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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-04-2013 18:57
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kumazan wrote:
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Haha people still thinking Contador can win the Tour 
Face it, he's the wrong side of 30 and past it.
Only Froome is really ahead of him, so he can win the Tour. Not the top favourite though.
I'm not so sure others aren't better.
Pellizotti2 wrote:
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Haha people still thinking Contador can win the Tour
Face it, he's the wrong side of 30 and past it.
I find it funnier that people still think that Andy is capable of winning the Tour. He couldn't do it in 2009 and 2010, when he was a better rider, so I no way that could happen now - especially considering his last two seasons.
Not to mention that he now has to fight Froome as well.
EDIT: Okay, technically he did win the Tour in 2010, but I don't count that one. It's blank, as far as I'm concerned.
Plus, he had literally the two tour routes of all time most suited to his single skill - climbing. Still couldn't do it. There has never been a tour as biased towards climbers as those two. If he couldn't do it then, he will never ever win it.
Then again, he's a stage racer who's never won a stage race so...why does anyone think he can win the Tour?
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-04-2013 19:03
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Contador has suddenly gone from good to meh after his suspension.
He still won the Vuelta last year, albeit with far less ease than he'd have done prior to his suspension.
Now two possibilities for his future (aka from now to late July this year), either he's doing much more whilst training and working on one big peak in July, which could be the only solution to beat Sky, either he's past it.
In my opinion (but of course it's just an option), it's a bit of both. He's probably having some hard times realizing he'll never be the rider he once was (there are various chemical reasons for that), but he also knows he need to be at his very best in July to stand a chance, so unlike previous seasons he must be working on one big season objective. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 21-04-2013 19:03
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issoisso wrote:
kumazan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Haha people still thinking Contador can win the Tour
Face it, he's the wrong side of 30 and past it.
Only Froome is really ahead of him, so he can win the Tour. Not the top favourite though.
I'm not so sure others aren't better.
Me neither, but as long as others don't show they are clearly ahead of him, I won't rule him out. Plus I expect Saxo to improve their cereals for the Tour.
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| ppanther |
Posted on 21-04-2013 19:12
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-04-2013 19:29
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Not really relevant
Yep, been mentioned 
That's relevant, that's by far his best
Also uphill. Not a steep uphill, but uphill.
Not sure how that supports your argument.
Anyway, if you insist on digging through results...
https://www.cqrank...ceid=17165
https://www.cqrank...ceid=19163 (sprint for 2nd)
https://www.cqrank...ceid=20731
https://www.cqrank...ceid=21302
https://www.cqrank...ceid=23164
https://www.cqrank...ceid=23211
https://www.cqrank...ceid=22157
https://www.cqrank...ceid=22038
There are more, but I'm not sure if they were uphill or not
But the most relevant are the sprints between 2-3 people. A sprint in a bigger group is very different, as you can get a quite high placing while being slow just by following the correct wheels
Edited by issoisso on 21-04-2013 19:29
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-04-2013 19:33
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Plus grouped sprints usually mean a much higher speed to start from, so less explosive riders cope better with it, whereas actual sprinters would cope better in small groups because the starting speed is lower and thus favours explosiveness more. |
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| ppanther |
Posted on 21-04-2013 19:37
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issoisso wrote:
Anyway, if you insist on digging through results...
God, no.
But even in your examples he finished somwhere in the middle of the groups he was in. What i want to say is, he might be no top sprinter, but also not especially bad for a climber.
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| krisa |
Posted on 21-04-2013 19:43
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Daniel Martin: I'm a very happy man now
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-04-2013 22:44
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ruben wrote:
Contador has suddenly gone from good to meh after his suspension.
he still won Vuelta..even when he was not best rider. what is Contador best result at Ardennes anyway?
purito did everything correctly..atack at the 1km banner is he' s trademark. But Martin was just to fresh at this point. Great team around a man.
Valverde took again max out..smart man again at podium |
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| alex344 |
Posted on 21-04-2013 22:45
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Guido Mukk wrote:
ruben wrote:
Contador has suddenly gone from good to meh after his suspension.
he still won Vuelta..even when he was not best rider. what is Contador best result at Ardennes anyway?
purito did everything correctly..atack at the 1km banner is he' s trademark. But Martin was just to fresh at this point. Great team around a man.
Valverde took again max out..smart man again at podium
Still it must be a bit frustrating for Valverde three podiums and no win |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-04-2013 22:46
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alex344 wrote:
Still it must be a bit frustrating for Valverde three podiums and no win
Can't tell if you mean Ardennes, Vuelta or Worlds
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| alex344 |
Posted on 21-04-2013 23:01
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issoisso wrote:
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Still it must be a bit frustrating for Valverde three podiums and no win
Can't tell if you mean Ardennes, Vuelta or Worlds
Slight mispell I meant two podium not three at Ardennes. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 21-04-2013 23:29
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That was a Brilliant ride from Daniel Martin, first time i have shouted at the tele for ages |
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 22-04-2013 02:17
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Hesjedal needs to take a huge amount of credit as well. Super domestique performance. |
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| alex344 |
Posted on 22-04-2013 02:19
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wogsrus wrote:
Hesjedal needs to take a huge amount of credit as well. Super domestique performance.
Which is why I think he will win the Tour de Romandie, |
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| TTtheGladiator |
Posted on 22-04-2013 02:54
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In regards to Andy Schleck...
When you can't decide between two options, flip a coin. Not because the result of the coin will choose for you, but because, in that split second before the coin lands, you'll know what side you want it to fall on. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 22-04-2013 06:59
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Nice win from Martin and great job from Hesjedal to set it up. I only saw last 15kms, but i suppose that was enough for the outcome.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-04-2013 08:18
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Amusing: Unzué says Valverde lost the race because...wait for it....the electronic gear change malfunctioned so he couldn't change gear
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| TTtheGladiator |
Posted on 22-04-2013 08:38
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issoisso wrote:
Amusing: Unzué says Valverde lost the race because...wait for it....the electronic gear change malfunctioned so he couldn't change gear
Interesting, Ivan Gutierrez said that they'd fixed that when I spoke to him at the TDU this year. They all said that is was much better, and that they had sorted all the issues out... Apparently not...
He's deleted his facebook since then so I can't provide any proof unfortunately, but here is Madrazo's showing us as friends I guess. Hopefully I'm believed here... (probably not, but hey, skepticism is important in progression)
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 22-04-2013 10:22
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issoisso wrote:
Amusing: Unzué says Valverde lost the race because...wait for it....the electronic gear change malfunctioned so he couldn't change gear
He didn't have any problems with it on top of Saint-Nicolas.
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