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Aquarius
Bouhanni wins GP Fourmies, beating Greipel who launched from too far, and Coquard.

1 Bouhanni
2 Greipel
3 Coquard
4 Cimolai
5 Bozic
6 Veelers
7 Viviani
8 Hutarovich
9 Simon
10 Duque
Edited by Aquarius on 08-09-2013 15:45
 
Alakagom
Aquarius wrote:
Bouhanni wins GP Fourmies, beating Greipel who launched from too far, and Coquard.

1 Bouhanni
2 Greipel
3 Coquard
4 Cimolai
5 Bozic
6 Veelers
7 Viviani
8 Hutarovich
9 Simon
10 Duque


Nice to see Bouhanni beating Greipel, always nice boost beating one of the 3 best sprinters in cycling now.

Coquard is no surprise anymore. So far 650 points in his first pro year in CQ Ranking. I think that all says all.
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CountArach
Alakagom wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Bouhanni wins GP Fourmies, beating Greipel who launched from too far, and Coquard.

1 Bouhanni
2 Greipel
3 Coquard
4 Cimolai
5 Bozic
6 Veelers
7 Viviani
8 Hutarovich
9 Simon
10 Duque


Nice to see Bouhanni beating Greipel, always nice boost beating one of the 3 best sprinters in cycling now.

Coquard is no surprise anymore. So far 650 points in his first pro year in CQ Ranking. I think that all says all.


For all that people have been talking about Europcar losing their best riders this transfer season, everyone seems to forget that their most talented one is staying. I'm truly not sure just how far Coquard can go - him vs Sagan in a couple of years fighting over the green jersey will be just incredible.
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ruben
Europcar especially lost their best products, not best riders. See the performance dip of Rolland/Voeckler etc
 
Spilak23
Coquard is great but don't overestimate him. Demare 2012>Coquard 2013
 
sutty68
Bouhanni is certainly the man of the moment Smile
 
wogsrus
Sagan wins in Alberta. Watch highlights of the last k, the way Sagan takes the final bend is amazing.
 
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Sagan wins in Alberta. Watch highlights of the last k, the way Sagan takes the final bend is amazing.

 
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Avin Wargunnson
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Bongiorno, Hirt and Zilioli, nice to see them up there. Bongiorno a real talent, hopefuly he can keep up with this for next season, maybe achieving even greater results. As for Hirt and Zilioli, I'll keep an eye for them next season, in fact, Hirt was one of the best non-Portuguese riders in the Volta a Portugal last month, finished 16th ahead of Pardilla, and close to the top-15.

Hirt is great climbing talent, future does not look bad for czech cycling with likes of Hirt, Vakoc, Novak, Cerny.

Nice 3rd win from Peter. Grin
Now Canadian WT classics and WC.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 09-09-2013 07:07
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CountArach wrote:
For all that people have been talking about Europcar losing their best riders this transfer season, everyone seems to forget that their most talented one is staying. I'm truly not sure just how far Coquard can go - him vs Sagan in a couple of years fighting over the green jersey will be just incredible.

Nah, he will got worse from now on. Like every french rider who did anything good some year in last decades. I doubt he will ever challenge Sagan for the green, or is he a half-climber too? Also he would need to move to much better team.

He is massively overhyped here on the forum, he only wins in shit small races.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 09-09-2013 07:13
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Wilier
And Dennis wins the GC. Which is his 2nd pro win. A couple of names here can be expected at the Canadian WT races too.
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Miguel98
Still, the Canadian Classics are reserved for Costa. Cool
 
sutty68
A Good performance from Rohan Dennis throughout the race Smile
 
valverde321
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
CountArach wrote:
For all that people have been talking about Europcar losing their best riders this transfer season, everyone seems to forget that their most talented one is staying. I'm truly not sure just how far Coquard can go - him vs Sagan in a couple of years fighting over the green jersey will be just incredible.

Nah, he will got worse from now on. Like every french rider who did anything good some year in last decades. I doubt he will ever challenge Sagan for the green, or is he a half-climber too? Also he would need to move to much better team.

He is massively overhyped here on the forum, he only wins in shit small races.


Not for sure. I agree a lot of french guys come along and have one or two good years and then a lot of people feel like the French finally have a star, and then the rider disappears again, but between Demare, Bouhanni and Coquard I feel atleast one of them will be that star.

And he's not really that over-hyped. He's a good climber when it comes to sprinters, and he's had some really good results as a sprinter in fact he's beaten Kittel this year (https://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=118440)
 
Aquarius
Démare and Bouhanni have already beat top-3 members on occasions, and so has Coquard (but Kittel was not 100 % fit there, though he won a stage the day later or after), so they're already a better material than other second tier sprinters. Probably close or even with the guys like Degenkolb and Sagan in terms of speed, and better than the current Goss, Hushovd and Farrar, or Kristoff, Nizzolo, Viviani, etc.
Edited by Aquarius on 09-09-2013 21:43
 
Avin Wargunnson
valverde321 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
CountArach wrote:
For all that people have been talking about Europcar losing their best riders this transfer season, everyone seems to forget that their most talented one is staying. I'm truly not sure just how far Coquard can go - him vs Sagan in a couple of years fighting over the green jersey will be just incredible.

Nah, he will got worse from now on. Like every french rider who did anything good some year in last decades. I doubt he will ever challenge Sagan for the green, or is he a half-climber too? Also he would need to move to much better team.

He is massively overhyped here on the forum, he only wins in shit small races.


Not for sure. I agree a lot of french guys come along and have one or two good years and then a lot of people feel like the French finally have a star, and then the rider disappears again, but between Demare, Bouhanni and Coquard I feel atleast one of them will be that star.

And he's not really that over-hyped. He's a good climber when it comes to sprinters, and he's had some really good results as a sprinter in fact he's beaten Kittel this year (https://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=118440)

I agree, but i would choose Demare over him for the future. Just my guess, it will probably be the other way. Grin
But comparsion to Sagan or Degenkolb (why put these two together anyway, Degenkolb is nobody compared to Peter) sound funny, before Coquard will win constantly on the WT/HC level. Picardie, Langkawi, Besseges are another level...
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 10-09-2013 07:00
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Aquarius
Why put them together ? Because besides the three aforementioned French sprinters, those two are the only ones who beat or can beat or match the top three on occasions, and they do it quite regularly.
And I'm only talking sprinting skills here, so the point that Degenkolb won't be seen in a mountain breakaway has no importance.
 
Avin Wargunnson
And what about point that Degenkolb has overwhelming number of two wins this season (GT+classic which is good, but still). Smile

But i understand you, still i will see Coquard as great sprinter, when he will challenge the best in best races, not in their preparations. (of course he has limited chance thnaks to Europcar not being WT).
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 10-09-2013 07:36
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Spilak23
Coquard wins the sprint challenge in Quebec. Beats Nizzolo, Hofland and Lutsenko in the final sprint.

No surprise really considering his track background.
Edited by Spilak23 on 12-09-2013 22:21
 
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