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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-06-2012 10:11
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mat4404 wrote:
Just played a the Giro as a stand alone race 9 times!
3 times with original database, 3 times with PCM Spain and 3 times with RSM News. Only played the 3 key mountain stages of each tour and simmed the rest. Seems a problem I've encountered a lot is the size of groups at the finish.
If many riders attack, sometimes you see gaps. If you put pressure on at the front of the race in the style of USPS or Sky, nothing seems to happen. Using Rabobanks 9 strongest climbers I put the hammer down on every major climb, 70% effort until the final 2 climbs.
The follwoing is an example from the Stelvio stage using the PCM Spain DB.
On the penultimate climb I put Slagter, Sanchez and Kelderman on the front @ 80%. Peloton reduced to between 69 odd riders. At the base of the final climb group swelled to 80 riders!
On the final climb (25km to go) put Kruijswjick straight on the front @ 80% effort. After around 8kms he runs out of steam. The peleton is only down to 61 riders. Mollema takes over again @ 80% effort. After a further 6 kms he's burnt out.
With 11kms to go The group is still 34 strong. I'm not looking to win the stage, just see what destruction I can do so I put my final man, Gesink (80 Mou) on the front @ 80% effort. With a little over a km to go he burns out. How big is the group? 24 riders strong! Diego Ulissi (74mou) is still hanging on!
In the final km the sprint ensues. Ends with Schleck winning 23 secs ahead of Contador and 45 secs ahead of the 22 remaining riders who all finish in the same time.
How can this be? A top performance by my Rabo team, all went to plan, yet we can't even shift average climbers. All climbers with 77+ Mou finish in the bunch. None get dropped.
To be honest I don't care that my rider didn't win, not one iota. What I do care about is yet again seem to have a game who's mountain AI is way off. But they solved this problem 2 years ago. Why is it happening again.
The lack of vocal complaints about the mountain AI so far has be worried that this time Cyanide won't address the issue.
A patch still has to fix it. Though in career mode, it's already fixed. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:22
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Cyanide strikes again ? 
There's new patch 1.1.0.3. I open PCM and it says Armada requires patch 1.1.0.3 to play. I install it.
Go to play and open Armada and this comes up - " This version of game doesn't allow you to play online"
Logic ?
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:25
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Alakagom wrote:
Cyanide strikes again ?
There's new patch 1.1.0.3. I open PCM and it says Armada requires patch 1.1.0.3 to play. I install it.
Go to play and open Armada and this comes up - " This version of game doesn't allow you to play online"
Logic ?
I get exactly the same message, does this mean it doesn't work or we have to add something else  |
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:26
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Buying PCM12 obviously means so much bothering that any buyer will get heart problems early. Cyanide probably has contracts with cardiologists. 
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:29
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sutty68 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Cyanide strikes again ?
There's new patch 1.1.0.3. I open PCM and it says Armada requires patch 1.1.0.3 to play. I install it.
Go to play and open Armada and this comes up - " This version of game doesn't allow you to play online"
Logic ?
I get exactly the same message, does this mean it doesn't work or we have to add something else
No, it means Cyanide fucked up
Basically we have to wait until they release new small patch fixing this I guess or do something in game system to allow this patch to be played in Armada.
I am done with PCM for today though. Better enjoyed decent FIFA as Felix said, don't want any problems
Edited by Alakagom on 29-06-2012 17:33
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:31
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Alakagom wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Cyanide strikes again ?
There's new patch 1.1.0.3. I open PCM and it says Armada requires patch 1.1.0.3 to play. I install it.
Go to play and open Armada and this comes up - " This version of game doesn't allow you to play online"
Logic ?
I get exactly the same message, does this mean it doesn't work or we have to add something else
No, it means Cyanide fucked up
Basically we have to wait until they release new small patch fixing this I guess.
I am done with PCM for tonight though. Better enjoyed decent FIFA as Felix said, don't want any problems
You would have thought they'd have tested everything properly first, what a load of B******s this is |
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| Snuble |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:52
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Hey.
I updated to latest patch yesterday, and today I joined Armada mode around 16.50.
I played on stage, and when I was finished, a popup said there would be maintainance on the server, and that I would get disconnected soon.
1 minute later i was out. I just tried to log right in again and got the message that my version of the game was not compatible.
I think that there is a maintainance now, and that they just dont have any better message than " not compatible version"..
They should have put a message that there is maintainance and also mentioned how long time it will take.. now they are just making loads of people unsure and unhappy.
They have this great beer here in England, I really love it. Its called Pint.
--Frank Strandli, Norwegian x-football player --
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:54
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Alakagom wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Cyanide strikes again ?
There's new patch 1.1.0.3. I open PCM and it says Armada requires patch 1.1.0.3 to play. I install it.
