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Here's for hoping with PCM11
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 23-04-2011 04:42
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Lachi wrote:
Thinking about the Be-a-Pro mode, I can image much whining in this forum:
- Why haven't my team applied for the wild card of the race I wanted to participate?
- Why haven't I been selected for the TdF?
- Why is nobody protecting me in the race?
- I only have to carry bottles in all races, why?
- My team mates hate me, where can I change that in the editor?
- Why is my team hiring a better [your own rider type] type of rider. Now I cannot be captain in the races.
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| superider2010 |
Posted on 23-04-2011 17:25
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Lachi wrote:
Thinking about the Be-a-Pro mode, I can image much whining in this forum:
- Why haven't my team applied for the wild card of the race I wanted to participate?
- Why haven't I been selected for the TdF?
- Why is nobody protecting me in the race?
- I only have to carry bottles in all races, why?
- My team mates hate me, where can I change that in the editor?
- Why is my team hiring a better [your own rider type] type of rider. Now I cannot be captain in the races.
an ideia of virtual rider mode and some questions of lachi will be covered
first your player created should be verry young and have an average 60,an option to choose a speciality and the rider to have a big potential 7 or 8
so if you are verry young(18 years) and low average,you must have offers of continental teams,so you'll not participate in important races/tours at beginning
but you train and after 4 seasons to be at an average 72 and if you are playing(not simulate all time) and you win some races or small tours to enter in eyes of pro-tour team scouts at age 21-22 and transfer at a pro tour team
after more 2 seasons to be at average 78 at an age 24 and after more 3 seasons the max average to be an 82-83 at age 27
and when you are a verry good rider you will participate in important races/tours as a leader,so you must choose wiselly your pro tour team
the manager must send you an info of your status(before you enter in a race) in that race/tour and you must do your job if you are leader or you are a free rider or must protect your leader and be at train
and if your speciality it's sprinter and you participate in a tour(but the stage it's flat),if you have status sprinter,the half of team(or more much,just the leader not) should prepare your sprint in the last 25-20 km and if they are good in the last 15-10 km to make a train for you
posibility the tactic to change in race
in game the manager to give you some orders like :be at train,carry bottles,protect leader,leader down you are free,leader down you are now our leader,......
must be implemented a button for 8-10 races/tours you like and automatically your pro team manager select you in team and if you have a good average to put you leader for your favorite races/tours
still dreaming but if they can do these things,i think many people will play 12-14 seasons in this virtual pro rider/ become a pro rider(fifa/pes mode)
somebody want to be lance armstrong,bernard hinault,miguel indurain,someone want to be mario cipollini,paolo bettini,erik zabel,other want to be cancellara,boonen on coblestones or cancellara,tony martin on time trial
this i hope for pcm2012 or 2013
i didn't write so good,but some people will understand what i'm saying
why it isn't a pole for virtual rider/be a pro rider mode?
maybe the pole will have lots of votes and votes for introduce this mode,maybe cyanide will consider and thinking seriosly for next year or next 2 years |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 23-04-2011 18:11
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Why are you still discussing this? A Cyanide member said in an interview, that PCM2010 will not have a Be-A-Pro mode. https://www.pcmdai...admore=608
BTW: PCM2011 will be in stores soon. You better continue your discussions in a "Here's for hoping with PCM12" thread. |
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| superider2010 |
Posted on 24-04-2011 06:05
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firstly it isn't that thread,pcm2011 not released
secondly,i know the game will be release soon,not thanks to info cruetrue
i playing a lot since pcm 2007 and i know they release the game every year before tour du france(because it's tour du france fever and could sell the game to other people who aren't a pcm fan)
i know they can't make this mode even they want,even they try for pcm2012 or 2013 or 2014,but that's the name thread "here's hoping.."
the game is always too buggy,here Gesink rules the world of velo said verry good and agree with him,but i still want this mode
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| Lachi |
Posted on 24-04-2011 16:00
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I do not understand most of your writing. Cyanide never said that they cannot do such a mode. Also they never said that they want to make it or try to make it. They only said that there will not be a Be-A-Pro mode.
