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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 13:11
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valverde321 wrote:
alex valceanu wrote:
Daggen wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Daggen wrote:
The tour will be a battle between Froomey and Conta.
Don't rule out Joaquim Rodrigues. Katusa is focusing totally on TdF. They even rested Daniel Moreno, so that he could help JRod in mountains. Plus Menchov will help too. And JRod has been working on his TT a lot, which he has not done in past. He was using Mercedes F1 GP wind tunnel, last month for aerodynamic position testing.
If you look at Nibali, who worked very hard with his positioning and recon of the TT stage in the Giro, he was still 11 seconds behind Wiggins who had a bike problem.
The fact that talks against JRod is he was a worse TTer than Nibali. Froome and Conta have almost a identical TT which is slightly worse than Wiggins.
But maybe if he gets a big gap of about 1.5 minutes he can defend himself in the TT
Froome better TT-er than Conta !
Remember, Froome has magically become the best Stage racer in the world since last year. 
I think TdF will be 3 horse battle between Froome, Contador and J.Rodriguez.
Yes currently Froome is much, much better than anyone and most likely to win the TdF. But you cant simply rule out Contador.
He has won 7 out of last 8 GT he has participated. Now people will say about disqualification and all, but fact that he won and has been consistent. When he came back last year nobody expected him to be up there, but he won due to his consistency. Its not over yet. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 16-05-2013 13:14
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Nin1388 wrote:
I think TdF will be 3 horse battle between Froome, Contador and J.Rodriguez.
Yes currently Froome is much, much better than anyone and most likely to win the TdF. But you cant simply rule out Contador.
He has won 7 out of last 8 GT he has participated. Now people will say about disqualification and all, but fact that he won and has been consistent. When he came back last year nobody expected him to be up there, but he won due to his consistency. Its not over yet.
That's irrelevant. What matters is how good he is now. Otherwise Petacchi would be winning every sprint, based on past ability.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-05-2013 13:32
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Yup. Tyler Farrar just beat Sagan. 
And last time too. Great win for Farrar, i almost forgot this man can win a stage. 
You wanna bet on that?
We can, are the pcms transferable?
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-05-2013 13:34
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issoisso wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
I think TdF will be 3 horse battle between Froome, Contador and J.Rodriguez.
Yes currently Froome is much, much better than anyone and most likely to win the TdF. But you cant simply rule out Contador.
He has won 7 out of last 8 GT he has participated. Now people will say about disqualification and all, but fact that he won and has been consistent. When he came back last year nobody expected him to be up there, but he won due to his consistency. Its not over yet.
That's irrelevant. What matters is how good he is now. Otherwise Petacchi would be winning every sprint, based on past ability.
Contador will still be top3 at the Tour, hard to see it otherwise. But Froome level? Doubt it,maybe with whole bus of steaks.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 21:45
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Yup. Tyler Farrar just beat Sagan.
And last time too. Great win for Farrar, i almost forgot this man can win a stage.
You wanna bet on that?
We can, are the pcms transferable?
Maybe if we can get an admin here. Can we met a bet here? Admin come help us. And with Farrar's odds I will take tons.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 22:36
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Echelons
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| cio93 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 22:44
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valverde321 wrote:
Echelons
Thanks, I saw no need to tune in until 20k to go
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 22:49
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Van Garderen in the front group. Acevedo , Deignan not. Sprinters in front group are Sagan, Farrar, Matthews, and Hushovd, so no problems for the them,. 18 men in front by 40 seconds.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 22:51
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Rogers and Busche up front as well.
Puncture for Farrar now, very unfortunate.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 22:54
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He got back easy.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:09
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Gap down to roundabout 30 seconds.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:09
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I really hope NetApp pull this back. I want Craddock to do well, and with the TT he may even Top 5.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:10
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Candelario only non-WT rider at the front?
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| cio93 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:11
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Spilak23 wrote:
Candelario only non-WT rider at the front?
Yep.
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| Metriz- |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:11
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valverde321 wrote:
I really hope NetApp pull this back. I want Craddock to do well, and with the TT he may even Top 5.
I haven't been wathcing closely, but according to the tour tracker Craddock is even further back. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:14
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Metriz- wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
I really hope NetApp pull this back. I want Craddock to do well, and with the TT he may even Top 5.
I haven't been wathcing closely, but according to the tour tracker Craddock is even further back.
Yup, no surprise as he was sitting at the back all day both yesterday and the day before
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| cio93 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:15
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Metriz- wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
I really hope NetApp pull this back. I want Craddock to do well, and with the TT he may even Top 5.
I haven't been wathcing closely, but according to the tour tracker Craddock is even further back.
Frank, who was supposedly in that group another two minutes down, just got classified as being in the chase group. Plus, Busche isn't mentioned to be in the front group anywhere even though he is.
Not 100% reliable concerning single riders, it seems.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:15
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Tourtracker is wrong though, he is in the Acevedo group with teammates working
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:16
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Why is Orica riding in the front group??. So what Matthews is there, just stay with him and help him in the sprint even if the peloton comes back.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
It's difficult not to be happy when you're surrounded by Belgians. - Mark Cavendish
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:16
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Spilak23 wrote:
Metriz- wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
I really hope NetApp pull this back. I want Craddock to do well, and with the TT he may even Top 5.
I haven't been wathcing closely, but according to the tour tracker Craddock is even further back.
Yup, no surprise as he was sitting at the back all day both yesterday and the day before
Really? :-o I hadn't know that. I was just going by his improving climbing ability and proven TT ability. He was still 9th going into today though, so I guess he finished in the bunch yesterday.
I wonder if its just inexperience or of somethings affecting his performance.
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