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| Dippofix |
Posted on 06-05-2015 10:59
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Ollfardh wrote:
It might be ok of they take Qatar/Oman and Omloop in as well, so there's no 2 month gap.
They want to make the calendar smaller, not bigger though.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 06-05-2015 12:13
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jandal7 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
As much as the TDU is a good event it doesn't fit into the WT calendar at all. If it dropped to .HC or .1 level i think it coud still do very well as a race providing another early season option as well as being able to invite actual domestc teams to race. Losing WT status wouldn't be easy but there's no reason why it would have to make it any worse of a race, especially if Cadel keeps his event close by and popular.
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I wish that I could agree, if it loses it's WT status I bet within a couple of years the event would be dead.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 06-05-2015 12:13
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But if they drop TDU, all that makes it World Tour instead of Europe Tour are two Canadian classics no one gives a shit about.
In my opinion, they should expand, add San Luis, Gabon, one of those desert races, Japan Cup or some other Asian race, California or USAPCC. Add new point categories so the important races keep their status, but if they cut TDU, their globalisation policy has failed.
Edited by Ollfardh on 06-05-2015 12:15
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 06-05-2015 21:26
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I guess I can still cheer for him. 
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 06-05-2015 21:29
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Ollfardh wrote:
But if they drop TDU, all that makes it World Tour instead of Europe Tour are two Canadian classics no one gives a shit about.
In my opinion, they should expand, add San Luis, Gabon, one of those desert races, Japan Cup or some other Asian race, California or USAPCC. Add new point categories so the important races keep their status, but if they cut TDU, their globalisation policy has failed.
I don't think it's a good idea to add more crap races around the globe for the specific reason of being diverse, and end up with a bunch of Tour of Beijing situations. It's a big reason why everyone hated McQuaid.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 06-05-2015 21:31
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Strydz wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
As much as the TDU is a good event it doesn't fit into the WT calendar at all. If it dropped to .HC or .1 level i think it coud still do very well as a race providing another early season option as well as being able to invite actual domestc teams to race. Losing WT status wouldn't be easy but there's no reason why it would have to make it any worse of a race, especially if Cadel keeps his event close by and popular.
+1
I wish that I could agree, if it loses it's WT status I bet within a couple of years the event would be dead.
Agree there too, to expand my opinion, I think it would be great as a .HC race AS WELL but I think adding a Middle East race, Omloop, an asian and an american (Gabon maybe) would be better, but as bbl said, make sure they are going to be successful.
Edited by jandal7 on 06-05-2015 22:05
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| Movistar |
Posted on 07-05-2015 01:11
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jandal7 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
As much as the TDU is a good event it doesn't fit into the WT calendar at all. If it dropped to .HC or .1 level i think it coud still do very well as a race providing another early season option as well as being able to invite actual domestc teams to race. Losing WT status wouldn't be easy but there's no reason why it would have to make it any worse of a race, especially if Cadel keeps his event close by and popular.
+1
I wish that I could agree, if it loses it's WT status I bet within a couple of years the event would be dead.
Agree there too, to expand my opinion, I think it would be great as a .HC race AS WELL but I think adding a Middle East race, Omloop, an asian and an american (Gabon maybe) would be better, but as bbl said, make sure they are going to be successful.
Well they have to add Strade Bianche before anything else. No idea why no one has mentioned that in their expansion races. |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 07-05-2015 05:30
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Movistar wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
As much as the TDU is a good event it doesn't fit into the WT calendar at all. If it dropped to .HC or .1 level i think it coud still do very well as a race providing another early season option as well as being able to invite actual domestc teams to race. Losing WT status wouldn't be easy but there's no reason why it would have to make it any worse of a race, especially if Cadel keeps his event close by and popular.
+1
I wish that I could agree, if it loses it's WT status I bet within a couple of years the event would be dead.
Agree there too, to expand my opinion, I think it would be great as a .HC race AS WELL but I think adding a Middle East race, Omloop, an asian and an american (Gabon maybe) would be better, but as bbl said, make sure they are going to be successful.
Well they have to add Strade Bianche before anything else. No idea why no one has mentioned that in their expansion races.
 I think I complain so much about it not being wt irl I forget to do it online. Ofc it should be.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 07-05-2015 11:24
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Greg Van Avermaet is cleared from any wrongdoing in the Ozon case. |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 07-05-2015 13:08
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Huge news with GVA. Happy for him. |
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| Malkael |
Posted on 07-05-2015 16:23
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Two more years of sponsorship and certainty secured for the team and a rather good cause, 'nuff said.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 07-05-2015 18:19
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Great news indeed  |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 07-05-2015 18:59
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Do you have the balls to ride in the City......
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 07-05-2015 23:33
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Malkael wrote:
Two more years of sponsorship and certainty secured for the team and a rather good cause, 'nuff said.
Fantastic news!
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
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| Shonak |
Posted on 08-05-2015 08:01
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Jeez, really no need for that.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 08-05-2015 08:37
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
But if they drop TDU, all that makes it World Tour instead of Europe Tour are two Canadian classics no one gives a shit about.
In my opinion, they should expand, add San Luis, Gabon, one of those desert races, Japan Cup or some other Asian race, California or USAPCC. Add new point categories so the important races keep their status, but if they cut TDU, their globalisation policy has failed.
I don't think it's a good idea to add more crap races around the globe for the specific reason of being diverse, and end up with a bunch of Tour of Beijing situations. It's a big reason why everyone hated McQuaid.
I agree. And also, if you add California for example, all those smaller American teams couldn't compete in it anymore.
Gabon and San Luis are just not organised well enough to be WT. Japan Cup is... just not big enough by far
Strade Bianchi could be a nice option, though. Doesn't fit in everyone's "globalisation" plan but I don't really care too much about that. Riders travel enough by plane as it is, don't want to send them all around the globe 5 times in 1 season |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 08-05-2015 09:16
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Strade is perfect as it is. No need to add WT points and race radios to it, it'll only dumb down that exceptional race.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 08-05-2015 09:17
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Shonak wrote:
Strade is perfect as it is. No need to add WT points and race radios to it, it'll only dumb down that exceptional race.
That's a valid point.
Actually, abolish all WT races. Those points and race radios make for so boring races constantly
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| Shonak |
Posted on 08-05-2015 09:26
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Thing is, Strade really doesn't need WT status. When you look at the list of winners, the starting lineup and the general racing, you see how much it is admired for its beauty and uniqueness and how much people want to win it. Down Under, Catalunya, Romandie or the Canadian Classics & Plouay need WT status to attract a solid field. Strade does not.
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| clamel |
Posted on 08-05-2015 11:18
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WT Status is important to get the WT teams to such a race. They are commited to race in WT races, not in normal HC races. In all it's the money that rules (as in everything else), and yes Strade is a huge race and don't need WT status.
It's already World Class in everyones mind.
Cycling got these official classes, and then the "moral" ones. Spring Classics, Monuments and so. Not easy for UCI to make it all profitable for all teams.
Amgen Tour of California (as US Pro) are big, perhaps bigger than Quebec and Montreal, but needs the US based Cont- teams. So it's hard to upgrade those to WT.
I forgot that not only money, but politics rules UCI's decisions as well
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