BTW: I didn't want to take away your hopes, I just think your chances are very small. |
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| sciby |
Posted on 25-04-2011 20:03
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Is anyone able to explain me what the screen is about? is it a backside cover of the game? How could this be at this time? And what is standing on it?
https://www.cyanid...29#p375741
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| cuxu |
Posted on 25-04-2011 20:14
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sciby wrote:
Is anyone able to explain me what the screen is about? is it a backside cover of the game? How could this be at this time? And what is standing on it?
https://www.cyanid...29#p375741
My French is...well there is no French with me
It should be the backside cover of the game. |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 02-05-2011 14:53
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I have a few things I'de like to see in PCM 2011; one of them being an easy way to see the major transfers that have taken place during the previous year. If I remember correctly there was a sorta similar feature last year.
I would also like to see some more history. By that I mean more detailed history for all the races in the game. Ofcourse they don't have to be given a nice front page like the history for the three GTs, but I would like to see records for most stage wins in a year, during their career, etc. for all the races.
Since the PCM Daily DB usually includes more races, there could be some form of editor where we could include the history ourselfs. |
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| lennybernstein |
Posted on 02-05-2011 15:16
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Domestique
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cactus-jack wrote:
I have a few things I'de like to see in PCM 2011; one of them being an easy way to see the major transfers that have taken place during the previous year. If I remember correctly there was a sorta similar feature last year.
I would also like to see some more history. By that I mean more detailed history for all the races in the game. Ofcourse they don't have to be given a nice front page like the history for the three GTs, but I would like to see records for most stage wins in a year, during their career, etc. for all the races.
Since the PCM Daily DB usually includes more races, there could be some form of editor where we could include the history ourselfs.
I echo both these points.
On the whole, I would like to see more development of the managerial side of the game. The game play is already quite good, but some of the most successful sports management games, like the Football Manager series, involve much more in-depth management elements, so that training, youth development, media handling, finances, etc, become much more of a feature of the game.
It would also be great to bring doping into the game, which would make it much more realistic! |
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| riptorian |
Posted on 02-05-2011 15:54
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I would also love to see them work more on the management side of the game. PCM2010 was more about the graphics and lets face it. The game has been graphic wise fine since 2008 and graphics with shallow gameplay will not keep me interested for long.
I would love to see them revamp the training section. The whole star thing seems stupid. I would rather have something so when you ie. train mountains, you lose TT and flat abilities. In case of stage races rider, the higher potential they have the less they lose and the more they gain or something. I am not a big fan of the whole "cap" of how much a rider can have in stats. Like some can only have 75 out of 85. Might just be me.
The whole scouting section could also need a revamp, same with the finance and goals section, but atleast they are working on the goal section with extra sponsors and jerseys, which is a very nice improvement  |
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| Ellingsrud |
Posted on 02-05-2011 16:21
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I think the sprint gameplay needs to improve. The 'Flat' and 'Hill' stats is way too critical. For example:
Even on almost a completely flat stages on only 150 km in for example Tour de France, Tom Boonen( 82 flat, 73 hill, 77 sprint, 76 acc) will crush Andrea Guardini( 71 flat, 61 hill, 79 sprint, 83 acc)! That's stupid on such a flat and short stage( If the stage had been 220km with some hills it would have been okay, cause then Guardini would have been dropped, but when he makes it to the sprint, he should crush Boonen anyway, even if he has much less power left)! When the lead-out begins Guardini loses all his power and is almost standing still in the sprint compared to Boonen which comes in to the final 3km with full power. Even if Guardini had 85 sprint and 85 acc, it would not helped. It's very unrealistic!
