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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 10-10-2014 17:10
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A great race to be a part of in the end. No victories but a few seconds and second on the king of the mountains, as well as plenty of attacking riding. Hopefully the first of many GT's for us. Thanks for the great reports SN.
Congrats to Rin, Cunego winning what looks like his last GT. |
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| ember |
Posted on 10-10-2014 17:12
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alexkr00 wrote:
Aker... so we meet again 
Though, it's isn't looking too good for me this season, I fear. Our Tour de France line up is dangerously weak, which should see you have a healthy "lead" after all Grand Tours. You should find another team to fight you for that beloved 10th place this year  |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 10-10-2014 19:29
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Gotta be pleased with that, top 10, stage win, white jersey and team classification [although scary close it was]. Thanks very uch to SN for reporting and congrats to Rin.
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| beagle |
Posted on 10-10-2014 20:27
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From perspective of my team it was awful Giro and I´m really surprised to see one team scoring even less... Still, due to great speed and brilliant reports I enjoyed whole race a lot! So, SN, thank you very much for your effort!
Big congrats to Rin, Little Prince proved his immortality again. I would favour Pluchkin or Madrazo before the race, but glad to see Cunego in top shape once more.
Regarding to updated rankings, I´m very happy seeing my team on top yet, even it´s really tight atm  I expected to be somewhere near top until end of April before start of season, now I´d like to keep the lead after Vuelta yet. My fall down will start with start of Dauphine & Swiss Tour for sure 
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 10-10-2014 21:36
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3rd XD
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| CountArach |
Posted on 10-10-2014 22:26
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And so the slip down the rankings begins... The really awful cobbled season is going to cost me dearly. Thanks for updating the rankings SN.
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| Roman |
Posted on 11-10-2014 00:05
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roturn wrote:
I hope that my team keeps scoring here and there with Keizer just having started the season and LLS still having half his race days left. GM also with lots of races left, while Vanmarcke & Co. need to deliver in the late Cobbles. Then I can indeed see me surviving the PT.
Do you remember what did I said to you before the season? Your team did here exactly what I was expecting, your team depth is absolute key here, you have a few riders who can score at least some points in almost every race. It is still going to be a long season for you, but I believe your team depth should keep you in ProTour. Nice to see that it could be realistically doable even without biggest stars. I need to admit I will root for you to do it.
From my point of view it was a decent Giro. The goal of top 10 overall was accomplished, and even Rujano didn't win a lot of points, this race was always going to be only a survivor, I could not expect anything big from here. It should get only better for me from now.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 11-10-2014 02:33
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Just to supplement the rankings update on the previous page (if you haven't seen it well... it is there, so go look at that) I thought I would update people on the way that the win tallies are looking so far. The following chart is broken up according to type of win and then overall number of wins. It does not count jersey wins.
Here is the key:
Mon = Monument
SR/Clas = Non-GT Stage Races and other classics.
GT Stages = Gt Stages
Stages = Non-GT Stages
| Team | Mon | SR/Clas | GT Stages | Stages | Total |  Festina - Canal+ | 1 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 11 |  Good Energy | | 1 | 6 | 4 | 11 |  Tinkoff Credit Systems Bank | | 3 | 2 | 5 | 10 |  Wikipedia | | 1 | 2 | 5 | 8 |  Pokerstars.com | | 4 | | 3 | 7 |  Aker-MOT | | | 1 | 4 | 5 |  Team Vueling Airlines | | | 1 | 4 | 5 |  Vesuvio-Accumalux | | 1 | | 4 | 5 |  Pendleton's | | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 |  Simply Red Bull | 1 | 1 | | 2 | 4 |  Becherovka - Kiwibank | 1 | 1 | | 1 | 3 |  Lotto - Australia Post | | 1 | 2 | | 3 |  Project 1t4i | | 1 | | 2 | 3 |  Bouygues Telecom | 1 | | | 1 | 2 |  Rothaus - Aegon | | | 2 | | 2 |  Team B&O | | | 2 | | 2 |  Metinvest-Emirates (PCT) | | | 1 | | 1 |  Oz Cycling Project (PCT) | | | | 1 | 1 |  Prio - Porto | | | | 1 | 1 |  Swisscom - UBS | | | | 1 | 1 |  VolksWagen-Mapei | | | | 1 | 1 |  Santander | | | | | 0 |  Team Bpost - Vlaanderen | | | | | 0 |
So only Santander and Bpost are yet to get a win so far (though Santander got the KOM jersey at California so as a tie-breaker they are doing slightly better in that way. Festina and Good Energy are fighting it out to be the team with the most wins this season. Festina have a massive 8 stage wins so far and, surprisingly, these are spread over a good number of riders. Good Energy on the other hand have had most of their wins come from Ponzi as we will see in the individual rankings. Pokerstars deserve an honourable mention. Not only do they have 8 wins but 4 of them have been in classics or stage races - they don't just win but they also win big.
