. Class ride by GVA once more though! As well as Sagan.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:14
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Shonak wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
Gotta feel for GVA, second straight podium and he put everything into it.
BMC had the numbers earlier on, they should have chased harder. Class ride by GVA once more though! As well as Sagan.
GVA's attack on the Paterberg was MASSIVE! should of been closer to the front but them the classics
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Posted on 05-04-2015 16:14
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ryant wrote:
looks like its all aboard the Benoot hype train  very good day from him as well as Elmiger and Devolder
Yeah Alak is probably raging hard reading our hype comments. 
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:15
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TIESJ HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:16
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Strydz wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
Gotta feel for GVA, second straight podium and he put everything into it.
BMC had the numbers earlier on, they should have chased harder. Class ride by GVA once more though! As well as Sagan.
GVA's attack on the Paterberg was MASSIVE! should of been closer to the front but them the classics
Yeah, he was incredible. But before that attack, BMC had the numbers and they didn't do anything. Only Lotto Soudal I think? Should have kept it a bit closer and who knows what would have happened. Hoping for GVA or Vanmarcke in Paris-Roubaix but who am I kidding? Kristoff is the man to beat.
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| ryant |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:16
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Ollfardh wrote:
Kristoff so strong today, well deserved. Terpstra was an idiot taking him to the line. Van Avermaet very strong as well, that Paterberg attack was the most impressive one I've seen.
Benoot is awesome. Like I said last week, Lotto should've given him leadership instead of letting him work for Roelandts.
Vanmarcke, I just don't know. It's not like him to be that far in the back without a reason.
Dont go that far... Roelandts is the proven and better classics rider now IMO, not that I'm bashing him, just that its a bit ludicrous to say he should have been leader (looked like he had a free role anyway, didn't work for Roelandts too much either)
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:16
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Gotta feel sorry for Terpstra: 2nd at Omloop, 2nd at Gent-Wevelgem, and now 2nd here.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:17
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Shonak wrote:
ryant wrote:
looks like its all aboard the Benoot hype train very good day from him as well as Elmiger and Devolder
Yeah Alak is probably raging hard reading our hype comments.
That's what you for being a hipster, hyping riders before they were cool. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:17
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Shonak wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Extixx EPIC FAIL once again.... Kristoff is an animal
Nah, Kristoff was just better
Come on, he didn't even try once he and Kristoff were gone. Not even on Paterberg. He played some tactical games and then he was thinking, what? That he'd win against Kristoff. In a sprint. Suuure. 
Look, if he was stronger, he had tried for sure, but probably bet his money on Kristoff needing to sit at the front for the last couple of kilometres to hold GVA and Sagan back which to me seemed like a solid tactic at the moment. Its easy to sit afterwards and say the QS played it all wrong etc. while ppl absolutely love to do, but I didnt see any tactical flaw in how they played it as a team and how Terpstra played the finale. If he felt he was stronger and indeed could leave him behind, guess what - he probably had done that.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:18
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Riis123 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Extixx EPIC FAIL once again.... Kristoff is an animal
Nah, Kristoff was just better
Come on, he didn't even try once he and Kristoff were gone. Not even on Paterberg. He played some tactical games and then he was thinking, what? That he'd win against Kristoff. In a sprint. Suuure.
Look, if he was stronger, he had tried for sure, but probably bet his money on Kristoff needing to sit at the front for the last couple of kilometres to hold GVA and Sagan back which to me seemed like a solid tactic at the moment. Its easy to sit afterwards and say the QS played it all wrong etc. while ppl absolutely love to do, but I didnt see any tactical flaw in how they played it as a team and how Terpstra played the finale. If he felt he was stronger and indeed could leave him behind, guess what - he probably had done that.
No doubts in my mind that the strongest rider won today.
+1 agree with you completely. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:20
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Riis123 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Extixx EPIC FAIL once again.... Kristoff is an animal
Nah, Kristoff was just better
Come on, he didn't even try once he and Kristoff were gone. Not even on Paterberg. He played some tactical games and then he was thinking, what? That he'd win against Kristoff. In a sprint. Suuure.
Look, if he was stronger, he had tried for sure, but probably bet his money on Kristoff needing to sit at the front for the last couple of kilometres to hold GVA and Sagan back which to me seemed like a solid tactic at the moment. Its easy to sit afterwards and say the QS played it all wrong etc. while ppl absolutely love to do, but I didnt see any tactical flaw in how they played it as a team and how Terpstra played the finale. If he felt he was stronger and indeed could leave him behind, guess what - he probably had done that.
No doubts in my mind that the strongest rider won today.
Don't doubt Kristoff was stronger but in no way Extixx could of thought that Terpstra could of beaten him in the sprint. I just don't think Extixx have played the tactics well in this classics season
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:20
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ryant wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Kristoff so strong today, well deserved. Terpstra was an idiot taking him to the line. Van Avermaet very strong as well, that Paterberg attack was the most impressive one I've seen.
Benoot is awesome. Like I said last week, Lotto should've given him leadership instead of letting him work for Roelandts.
Vanmarcke, I just don't know. It's not like him to be that far in the back without a reason.
Dont go that far... Roelandts is the proven and better classics rider now IMO, not that I'm bashing him, just that its a bit ludicrous to say he should have been leader (looked like he had a free role anyway, didn't work for Roelandts too much either)
Roelandts's only achievement is that 3rd place in Ronde he got due to smart riding and 2 guys dragging him along. What Benoot showed the last few weeks is incredible. I'm not saying the entire team should've worked for him, but he should've been co-leader at least.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:21
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Wilier wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Extixx EPIC FAIL once again.... Kristoff is an animal
Nah, Kristoff was just better
Come on, he didn't even try once he and Kristoff were gone. Not even on Paterberg. He played some tactical games and then he was thinking, what? That he'd win against Kristoff. In a sprint. Suuure.
