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Ian Butler
Really? I've found it quite realistic.
No complaints from me in that department. In Ardennes it's usually Gilbert - Rodriguez - Schleck etc, in TDF it's mostly about Contador, Schleck, Evans. Vino attacks a lot.
Pretty good if you'd ask me.

Of course, I'm not saying it's perfect, I've had some strange outcomes, but generally I'm quite content about the DB.
 
SportingNonsense
Ian Butler wrote:
Really? I've found it quite realistic.
No complaints from me in that department. In Ardennes it's usually Gilbert - Rodriguez - Schleck etc, in TDF it's mostly about Contador, Schleck, Evans. Vino attacks a lot.
Pretty good if you'd ask me.

Of course, I'm not saying it's perfect, I've had some strange outcomes, but generally I'm quite content about the DB.


If all youre interested in is who wins the top races, then sure, the Cyanide DB does a decent enough job at that. But away from the top riders, the stats become increasingly random - it lacks depth of quality.
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jph27
SportingNonsense wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Really? I've found it quite realistic.
No complaints from me in that department. In Ardennes it's usually Gilbert - Rodriguez - Schleck etc, in TDF it's mostly about Contador, Schleck, Evans. Vino attacks a lot.
Pretty good if you'd ask me.

Of course, I'm not saying it's perfect, I've had some strange outcomes, but generally I'm quite content about the DB.


If all youre interested in is who wins the top races, then sure, the Cyanide DB does a decent enough job at that. But away from the top riders, the stats become increasingly random - it lacks depth of quality.


Yeah, Hutarovich is 79 in Sprint and Wiggins only 78 in Mountain and TT. Then you have some bizarre things lower down, like randomly overrated French riders.
 
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Ian Butler
SportingNonsense wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Really? I've found it quite realistic.
No complaints from me in that department. In Ardennes it's usually Gilbert - Rodriguez - Schleck etc, in TDF it's mostly about Contador, Schleck, Evans. Vino attacks a lot.
Pretty good if you'd ask me.

Of course, I'm not saying it's perfect, I've had some strange outcomes, but generally I'm quite content about the DB.


If all youre interested in is who wins the top races, then sure, the Cyanide DB does a decent enough job at that. But away from the top riders, the stats become increasingly random - it lacks depth of quality.


I agree with that.
I've mostly raced top races on PCM 2011, so I'm only talking about those.
I do not know a lot about the lower-rated riders, so I can't say anything about it.
 
okalux
gameplay video

https://www.youtub...3dC1t1HCF8
 
lluuiiggii
Did I really just read on Cya's forum that the profile can be zoomed in? Right now that the slope colors are gone?
 
ricotero_uy
More screens!

https://www.upload...14/608743/
 
climeon
Seems as though attacking is still flawed Sad
 
lluuiiggii
https://www.uploadplaatjes.nl/img/n/60.../n/608751/

This screen looks interesting. The house on the right of the road doesn't look like a city (otherwise it would have some sort of ground) but does have a wall. And the houses on the top right, near the x kms to go banner also seem to be this way. Could be useful for the smaller cities (I dislike cities with 2 houses and all those city stuff - pavement, etc).
 
Ian Butler
Yep, looks like creating stages will be even nicer Grin
 
Alakagom
lluuiiggii wrote:
Did I really just read on Cya's forum that the profile can be zoomed in? Right now that the slope colors are gone?


That's the only thing I am concerned with the profiles now, it looks good but it doesn't provide you with gradients, hope as you said that it can be zoomed in and gradients seen.
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FreitasPCM
Well, I like how the stage profiles are shown now. Smile
 
lluuiiggii
Alakagom wrote:
..hope as you said that it can be zoomed in and gradients seen.

Well that's actually the contrary of what I said (actually of what I kinda quoted):

max13150 wrote:
Natalz wrote:
Les profils sont très jolis mais trompeurs, surtout si on ne peut pas zoomer : les côtes paraissent toutes plus impressionnantes qu'elles ne le sont vraiment et il faut alors se reporter à la catégorie du col pour en évaluer sa difficulté puisqu'il n'y a plus le orange/rouge pour voir la pente

On peut pas zoomer et c'est bien dommage mais sa apporte une difficulté supplémentaire :lol:

At least that's what the translator gave, if someone can correct me it would be good (=if I haven't understood it right and it actually is possible to zoom) Smile
 
cio93
lluuiiggii wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
..hope as you said that it can be zoomed in and gradients seen.

Well that's actually the contrary of what I said (actually of what I kinda quoted)


You wrote "can" instead of "can't" Wink
 
kumazan
lluuiiggii wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
..hope as you said that it can be zoomed in and gradients seen.

Well that's actually the contrary of what I said (actually of what I kinda quoted):

max13150 wrote:
Natalz wrote:
Les profils sont très jolis mais trompeurs, surtout si on ne peut pas zoomer : les côtes paraissent toutes plus impressionnantes qu'elles ne le sont vraiment et il faut alors se reporter à la catégorie du col pour en évaluer sa difficulté puisqu'il n'y a plus le orange/rouge pour voir la pente

On peut pas zoomer et c'est bien dommage mais sa apporte une difficulté supplémentaire :lol:

At least that's what the translator gave, if someone can correct me it would be good (=if I haven't understood it right and it actually is possible to zoom) Smile


It says that you can't zoom in the profile, yup, but you said that you can. Pfft

It was obviously a typo though, it was clear in the context.
 
cunego59
Okay my French may not be the best but from what I understood, it says that you can't zoom in on the profiles, and they also appear more difficult than they actually are, so you basically have to rely on the category of the climb to figure how difficult a climb in fact is.
 
cio93
Yay. Add something fancy, but combine something annoying with it.
I guess the second patch at the latest will enable zooming in.
 
lluuiiggii
Ups, small typo indeed.

cio93 wrote:
I guess the second patch at the latest will enable zooming in.

Let's hope so. The thing I've actually liked from the new graphics (and nearly the whole game) is also bugged Pfft
 
cio93
lluuiiggii wrote:
Ups, small typo indeed.

cio93 wrote:
I guess the second patch at the latest will enable zooming in.

Let's hope so. The thing I've actually liked from the new graphics (and nearly the whole game) is also bugged Pfft


Quite frustrating indeed, but nothing new from Cyanide.
But without slope colours, zooming in is pretty much necessary to anticipate the racing.

Especially considering it worked absolutely fine so far, I don't know what prevented them from including it.
It shouldn't be a big deal to apply the basics for zooming to the new profiles after all?
Edited by cio93 on 20-06-2012 23:26
 
Ian Butler
Well, it could be a pos thing that you don't know the slopes. Maybe stage recon has more effects that way. Or maybe you just gotta be able to guess every hill.
It'll probably bug everyone in the beginning but it could turn into something nice, maybe.
 
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