Here are the individual rankings:
| Rider | Mon | SR/Clas | GT Stages | Stages | Total | | Simone Ponzi | | 1 | 3 | 4 | 8 | | Yuri Trofimov | | 3 | 1 | 2 | 6 | | Taylor Phinney | | 1 | | 4 | 5 | | Tom Boonen | | 3 | | 2 | 5 | | Simon Spilak | | 1 | | 3 | 4 | | Damiano Cunego | | 1 | 2 | | 3 | | Daniel Martin | | 1 | | 2 | 3 | | Frank Schleck | | 1 | | 2 | 3 | | Sam Bewley | 1 | 1 | | 1 | 3 | | Sergei Kolesnikov | | | 1 | 2 | 3 |
These are the top 10 individual winners and, at this point, they also happen to be the only 10 riders with 3 or more wins to their name. With Ponzi's race days starting to dry up it will be interesting to see how Good Energy's team can do making up for his absence.
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| dave92 |
Posted on 11-10-2014 07:23
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Entertaining race overall. I would say Cunego is a legend but that was cemented long before this race.
For my squad, nice to see Meyer and Atapuma riding well, but that late crash from Denifl hurt a bit in the end.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 11-10-2014 08:55
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Very interesting to see those win stats CA. I can't see Santander failing to win a stage at the Vuelta and TdF as well, so let's hope Bpost get themselves a victory somewhere too.
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| roturn |
Posted on 11-10-2014 08:58
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So Rothaus did just started the winning series. Better watch out. GM is close behind the top10 riders. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 11-10-2014 09:11
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It's really interesting that I have won so many stages, and yet the rider I expected most stagewins from, haven't won a single so far (Oscar Guerao). If I remember correctly he was 2nd in Köln and besides that he didn't do shyte. Possibly a top 10 or 2, but nothing better than that.
Interesting to see Kolesnikov up so high. He isn't a bad rider of course, but he has managed to overperform in terms of wins... But OK. I have two wins from David Boily and Clement Koretzky. That is overperforming aswell. Especially from Koretzky.
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 11-10-2014 10:40
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Ahh those rankings... they hurt my eyes, somebody stop'em!
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| Roman |
Posted on 11-10-2014 12:20
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Without Bewley, I would be... really bad.
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| roturn |
Posted on 11-10-2014 12:36
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Gomez Marchante just jumped from 1,5 PPRD before the Giro to 9,x PPRD after the Giro and still has 1 GT, 1 Stage Race and 1 Classic left on his schedule.
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| SotD |
Posted on 11-10-2014 13:28
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How do you calculate a one-day race in the PPRD? At a 2 day race or 1? Because if you need the data to calculate how to pick his racedays for the upcoming season, a one-day race must be calculated as 2 racedays, right?
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| roturn |
Posted on 11-10-2014 13:36
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Yep. 2 race days for classics. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 11-10-2014 13:41
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Love the rankings. How about we end the season early...? As others have said, I believe the heavy classics weighted early season and an excellent Giro have played out very well for Good Energy, but I'll be starting my graceful exit from the head of the rankings table from now on.
Once again SN, superb reports, thoroughly enjoyed reading every stage.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 12-10-2014 00:34
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What a fantastic Giro, and thanks to SN for reporting.
Great to see Cunego win, and win so dominantly again, taking the maglia rosa from stage 7 and keeping it until the end - no change in form from him, despite his year away at the Tour, and kudos to Lotto for bringing him here
Also great to see Simone Ponzi and Good Energy have an excellent Giro
I couldn't be happier with Jan Bakelants. He came here as a stage hunter, but managed to finish 13th overall. He was in the top 10 up until stage 13, and even climbed 3 places on the final mountain stage with a fantastic and audacious long range attack that netted him 3rd on the stage. All this with a Mountain stat of 75, a TT stat of 67 and a Recovery stat of 75! Unbelievable.
Jurgen Roelandts was disappointingly invisible though, even with some great leadouts from Jan.
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| Stylus |
Posted on 12-10-2014 23:43
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I read all the thread and every stage report! Fantastic race and fantastic work by SN, thank you, you really make me proud of my Giro, I hope that my new route could compete for the next year man game Giro and, after all, you encourage me to take part in this game with an all-italian team trying to partecipate into the next giro
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