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Project 2100 - 2nd edition!
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 16-02-2014 21:52
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 19-02-2014 00:34
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I've refrained myself from commenting in this thread, because there are so many people who own the whole truth of PCM in this thread that I don't think my knowledge gets to their feet. Apparently most people here aren't stating opinions, but rather absolute facts. Ok.
Therefore, I don't want to do any long-ish text or argumentation, so I'll try to limit myself to a few words: yes, Kentaurus .xmls are not perfect and could be improved; yes, the Expansion Pack development of young riders hasn't been the best you've seen, and other releases probably got it better; hell no are the .xmls the only reason of it. I haven't seen anybody mention age of decline, nor the limitations of PCM that doesn't allow for a proper and good peak/declining system (Quintana 84 MO on 2024? Yeah sure  ), nor the development speed - part of which can be controlled in the .cdb - which we've tried to change for the Expansion Pack, and maybe it wasn't a good change.
Ruben, I understand the .xmls included in the 2014 DB are yours? I haven't played a career long enough to see it working in game, and thus I could very well be wrong, but, in the first career I've created, the 99 current riders with SP limit of 80 or higher doesn't look good at a first glance. Nor the 27 other young riders with such limits for SP that should pop up after a few years.
FroomeDog99 wrote:
48 Tour stages for Cavendish stands out for me though, as well as Kittels 49 at the Giro. Couldn't ever see that happening in real life.
And you won't see it ever happening in real life. Lots of reasons for why PCM can't do this realistic: very few injuries, little in-race fatigue when simulating, bad declining system, lack of randomness in achieving peak forms, and, quite importantly, the fact that flat stages simulated will most time be contested by all sprinters, even if there are some hills in the end (which in 3D could take them out of the race). Similar reason for why Cav won 5 MSRs out of what, 7 or 8.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 25-02-2014 12:26
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My impression regarding the development of young riders is that it's fairly good, though not perfect. The developement is set to 0.3 in my career, if you wish to know.
Riders usually doesn't reach 80+ in a vital stat (MO, SP, TT, etc.) untill they are 27-28 or older. The age of decline for most riders is 34 years old. I haven't done the math, but I'd say 70-80% have 34 as their peak year.
The few riders who reach 80+ before 27-28 does so at 24-25, but they have one thing in common; they all come from my academy. I have the best trainers you can get and I monitor their development carefully as to get the best out the time they spend with me. If a climber has 80 in MO and 1 star left and 72 in HILL with 3 stars left with just a year to go the contract, I'll train him in hills as to get as close to the max value in as many stats as possible.
The main problem with my 2011-story was that records were never broken since nobody won anything before the age of 29, atleast. This gave them a 3-4 year window where they could win a race. Just to equal the Tour-record, you'd have to win the TdF every year for 5 years straight.
The reason behind that was the contracts; amazing riders where being signed as helpers, which was probably the reason why they never got to go for the win in races. Only at 28-29 did they become a team leader.
This has now changed, riders can become leaders earlier on, meaning they have a bigger window of opportunity. This allows them to get bigger wins earlier on, and in turn perhaps break records.
In essens, it seems that the big difference might lay in the use of trainers? I do not know if the staff quality is accounted for in CPU-controlled teams, but if it is, that might be the reason why all my talents develope so much earlier than all the others. The fact that we are now seeing historically low cobbled-stats, but a huge variety in hill-riders might be considered a feature, perhaps. As long as it doesn't persist, of course.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Stevenag |
Posted on 26-02-2014 11:41
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Domestique
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Just read through most of this, and I have a small request for a new «feature».
There is no indication at the moment of how the teams look, and what riders are in the same team. Some screenshots of some of the best teams would be great.
Both to understand what happens better, and to get an indication for how well the team building works (not great I would imagine).
Some transfernews as well could be fun.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 26-02-2014 19:06
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I'll get on it, I've got a bit of free time for the next three weeks. The previous two have been incredibly busy.
I'll give you the WT-teams with squads and originial team name.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 26-02-2014 20:00
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Classics Specialist
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Jost Group (Differdange)
Lafarge (Europcar)
Vittoria (Fantini)
T-Mobile (Euskadi)
Soleco (CRelan-Euphony)
Sky (Sky)
Nike-Oracle (Movistar)
Schuller (Baku Cycling Project)
Skoda (Etixx Inhed)
Orica-GreenEdge (Orica-GreenEdge)
Mobile-Aeropostal (Astana)
ICBC Bank (Champion Systems)
IKEA (Vacansoleil)
Air France (Ag2R)
Andalucia (Caja Rural)
Carglass (Colombia)
American Express (Cannondale)
IBM (Belkin)
Ekoï (Sojasun)
Edited by cactus-jack on 26-02-2014 20:03
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-02-2014 20:59
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Tour de France Champion
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Interesting. Team quality seems to have dropped quite a bit.
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
PCMdaily Awards: 12x nomination, 9x runner-up, 0x win.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 27-02-2014 15:58
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The overall quality has dropped a bit when you look at the riders stats, yes. There are two with 80 average, the rest are below.
Atleast the teams are consistent; Ekoï and Nike-Oracle have been up there in the top 3 CQ-ranking almost every year.
