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| niconico |
Posted on 17-12-2014 21:52
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Pluchkin back in yellow as he was one year ago! Right now I'm definitely the most worried about Simon Spilak as he looks really strong. It is weird though seeing Madrazo so incapable of living up to his stats.
Only gotta hold the jersey for ten days now! Let's go!
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| Crommy |
Posted on 17-12-2014 21:56
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Excellent work from Rein. Top 5 looks unlikely, so he needs to work on that 6th spot, and try and fend off those very dangerous riders behind him.
Great battle up the front though, no idea which way it's going to go!
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| dave92 |
Posted on 17-12-2014 23:34
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It was a strong run from Phinney and I am very happy with the team thus far.
Given the gaps he would still need to impress a great deal to hang on to a podium spot, but the solid riding of Pinot and Talansky is also helpful. Perhaps they can be a bit more aggressive now without defending the jersey.
I'd have to say part of me is pulling for Pluchkin given his luck in the past.
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 18-12-2014 08:17
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Another fun report to read, good aggressive ride from both Kolesnikov and Kritskiy. Next four stages (Hill, Flat, Hill, Flat) will be crucial for us, hope to be still top-10nish by then, to go all out in the last 4 mountain stages.
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 18-12-2014 08:19
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Spilak 
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| CountArach |
Posted on 18-12-2014 08:19
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This is turning into a great GC fight.
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| Smowz |
Posted on 18-12-2014 08:27
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Yes a nice stage and showing that really all this endless talk about accelleration being super important is in part utter tripe. Spilak provides a nice show of power to drop Pluchkin - daily form is possibly a bigger factor.
What is nice here is that we are getting different people getting ahead all the time. Madrazo for example at one stage looked quite good but then he just didn't follow the move at the end.
Annoyed that no SRB riders in break - that was a good one for KoM points. Pleased though that Bodnar in particular avoided the time cut - I see Bennati only just avoided it will be interesting if he can make the most of that.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-12-2014 08:41
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Smowz wrote:
Yes a nice stage and showing that really all this endless talk about accelleration being super important is in part utter tripe. Spilak provides a nice show of power to drop Pluchkin - daily form is possibly a bigger factor.
Really Smowzy? I found that words a bit too harsh as my reasons for talking about it so much comes from close following of all man-game divisions. Daily form is obviously a very big factor and nobody denies that ,but we were talking about clearly the most important secondary stat and that is indeed acceleration in terms of change from past editions.Also daily form is not even a stat that you can possibly influence in off season...
Spilak still has very good ACC btw.
Anyway, big congrats to Festina, with Spilak finally getting that win. This should be thrilling battle till the end. 
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 18-12-2014 08:42
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 18-12-2014 09:01
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Schleck was never going to dominate all mountain stages, and it was only a matter of time before Spilak or Pluchkin managed to win solo, and today it is Spilak. It would have been nice to gain more on Amador and Phinney though.
Also great to see Medvedev pursue the breakaway two 2 days in a row. The set up work yesterday is well rewarded today, and 2nd in the standings is a good position to be in. Quite good though that 1t4i have something to cheer about still after Henao fell away.
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| Heine |
Posted on 18-12-2014 09:27
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Monsalve is too strong for my riders to go in the early breakaway, and apparently too strong (well placed) to go on the mid-stage attack. Then again, he's too weak to have any chanse at a victory while attacking late / staying with the favs...
This is anyway exciting to watch. Building up to a really interesting finish with the best GT-riders of the game up there 
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| Smowz |
Posted on 18-12-2014 10:01
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Smowz wrote:
Yes a nice stage and showing that really all this endless talk about accelleration being super important is in part utter tripe. Spilak provides a nice show of power to drop Pluchkin - daily form is possibly a bigger factor.
Really Smowzy? I found that words a bit too harsh as my reasons for talking about it so much comes from close following of all man-game divisions. Daily form is obviously a very big factor and nobody denies that ,but we were talking about clearly the most important secondary stat and that is indeed acceleration in terms of change from past editions.Also daily form is not even a stat that you can possibly influence in off season...
Spilak still has very good ACC btw.
Anyway, big congrats to Festina, with Spilak finally getting that win. This should be thrilling battle till the end.
Yeah well I said in part utter tripe - I certainly cannot ignore that sometimes acceleration seems to help particularly in helping attacks stick or in sprints. Some of the other secondary stats (other than obvious RES) seem to have much smaller effects such as STA and REC. In particular in the case of Alarcon for example
I think of plenty of stages where guys with low acceleration have done well though such as Denifl (ACC 64) at the Vuelta.
I do believe that daily form however seems to have a greater impact in this edition as evidenced by some of the Time Trial results.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-12-2014 10:29
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@ Smowz:
Spoiler Yeah, i pretty much agree with what you said, as daily form also seem to risen up on importance from pcm 12 to pcm13. As i could also observe from Ignatiev races in TT, maybe daily form makes biggest imnpact in TTs this year? But i am still pretty much settled on opinion that from stats, ACC is second most important stat next to the "basic" used stat as MTN or HILL.
Sorry for slight off topic, go Spilak! 
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 18-12-2014 10:29
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| Rin |
Posted on 18-12-2014 10:29
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Loving those mountain stage reports, this years GT gave me a good idea where I want my team next season at.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-12-2014 10:44
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Noooooooooo.. Before two flat stages, **** you Vantomme you sucker.
Marquez doing well, shame no one from our team is going for KoM but oh well.
I am wondering if Madrazo was added to the MG DB with a constant injury  I mean you can't always finish on every stage in 82/83 group, same at Giro really
Great win for Spilak, finally delivering big result after his training. Nice one. Battle is heating up should be a great last week.
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| SotD |
Posted on 18-12-2014 12:32
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Fuck yeah! That was really nice. Im not really used to winning Tour de France stages.
You had me shitting myself for a while, when it Said "bad luck for Festina" until I noticed it was just Rolland. And he isnt even riding for me :-)
Pluchkin still in the lead, but atleast Phinney is now behind.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 18-12-2014 12:58
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Polka dots
Vanendert could have tried to go for a few more points, but in the end I can't complain. I wonder if he can actually stand a chance to wear the jersey in Paris.
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 18-12-2014 16:21
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I imagine Schleck is going to jump Amador any day now, so Amador is going to have to start puling back time on Phinney if he wants that 4th place.
Congrats SotD!
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 18-12-2014 16:26
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SotD wrote:
You had me shitting myself for a while, when it Said "bad luck for Festina" until I noticed it was just Rolland. And he isnt even riding for me :-)
Anyway great reports
Stage 10:Schleck ,Henao
Stage 11:Schleck ,Madrazo ,Henao
Stage 12:Spilak,Madrazo
Great win SotD
Hopefully Schleck can pass Amador and Phinney for the last podium spot
Oh,and
6 Rein Taaramäe Bouygues Telecom + 5'25
7 Angel Madrazo Santander + 5'36
Edited by Forever the Best on 18-12-2014 16:32
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Gracias Alberto.
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| Roman |
Posted on 19-12-2014 06:25
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Well, at least König tried!
And congrats to SotD!
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| roturn |
Posted on 19-12-2014 08:18
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Henao Montoya apparently learned a bit too much from Gesink.
Really a lot of bad luck for him as he looked so strong before.
Smowz finally getting his breakaway appearance with a nice win as well. Volkswagen also with a good result.
My team should have joined as well as we are in a similar situation as VW without a sprinter left. I guess Roux could have liked the stage a lot.
Unfortunate for the remaining sprinter teams. But with reduced numbers and many mountain kilometers in the legs, not unusual to allow the breakaway a chance. |
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