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Margh Norway's Stages
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:27
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Just checked about the post-race crashes of races and am not able to fix it, now.
The following uploads are affected:
 Deutsche Meisterschaft (Road Race)
Deutsche Meisterschaft (Time Trial)
 Irish Championships (Road Race)
As far as I can see the results are saved correctly and simulating works without any problems, but game crashes after the stage when the podium ceremony should be shown in 3D-race.
Reason for the crashes might be linked to the fact that I created these stages using PCM13th (just in the early state) and PCM14th editor.
Reconverting and changes to the podium didn't change the outcome, ideas welcome.
Download: Delta Road Race
Converted stage with minor changes (not routewise).
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| clamel |
Posted on 13-08-2014 18:37
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Is it possible for you to have a crack in making this years Arctic Race of Norway. It´s looks very nice with the first stage ending all the way north at Nordkap.
The only variant today is via a cdx file and then picking up stages from Tour of Norway instead. That´s the arctic variant for 2013.
I will try out to to ask about what happens to in-game sprints and mountain points when using cdx-file.
Picking a race as Arctic one can not see any interim sprint result or mountain and I wonder what point system are in rule when using different stages from other stage races.
I fear that using a cdx-files should be only 1-day races where there is no issue with bonus pts, mountain pts sprints and similar.
Please explain if you got the time about this subject, since I can´t find anything in the forum. |
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 13-08-2014 21:39
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Sorry, clamel. Have no ambition to create the Arctic Race.
It's a tough one to make, because there exists no .dem-files for this Region and the rugged coastlines and pretty long stages are doing further. For me this would be a much to time consuming work right now, if I want to do the stages the "right way".
Actually I'm back into stage-making again and will be able to release one (or more) of the following 2014 season races the coming weekend...
 Trofeo Alcide Degasperi
GP Capodarco - Comunità di Capodarco
 Tour of Nanjing
While I paused the work on other races in creation process, but will hopefully find motivation somewhat later. All suffer the crash-bug at podium ceremony, caused by me using PCM13th and PCM14th editor during the creation process. I can use early saves to fix them, but the fact that some hours work was in vain demotivated.
Affected 2014 stages:
 Tour de Suisse, stage 9
Garmin Velothon Berlin
 Canadian Championships (RR + TT)
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| clamel |
Posted on 13-08-2014 23:22
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Could you then perhaps explain to a newbie in this stage making this fact.
Considering cdx-files.
They direct a certain race to a stage that actually are another race. So far I understand.
Now if it´s a 1-day race it´s ok, but if you (as in Arctic) is a tour I ran into problems with the sprint pts/mtn pts/bonus seconds.
My question is that if I pick stages from different other races will I then not get different "formula" of point systems.
In my case I would like to control how many points and seconds a race should have.
Races do have different such things I think, but then this might made inside the stage editor.
Can you give me a hint on how to handle this ???
Edited by clamel on 13-08-2014 23:23
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 13-08-2014 23:34
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In the stage editor you are only able to make the basic settings like the category of a climb. Points awarded for different climbs and intermediate/finish Sprints are ruled in the different classification.xml's afaik. So I guess the stuff you want to regulate can be set in STA_race within the used DB, but it's better to ask one of the skilled DB-makers.
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| clamel |
Posted on 14-08-2014 07:20
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Thanks for the answer.
I have been looking in the DBs, and not really find anything (at least not via Lachis editor)
I was thinking that the code for these pts was in the cds-file but I can´t open that one up with let say Notepad++.
I go on investigating ....
Did I mentioned that you are doing a great job with all those cool and beautiful stages. Do go on mate.
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| clamel |
Posted on 14-08-2014 13:35
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I can now say that these sprints and mountain points are NOT in the DB what I understant but in some way in the stage itself.
That´s the part where the stage is created by the Stage editor.
Using a cdx-file and pointing to two different stages as a first stage I got two totally different setup of sprint and mountain point stages.
I think I also found out that using a 2013 stage for PCM2013 will totally wreck the sprints and mountain jerseys.
The issue where a conversion from PCM13 stages to PCM14 stages are very important indeed. 1-day races works fine, but anytime you get a tour it will be different.