Look, if he was stronger, he had tried for sure, but probably bet his money on Kristoff needing to sit at the front for the last couple of kilometres to hold GVA and Sagan back which to me seemed like a solid tactic at the moment. Its easy to sit afterwards and say the QS played it all wrong etc. while ppl absolutely love to do, but I didnt see any tactical flaw in how they played it as a team and how Terpstra played the finale. If he felt he was stronger and indeed could leave him behind, guess what - he probably had done that.
No doubts in my mind that the strongest rider won today.
+1 agree with you completely.
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| ryant |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:21
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Riis123 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Extixx EPIC FAIL once again.... Kristoff is an animal
Nah, Kristoff was just better
Come on, he didn't even try once he and Kristoff were gone. Not even on Paterberg. He played some tactical games and then he was thinking, what? That he'd win against Kristoff. In a sprint. Suuure.
Look, if he was stronger, he had tried for sure, but probably bet his money on Kristoff needing to sit at the front for the last couple of kilometres to hold GVA and Sagan back which to me seemed like a solid tactic at the moment. Its easy to sit afterwards and say the QS played it all wrong etc. while ppl absolutely love to do, but I didnt see any tactical flaw in how they played it as a team and how Terpstra played the finale. If he felt he was stronger and indeed could leave him behind, guess what - he probably had done that.
No doubts in my mind that the strongest rider won today.
Yeah, if Terpstra had anything he would have attacked on the Paterberg but it became clear that he was the one suffering, not Kristoff, (might have been riding for 2nd after that, but I can always be wrong)
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:22
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Riis123 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Extixx EPIC FAIL once again.... Kristoff is an animal
Nah, Kristoff was just better
Come on, he didn't even try once he and Kristoff were gone. Not even on Paterberg. He played some tactical games and then he was thinking, what? That he'd win against Kristoff. In a sprint. Suuure.
Look, if he was stronger, he had tried for sure, but probably bet his money on Kristoff needing to sit at the front for the last couple of kilometres to hold GVA and Sagan back which to me seemed like a solid tactic at the moment. Its easy to sit afterwards and say the QS played it all wrong etc. while ppl absolutely love to do, but I didnt see any tactical flaw in how they played it as a team and how Terpstra played the finale. If he felt he was stronger and indeed could leave him behind, guess what - he probably had done that.
No doubts in my mind that the strongest rider won today.
That. Would have been even more stupid by Terpstra to attack on the limit if he knew it would make him crack and lose the podium alltogether. Then much better to take the chance on Kristoff being too tired to sprint after having had to do most of the work in the last part.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:22
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Uh, he spectulacted to win a sprint against someone who had gone 1-1-1-3 in De Panne this week, won MSR last year and had already 8 wins this season. The problem is, He didn't even attack Kristoff once. Compare that to last year with the various moves and counter-moves. He betted on a sprint against Kristoff and that's the wrong decision in any possible scenario. Ergo, tactical fail no matter the outcome. At least try.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:22
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Stromeon wrote:
Gotta feel sorry for Terpstra: 2nd at Omloop, 2nd at Gent-Wevelgem, and now 2nd here.
He has a Roubaix cobble in his trophy cabinet so I don't feel for him  He raced for 2nd here so its on him, would of been better making an attack if he had anything in the tank than do what he did.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:23
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Strydz wrote:
Stromeon wrote:
Gotta feel sorry for Terpstra: 2nd at Omloop, 2nd at Gent-Wevelgem, and now 2nd here.
He has a Roubaix cobble in his trophy cabinet so I don't feel for him He raced for 2nd here so its on him, would of been better making an attack if he had anything in the tank than do what he did.
Yeah, he was racing for second and that's what he got. Seeing at how strong Stybar was, I am not sure thats good enough for this team. Its their most important race of the year after all.
Still, way better than the race they did here last year
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:25
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Well I am not going to comment at this point much Let's savour this moment for a while..
2014: 3rd Ronde U23
2015: 5th Ronde
( only thing is his lacking tactically, visible stronger than Jurgen in last 20km yet still was pulling the entire group for him..or Lotto DS is Jurgen's uncle or something )
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 05-04-2015 16:29
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Shonak wrote:
Uh, he spectulacted to win a sprint against someone who had gone 1-1-1-3 in De Panne this week, won MSR last year and had already 8 wins this season. The problem is, He didn't even attack Kristoff once. Compare that to last year with the various moves and counter-moves. He betted on a sprint against Kristoff and that's the wrong decision in any possible scenario. Ergo, tactical fail no matter the outcome. At least try.
Gotta agree to disagree there then. My point just is, the only reason Terpstra didnt attack was that he bet on himself to outsprint Kristoff after he was doing all the work the last couple of K's due to him realising that Kristoff just was stronger than him. There is NO reason he otherwise wouldnt attack.
At the same time I just wanna say that what probably could seem like me being a total fanboy or whatever, most danes I dont wanna say despise, but dont like norwegians (probably due to them having much more success in cycling), me included. It just seemed crystal clear to me that Kristoff just was stronger than everyone else today and I dont like the notion that everytime QS lose, apparantly they just made a huge fckup. That was not the case at all today, at least not to me |
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