Someone who feels the same? |
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| riptorian |
Posted on 02-05-2011 16:30
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Ellingsrud - It is the same deal with Theo Bos a few years back. He was a very fast sprinter but he never made it to the line. If you saw Tour of Turkey Guardini got dropped on speed bumps as someone put it. So the fact that he got not enough stamina and resistance to properly finish a Tour de France stage is very realistic. What I might find a bit unrealistic is that he actually manage to sprint and does not get dropped. |
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| Ellingsrud |
Posted on 02-05-2011 17:00
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My point is that when he first makes it to the sprint, the sprint and acc skill is what should count and not how much power he has left, thats just a minor part of the sprint. I agree that it should be easier to drop him, but when he dont get dropped he should crush almost everyone - in PCM he could lose against someone with 65 in sprint and acc because they have more power left! |
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| riptorian |
Posted on 02-05-2011 17:13
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Imo if you have not much power left in your legs you cannot sprint optimally. A bad sprinter could outsprint cavendish if cavendish have been riding 200 km before reaching the line and the bad sprinter just waited there. To exaggerate it. So I think it is fine and is working as intended. If he barely got any red bar left, he should not be able to sprint to his best skill. Otherwise you negate the whole factor of stamina and resistance. |
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| lennybernstein |
Posted on 02-05-2011 20:08
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Domestique
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riptorian wrote:
I would also love to see them work more on the management side of the game. PCM2010 was more about the graphics and lets face it. The game has been graphic wise fine since 2008 and graphics with shallow gameplay will not keep me interested for long.
I would love to see them revamp the training section. The whole star thing seems stupid. I would rather have something so when you ie. train mountains, you lose TT and flat abilities. In case of stage races rider, the higher potential they have the less they lose and the more they gain or something. I am not a big fan of the whole "cap" of how much a rider can have in stats. Like some can only have 75 out of 85. Might just be me.
The whole scouting section could also need a revamp, same with the finance and goals section, but atleast they are working on the goal section with extra sponsors and jerseys, which is a very nice improvement
Yes, agree on all of this.
Two other things I would like to see:
- Director Sportifs: I'd like to be able to appoint Director Sportifs who take charge of the team in races that I choose not to play in 3D. They would have different abilities - the better they are, the better decisions they make 'in-game' in terms of directing the riders. The DS would report back to you on the team during a tour and tell you how each rider has been getting on etc
- 'Holiday mode'. I'd like to be able to go on holiday. During this time, the game runs as normal until I return. This would allow me to avoid clicking through every day from, say, October to December, when there is nothing to do and you just have tediously click through every day. There is a similar function in the Football Manager series |
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| riptorian |
Posted on 02-05-2011 20:11
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About the holiday. You can scroll over to December 31st and then click on that date and then it asks if you want to simulate to this date with or without interruptions. Either should work fine Then just afk for 2 min. Hope this helps. |
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| lennybernstein |
Posted on 02-05-2011 20:13
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Domestique
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riptorian wrote:
About the holiday. You can scroll over to December 31st and then click on that date and then it asks if you want to simulate to this date with or without interruptions. Either should work fine Then just afk for 2 min. Hope this helps.
Brilliant, thanks riptorian! That will be a big help! |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 03-05-2011 00:24
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@riptorian
Sprint is basically about who has more power in the end, both in real life as well in the game, so very realistic. Of course, in the end of a TdF stage, most sprinters still got plenty of energy left, but get a tougher stage and you'll see it's quite like that.
Btw, in a short flat TdF stage, Boonen should indeed sprint better because as he has 82 of flat while Guardini has 71, Guardini will hurt much more with the very fast speed in the last 15 kms while Boonen not, which means Guardini gets to the sprint much more tired than the other.
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| riptorian |
Posted on 03-05-2011 11:54
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lluuiiggii wrote:
@riptorian
Sprint is basically about who has more power in the end, both in real life as well in the game, so very realistic.
Which was exactly my point. |
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| Torsi |
Posted on 15-05-2011 21:36
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I could'nt be more agree with Ellingsrud. It is obvious that sprinters should win the sprint if they are in the peleton at the end. When you play for a while it comes young riders that suck in flat, and are amazing in sprint, but it doesn't matter because flat is wat too important!! YOU REALLY HAVE TO IMPROVE THIS IN PCM 2011!!!!! |
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