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TdF'13 Stage 10: Saint-Gildas-des-Bois to Saint-Malo (July 9)
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| Malkael |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:03
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Race Commissars must be getting weak if they have changed a tap on the wrist from relegation to something softer, about a year late damn you  . Not even like Cavendish has a hope in hell for the Green Jersey, so it would be like a tap on the wrist I would guess. Not like OPQS are starving for World Tour points either.
Though it comes with the downside of Sagan moving up a position, and so Greipel pulling back even less of his lead. Then again, what chance does Greipel have of catching Sagan anyway. |
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:04
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If you don't see Cavendish obviously 'nudge' Veelers, and intentionally, you're not really looking. Cav may have wanted the wheel ahead but this isn't a legal way to obtain it. He didn't have to veer left and Veelers didn't move dramatically to the right nor continue to do so after the first movement. It appears Cav was blocked out by the normal course of racing and was frustrated/annoyed and acted based on that.
Should be disqualified from the stage and given a suspended tar/feathering sentence in the main square of St. Malo (which is lovely and ideal), should he do it again.
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:05
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Yeah, I agree on Goss. What happened to him?
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:06
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Has Cav been disqualified or not? Can't be bothered to read through 11 pages |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:08
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Yeah, I agree on Goss. What happened to him?
My opinion is that nothing happened. He had his moment to shine, he used it, now everyone expect great results from him. IMO , he always was (is) overrated.
I am not saying that he is bad sprinter,but just not good as Kittel , Greipel , Cavendish , Sagan and so on.
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| Malkael |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:08
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So far no punishment for Cavendish. However, Argos-Shimano will lodge a complain now with that verdict. Which knowing the stubbornness of the Commissars at times probably still means no punishment. |
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:08
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Yeah, I agree on Goss. What happened to him?
He was gobbled up by le lapin de monstre géant de Breton on the penultimate corner where the island split the road and sent some Lotto riders wide left. He should be fine for tomorrow.
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:08
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Ian Butler wrote:
Has Cav been disqualified or not? Can't be bothered to read through 11 pages No he hasn't. Lucky bugger. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:09
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Goss is not professional enough. A bit lazy plus a bit too much beer sometimes
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| Wilier |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:09
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Greipel blames himself for his loss, saying he was afraid to go too fast in the last corner. So even sprinters have fears, then. |
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| Malkael |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:10
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If they, OGE, had of just stuck to the damn left and not swerved over to the right of the road they would have been fine. All that swerving and everything screwed the train up, and ironically everyone went back to the left anyway later. |
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| krisa |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:10
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers is half a metre left to the white line when Cav jumps out of his wheel:
He is on the other side of the white line when their shoulders touch:
You skipped the part where Cav jumps out of his wheel. And he's a lot more to the right. Just take a look to the white line and then look to veelers ....
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| Mwuhi |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:13
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krisa wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers is half a metre left to the white line when Cav jumps out of his wheel:
He is on the other side of the white line when their shoulders touch:
You skipped the part where Cav jumps out of his wheel. And he's a lot more to the right. Just take a look to the white line and then look to veelers ....
He was riding on the white line for a couple of seconds, then slipped away to the right, when Cav was going way to early anyway to the left. Even if Veelers didn't went to the right, the frontwheel of Veelers was hit by Cav. |
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:13
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I think both were riding dangerously.
Cavendish steered left way too early and aggressively, but Veelers should've kept a straighter line.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:13
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If Cavendish will escape punishment, it is certainly because of his name, as we have seen punished far less dangerous moments at Tour in last years (like Goss last year for example).
I think it was not intentional, but very dangerous and dull. The fact that Cav is moving so much to the sides in sprint like Abdujaparov reborn was not helpful either.
Good that Cav apologized by media at least.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:14
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If there is someone to blame, might want to blame the organisers for choosing such a narrow final km plus having a turn less than 200 metres from the line.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:14
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krisa wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers is half a metre left to the white line when Cav jumps out of his wheel:
He is on the other side of the white line when their shoulders touch:
You skipped the part where Cav jumps out of his wheel. And he's a lot more to the right. Just take a look to the white line and then look to veelers ....
You can also see Cav leaning to the left in the second picture, indicating he was moving left, perhaps preparing a collission with Veelers.
Edited by Wilier on 09-07-2013 18:15
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| krisa |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:16
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DubbelDekker wrote:
I think both were riding dangerously.
Cavendish steered left way too early and aggressively, but Veelers should've kept a straighter line. Sprint are always dangerous 
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| Gulvplanke |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:17
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
If Cavendish will escape punishment, it is certainly because of his name, as we have seen punished far less dangerous moments at Tour in last years (like Goss last year for example).
I think it was not intentional, but very dangerous and dull. The fact that Cav is moving so much to the sides in sprint like Abdujaparov reborn was not helpful either.
Good that Cav apologized by media at least.
You're hatred for Cav is clouding your judgment. Cav was pre-maturely trying to turn left to get on Greipel's wheel. It wasn't a good move, but if Veelers had kept to his line, there would be no crash. It wasn't intentional from any of them. Just bad sprinting.
How hard can it be?
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:17
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You can also see Cav leaning to the left in the second picture, indicating he was moving left, perhaps preparing a collission with Veelers.
That's the key observation. He's not leaning to correct balance or against a push, it's a clear 'lunge' or shoulder barge.
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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