Go to play and open Armada and this comes up - " This version of game doesn't allow you to play online"
Logic ?
I get exactly the same message, does this mean it doesn't work or we have to add something else
No, it means Cyanide fucked up
Basically we have to wait until they release new small patch fixing this I guess or do something in game system to allow this patch to be played in Armada.
So, there will be a patch to fix a patch?
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| Snuble |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:58
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Freitas. read what i just wrote above ur answer.
I dont think there is a bug.. its maintainance.
They have this great beer here in England, I really love it. Its called Pint.
--Frank Strandli, Norwegian x-football player --
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:59
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Anyone know if it's the last patch? Or is another one coming up? |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 29-06-2012 17:59
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Ian Butler wrote:
Anyone know if it's the last patch? Or is another one coming up?
There might be one more next week - that's my thought.
It may be well last one, but I believe there's one more.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-06-2012 18:01
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Alakagom wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Anyone know if it's the last patch? Or is another one coming up?
There might be one more next week - that's my thought.
It may be well last one, but I believe there's one more.
I cannot cope with the not-knowing!!!
Where can I download it, it's not on PCM.Daily yet?
EDIT: never mind, it's installing by itself by starting the game!
EDIT 2: How will we know if the last patch is there, do they tell us it's the last, or is it guesswork?
Edited by Ian Butler on 29-06-2012 18:10
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| kevtucks |
Posted on 29-06-2012 18:27
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Ian Butler wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Anyone know if it's the last patch? Or is another one coming up?
There might be one more next week - that's my thought.
It may be well last one, but I believe there's one more.
I cannot cope with the not-knowing!!!
Where can I download it, it's not on PCM.Daily yet?
EDIT: never mind, it's installing by itself by starting the game!
EDIT 2: How will we know if the last patch is there, do they tell us it's the last, or is it guesswork?
i just started up pcm12 and its auto updating to 1103 
anyone seen a changelog?
Edited by kevtucks on 29-06-2012 18:28
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 29-06-2012 18:31
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Ian Butler wrote:
EDIT 2: How will we know if the last patch is there, do they tell us it's the last, or is it guesswork?
You can version of the game by right clicking the PCM.exe file (Program Files/Cyanide/PCM12), then Properties -> Details 
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 29-06-2012 19:05
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Changelog for 1.1.0.3
[MULTIPLAYER]
- Major fix: Having been connected to a race (stage/race name, distance and profile displayed at the top of the page) with the countdown active, it is possible that the clock freezes at 00'00; the race never loads and you are never brought to the starting line.
- Fix : fix a possible crash which could happen when launching a 2nd race as a host.
- Fix: deactivate the “Escape” button during a multiplayer race.
- Adjustment : change inrace chat text color
Totally focused on Armada it seems...
Edited by Alakagom on 29-06-2012 19:14
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 29-06-2012 19:22
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I told ya
lluuiiggii wrote:
- Armada Mode
[...] and the bugs that will probably be fixed with patches (I really think they will, because imo this is the main feature of the game for Cyanide).
Meanwhile sponsors renewing, startlists, and the other things that "will possibly be fixed in patches"? Well we've already gone three patches down the road and nothing yet But I do have hopes that they'll be fixed in the next (maybe last?) one.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 29-06-2012 19:32
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lluuiiggii wrote:
But I do have hopes that they'll be fixed in the next (maybe last?) one.
I see you're an optimist.
Edited by kumazan on 29-06-2012 19:33
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 29-06-2012 19:45
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kumazan wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
But I do have hopes that they'll be fixed in the next (maybe last?) one.
I see you're an optimist.
Well, taking the 2 last games (excluding PCM10 since it was bugged to the point we had a patch released in October), the last patch always took a big longer to be released and fixed some considerable stuff (when there was still considerable stuff to be fixed). But yeah, if we are not optimists who will be, Cyanide?
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| devnl |
Posted on 30-06-2012 11:00
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I cannot understand that a developer that works this way is actually still able to keep itself from bankrupcy. It's not like they bring out a really buggy game once, it's a recurring pattern with a community that apparently is OK with that. That's ridiculous.
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| ronnygj |
Posted on 30-06-2012 11:24
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devnl wrote:
I cannot understand that a developer that works this way is actually still able to keep itself from bankrupcy. It's not like they bring out a really buggy game once, it's a recurring pattern with a community that apparently is OK with that. That's ridiculous.
Lack of competition. Consumers don't have a choice and our (or a big enough part of us) desire to play a cycling manager/simulation game is too strong not to buy.
And they probably end up in a circle where they use so much resources in patching the game, that they begin on the new one to late to get that one "finished", but if they drop launching a game for one year, to catch up, they lose to much revenue. |
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