I will start reporting on sponsor changes aswell as some team changes from major riders.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 27-02-2014 16:00
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Tour de France Champion
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Differdange, Baku & Etixx in WT is surprising though. Quite funny, those are about the last teams I'd expect in the WT 
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 27-02-2014 16:35
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Since I only provided rosters for the WT-teams, here are the names and division of some of the more wellknown teams;
FDJ -> Sodexo (Continental Tour)
Lotto-Bellisol -> Duvel (Continental Tour)
Omega-Pharma-Quickstep -> Gazprom (Pro Continental Tour)
RadioShack-Leopard -> TEAM Microsoft (Pro Continental Tour)
Lampre-Merida -> TEAM Gucci (Pro Continental Tour)
Saxo-Bank -> Astana (Pro Continental Tour)
Argos-Shimano -> Le Coq Sportif (Pro Continental Tour)
Garmin-Sharp -> Kodak (Continental Tour)
BMC -> Euskatel-Euskadi (Pro Continental Tour)
Katusha -> Petronas (Pro Continental Tour)
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 27-02-2014 16:36
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cactus-jack wrote:
Saxo-Bank -> Astana (Pro Continental Tour)
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
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| Stevenag |
Posted on 27-02-2014 17:54
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Domestique
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Actually better than expected when it comes to team building. The quality is down, but that doesn't affect the team building.
There seem to still be some national focus for the teams, and there even seem to be some sort of logic in skills. I don't know if I things that aren't there though. Do anyone know if there is implemented in the game a logic that makes the AI team sign domestics for their stars? So a team with the worlds best cobbler, would sign good team mates for him? |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 27-02-2014 17:58
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Well, at least there's a setting for the teams on which specialities they focus. For example, OPQS is set on cobblers, TTists & sprinters(top-of-my head, I haven't checked, but I assume so), and therefore they sign them.
So there's something like that, yeah
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 27-02-2014 18:01
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I'm a little disappointed that the teams whose sponsor has changed nationality hasn't had that reflected in their squad, e.g. T Mobile don't have a german squad but still have a spanish squad, same with IKEA having a dutch squad instead of Swedish and nike oracle should probably be American instead of Spanish now.
Jesleyh wrote:
Well, at least there's a setting for the teams on which specialities they focus. For example, OPQS is set on cobblers, TTists & sprinters(top-of-my head, I haven't checked, but I assume so), and therefore they sign them.
So there's something like that, yeah
and sometimes if you go for a bigname rider they request you also sign someone else, but I'm not sure if it's normally someone who can help them or if the same is true for AI teams or not.
Edited by sammyt93 on 27-02-2014 18:02
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 27-02-2014 18:02
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Tour de France Champion
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Well, I think Ikea has a Dutch sponsor region(Their HQ is 'here', so that's a bad example. But I agree with you
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
PCMdaily Awards: 12x nomination, 9x runner-up, 0x win.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 27-02-2014 21:01
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I've taken a look in the editor from time to time and I
ve noticed a few things; first, someone with 8 in potential only comes along every third year or so, as should be, but every year you have a lot of riders with 7 in potential, almost too many, in my opinion.
Second; the guys who do have 8 are more "jack of all trades, master of none". There are a couple with a potential to reach +/- 75 in ever stat, but not higher, making them kinda useless.
Good news, though, I've gotten back in the sadle and a new update is underway.
PS: I've made a few minor changes to the layout, hope you'll like it!
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| 547984 |
Posted on 27-02-2014 21:50
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Sky are still Sky, but what happened to Sky?  
baseballlover312, 06-03-14 : "Nuke Moscow...Don't worry Russia, we've got plenty of love to go around your cities"
Sarah Palin, 08-03-14 (CPAC, on Russian aggression) : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 27-02-2014 22:40
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Tour de France Champion
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BMC became Euskaltel-Euskadi |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 01-03-2014 12:20
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Classics Specialist
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2030
The king is dead, long live the king
This review will mostly be focused on one man. And rightly so. A few years ago two riders herald a new age of cycling, two German stars who where thought to become legends after some time. Well, one of them might allready be there. A new king of cycling has emerged.
The early season started of with Jozef Kaminski taking the win in the Tour Down Under. Having had his breakthough season last year, many where expecting great things from the young Pole. Isroil Khamidullaev, one of the best allround riders in the world, broke onto the stage by having a fenomenal start to the year, winning E3 Harelbeke and Ronde van Vlaanderen, aswell as coming 2nd in Paris-Roubaix and Gent-Wevelgem.
When Peter Helbig and Jozef Kaminski emerged on the scene a few years back, many saw in them the potential to dominate cycling. They were right. The duo took a total of 13(!) WT-wins this season between them, an unprecedented number. But the podium is small and there is only room for one man. Peter Helbig, having shown he masters the hilly one day- and week long races to perfection, he surprised many by showing his provess in the mountains awell.
Alexander Schwarz, who came from the same academy as Helbig, was seen as the man who would dominate the Grand Tours for years to come. Having shot off like a rocket in his debut season, he hasn't been the same ever since. It seems that the German duo, who this writer thought would ravage Europe, has become a one-man show.
Shane Scott and Yeray Ballesteros have made the Giro and Vuelta, respectivly, their home. Scott has now won 3 Giros in 4 years whilst Ballesteros did the same in Spain. Over the last six seasons, Ballesteros has come 1st three times and 2nd three times also, and impressive achievement. The Tour, however, elludes him.
The autumn saw Helbig continue his dominance by winning three of the last four races. Hacvng debuted two years ago, in 2028, his list of achievements is impressive. Honorable mentions goes out to Caleb Ewan, who has won a GT-point jersey every year since 2025. bringing his tally to 5 consecutive Giro-jerseys and 2 in the Vuelta, and Dennis Christensen who surprised everyone by going on a "one-man suicide breakaway" in the World Championships which ended with the rainbow jersey.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 01-03-2014 12:25
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Regarding Peter Helbigs palmares since he debuted in 2028, they are;
- 2 Vuelta Ciclista Pais Vasco
- 2 Tour De Romandie
- 2 La Fleche Wallonie
- 2 Tour De Suisse
- 2 San Sebastian
- 2 GP Quebec
- 2 Tour of Beijing
- 1 GP Montreal
- 1 Amstel Gold Race
- 1 Tour de France.
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