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Le Tour de France 2015 | Stage 5 - Arras/Amiens
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| Strydz |
Posted on 08-07-2015 06:57
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
This does not seem so much difficult to drop likes of Greipel and Cavendish i would say, so i see those two together with Degenkolb and Sagan as the favourites. Lets see if Kristoff can bounce back from being mediocre and unlucky in first stages. 
Agree with you %100! This will be a bunch sprint unless there are crashes, the "hills" won't stop the sprinters from being in the finish
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-07-2015 07:06
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Or the echelons, dont know how strong the wind can be today.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 08-07-2015 07:07
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Or the echelons, dont know how strong the wind can be today.
Weather reports suggest a headwind for most of the race so echelons look unlikely
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-07-2015 07:08
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Strydz wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Or the echelons, dont know how strong the wind can be today.
Weather reports suggest a headwind for most of the race so echelons look unlikely
Ah, so tough day in the saddle for those at the front.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 08-07-2015 07:46
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Strydz wrote:
Tafiolmo wrote:
Pinot has the talent but he doesn't have the mentality to win a big tour, something that seems to affect every French rider. They're good at exploding onto the scene and then get hyped up and then always fail to deliver. Also the pressure to win the Tour is huge and for that reason they're probably better off trying to win a Vuelta or Giro.
It's not the riders fault that they are hyped up, it's the French media/public that are desperate for Tour contender so every French talent is built up into something they are not. Rolland is a good example as to me he never looked like a true GT contender but more of a lower half top 10 rider and stage winner but he was overhyped and is now seen as a disappointment but to me he is performing to the capacities of his talents. Pinot is more talented than Rolland but has still been hyped up to much which must be a huge pressure on a young rider, he spat the dummy yesterday but that is not uncommen for young riders so hopefully he can learn from this Tour expericence and work on moving past the issues he has, I don't think calling him mentally weak as some have is right wording to use, he is emotional and also honest when asked about why he falls short but that's not mental weakness it's just traits of his personality, he will improve in this as he matures and hopefully people can lay off him a little and let him do this. I think being in a diffrerent environment than a French team like FDJ might be a good idea
I think Giant have done this perfectly with Barguil, personally I don't think he will be a top GC contender (happy to be wrong  ) but he is a pretty good talent, however Giant haven't given him outright GT leadership and not taking him to the tour has kept him out of the spotlight.
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 08-07-2015 10:19
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Stage 5 Preview https://www.theroa...5-preview/
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 08-07-2015 12:35
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Bouhanni crashes and abandons. |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-07-2015 12:38
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 08-07-2015 12:43
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Echelons already.
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| Dusen |
Posted on 08-07-2015 13:52
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Haha ofc. Dan Martin have been down 
That guy simple can't hold his ass on the bike  |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:06
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French teams are having a horrible tour 
Coquard crashed again, looks like he has back problems
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:06
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Mass crash. Coquard among the victims.
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| emre99 |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:10
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:11
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Strydz wrote:
Tafiolmo wrote:
Pinot has the talent but he doesn't have the mentality to win a big tour, something that seems to affect every French rider. They're good at exploding onto the scene and then get hyped up and then always fail to deliver. Also the pressure to win the Tour is huge and for that reason they're probably better off trying to win a Vuelta or Giro.
It's not the riders fault that they are hyped up, it's the French media/public that are desperate for Tour contender so every French talent is built up into something they are not. Rolland is a good example as to me he never looked like a true GT contender but more of a lower half top 10 rider and stage winner but he was overhyped and is now seen as a disappointment but to me he is performing to the capacities of his talents. Pinot is more talented than Rolland but has still been hyped up to much which must be a huge pressure on a young rider, he spat the dummy yesterday but that is not uncommen for young riders so hopefully he can learn from this Tour expericence and work on moving past the issues he has, I don't think calling him mentally weak as some have is right wording to use, he is emotional and also honest when asked about why he falls short but that's not mental weakness it's just traits of his personality, he will improve in this as he matures and hopefully people can lay off him a little and let him do this. I think being in a diffrerent environment than a French team like FDJ might be a good idea
I agree that there is a certain type of hype surrounding french GC-riders in the Tour, and that might very well play a part. I don't think anyone realisticly sees Pinot as a favourite for the Tour de France. Yes, he did get a 3rd place last year, but that was without Contador and Froome (and Andy Schleck, for that matter).
I remember some cycling commentator saying, after a young french rider tested positive for 21 illegal substances in his blood at once, that it was an exampleof how desperate the french were to get a new top GC-rider. Bit of banter, sure, but perhaps not too far from it either.
Still, even if he has a temper, he needs to keep it cool when misfortune strikes. Perhaps, as you say, he should move away from France in more ways than one. Switching teams, and maybe switching focus towards the Giro or Vuelta, which are more obtainable goals.
Edited by cactus-jack on 08-07-2015 14:12
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:14
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wogsrus wrote:
Bouhanni crashes and abandons.
did I say moment..
I was almost sure he will abandon anyway,.after he took down Nibali at stage 2.
he should have just focusing for Vuelta or what ever after that terrible national crash . was it Cofidis who was still pushing him into that race..they have nice history for terrible decisions. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:16
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But what be French riders solution?..seems like french talent and french teams will not match..
How long has it been..20 years and same result..with any talent |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:21
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seems like Greipel has this TdF fastest spinning legs..first time. |
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| lolokeke |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:30
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Just joined now, are there already echelons or a crash or something. The peleton looks small |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:33
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lolokeke wrote:
Just joined now, are there already echelons or a crash or something. The peleton looks small
lots small crashes and rider not being able to come back
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 08-07-2015 14:36
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