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| romaniangoat |
Posted on 19-07-2013 18:48
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Nieve really deserve 78 MO.3rd on Ventoux,strong performances on Ax 3 and Alpe d'Huez.For me he is in top 6 climbers of this year tour.He beat AC,Fuglsang in all mountain stages of this tour.Also overall he was better than Mollema,Ten Dam and D.Martin.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 19:31
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lluuiiggii wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
but really, the REC, RES, and STA are important in 10+ day races, and need to be discussed more.
Well, not that much in the current state of the game 
Kaimelar wrote:
Resistance: Has no effect in 3D mode for human players
Recuperation: Has no effect for 3D mode for human players
Recovery is for between stages. Wouldn't make sense in 3D mode except for Porte.
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| Kristoffer |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:59
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Missing Betancour as one of the top climbers. In the Giro, on most mountain stages, I think he was the one capable of best following Nibali (except from that drugged Santambrogio). Also managed to burst away on some stages, mainley due to a really good ACC. Dont se him climb any worse than Valverde, Uran or Mollema at least. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:17
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He's on the same level as Uran and Mollema (78), plus he has 79 in hill, as well as brilliant acceleration.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:27
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Alakagom wrote:as well as brilliant acceleration.
He really does.
Which makes sense. Smaller guys like him tend to accelerate so much faster than the tall climbers like Sánchez or Basso
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:19
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hmm what I don't like is the idea of low potentials for current topriders which you are using for quite some time.
Some of them are -27 and should have more potential to grow, but because of the potential limits they all stay static. Which makes careers too predictable. I want to have careers where one time a guy like for example Nieve can turn into a monster, and the other time not. Ofcourse I could use random potential. But if you give him a potential of 6 and use the kentaurus XML files he could still turn out to be either great or sub-top.
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| Kristoffer |
Posted on 20-07-2013 12:35
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Alakagom wrote:
He's on the same level as Uran and Mollema (78), plus he has 79 in hill, as well as brilliant acceleration.
That acceleration is well deserved, for me should be higher than the likes of Quintana. For me, he is also a better climber than Mollema. I'll think i'd rather see Betancour as 79 than Mollema as 77 though. |
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| SweatyViking |
Posted on 20-07-2013 14:53
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Alexis Vuillermoz 73 MO 72 HIL? |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:32
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Froome 83
Quintana 82
Rodriguez 81
Valverde 80
Porte 80
Contador 80/79
Likely to be stats for the top climbers after the Tour. Contador is a tough one, a difficult choice.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:35
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Talansky should have 78 mtn or at least amazing recovery.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:38
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Contador definitely 79 for me. Dropped by Valverde and Porte (on the stages he went max) on every hard stage.
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:41
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I would put Nibbles on 82 aswell. He destroyed conpetition in Giro.
Agree with all other stats.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:46
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Alakagom wrote:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Rodriguez 81
Valverde 80
Porte 80
Contador 80/79
Likely to be stats for the top climbers after the Tour. Contador is a tough one, a difficult choice.
That better be just Tour climbers. 
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:49
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Rodriguez 81
Valverde 80
Porte 80
Contador 80/79
Likely to be stats for the top climbers after the Tour. Contador is a tough one, a difficult choice.
That better be just Tour climbers.
From that list only Nibali is missing at 81, if you are talking about the strict elite.
About Talansky, he'll be either or as you said, we'll see about that.
Nibali will stay at 81 as 1) highest other rider in DB he beat at Giro where 78's 2) as Aquarius posted his numbers were improved from last year Tour, but not by that much hence I think it's unlikely he would have challenged either Froome or Quintana at Tour, on the long climbs at least.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:50
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Rodriguez 81
Valverde 80
Porte 80
Contador 80/79
Likely to be stats for the top climbers after the Tour. Contador is a tough one, a difficult choice.
That better be just Tour climbers.
Yeah, Nibali and VDB missing. Though I'm not sure if Quintana is a worse climber than Froome after the last stages.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:51
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Someone please give Evans a 50 on recovery. Thank you!
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:52
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Ollfardh wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Froome 83
Quintana 82
Rodriguez 81
Valverde 80
Porte 80
Contador 80/79
Likely to be stats for the top climbers after the Tour. Contador is a tough one, a difficult choice.
That better be just Tour climbers.
Yeah, Nibali and VDB missing. Though I'm not sure if Quintana is a worse climber than Froome after the last stages.
Froome just trying to look human.
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| romaniangoat |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:57
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Froome 83
Quintana 82
Rodriguez 81(high rec)
Valverde 80
Porte 80
Contador 80/79
Continuation in my opinion
Kreuziger 79
Mollema 78(low rec)
Fuglsang 78
Talansky 78
Nieve 78(also low very low acc and high ftr)
Kwiatkowski 76 or maybe 77
Ten Dam 77
Nibali is ok at 81.He isn't on Quintana level.Also for me Purito is better than him.The level of competition in Giro was very low.
Edited by romaniangoat on 20-07-2013 17:00
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| juju33 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 16:59
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when will the next uptodate pcmdaily available as the TDF is finished now?
and if it is possible someone could give me the stats of top 10 climbers. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-07-2013 17:02
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juju33 wrote:
when will the next uptodate pcmdaily available as the TDF is finished now?
and if it is possible someone could give me the stats of top 10 climbers.
Few days after the Tour I expect to release a cdb. here.
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