If you or anyone know much better please correct me and guide me to how these point systems are setup.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 14-08-2014 13:37
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I thought there were .xml files with that information in it tied to each race. I can't remember if it's in the stage or race table in the DB.
EDIT: its Gene_sz_classification_xml in the sta_race table in lachi's editor. You just need to find those xml files on your computer and then they are al editable in notepad
Edited by sammyt93 on 14-08-2014 13:41
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 14-08-2014 15:06
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As sammy said: sprint and KOM-points, as well as time bonuses, are linked to the xml-file choosen in STA_race --> gene_sz_classification (see pic below)
The different xml-files can be found in PCM --> XML --> Classifications
They seem to be easy editable (e.g. via windows notepad or editor) and pretty much self-explaining... (snapshots within spoiler)
Edited by Margh Norway on 14-08-2014 15:19
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| clamel |
Posted on 14-08-2014 23:33
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Thanks a million, they have been driving mad.
I knew they had to be somewhere somehow.
I will get back with more stupid questions on this and the connections and results of using cdx-files.
My test have shown some strange differences when it comes to in-race sprints and mountain pts.
Now I can put these xml-files into the test. |
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 15-08-2014 13:45
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GP Capodarco - Comunità di Capodarco (1.2 Europe Tour)
Editor and ingame screens:
Download: GP Capodarco - Comunità di Capodarco
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 15-08-2014 13:57
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Nice screens  |
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 16-08-2014 10:39
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Thanks, sutty!
Trofeo Alcide Degasperi (1.2 Europe Tour)
Download: Trofeo Alcide Degasperi
Most of the stages roads are re-used from former editions. Trofeo Alcide Degasperi 2012 and 2013 are available in PCM13th stage database section and can be used as variants.
Edited by Margh Norway on 20-08-2014 06:04
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 17-08-2014 10:57
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Tour of Nanjing (1.2 Asia Tour)
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| lamomet |
Posted on 18-08-2014 20:26
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Margh Norway wrote:
Thanks, sutty!
Trofeo Alcide Degasperi (1.2 Europe Tour)
Most of the stages roads are re-used from former editions. Trofeo Alcide Degasperi 2012 and 2013 are available in PCM13th stage database section and can be used as variants.
In rar archive is only a cds file and not zces file. Could you reupload Trofeo Alcide Degasperi race, please? |
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| clamel |
Posted on 18-08-2014 21:12
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Now Sir,
that was a pleasant addition. Thank you
I think I saw this race (Nanjing) actually is covered by those pesky cdx-files (in this case Winston-Salem Classic actually)
I have been cleaning out that race (Winston-Salem) from yet another MISSING created race
The Philadelphia Cycling Classic, a nice city race along the river.
Perhaps sometime you might add this to your fine collection of races in the States. |
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 19-08-2014 11:11
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lamomet wrote:...
In rar archive is only a cds file and not zces file. Could you reupload Trofeo Alcide Degasperi race, please?
Thanks for the hint, I'll try to get it fixed, soon.
As long as it takes you can use the mediafire upload right here:
Download: Trofeo Alcide Degasperi 2014
clamel wrote:
Now Sir,
that was a pleasant addition. Thank you
I think I saw this race (Nanjing) actually is covered by those pesky cdx-files (in this case Winston-Salem Classic actually)
I have been cleaning out that race (Winston-Salem) from yet another MISSING created race
The Philadelphia Cycling Classic, a nice city race along the river.
Perhaps sometime you might add this to your fine collection of races in the States.
Thanks for the kind words. I took a look at the Philadelphia Cycling Classic and it seems short and interesting enough to give it a shot. Might get it done until the week ends.
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 23-08-2014 10:54
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 The Philadelphia Cycling Classic (1.1 America Tour)
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Download: The Philadelphia Cycling Classic
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 23-08-2014 14:11
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Really liking the look of the little rise to the finish line |
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| clamel |
Posted on 23-08-2014 18:52
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I guess one day is already today 
That was a nice surprise. The Philly Classic !!!
Many thanks, now another cdx-file can be thrown out. |
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