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Posted on 25-11-2024 12:47
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 04-09-2013 23:49
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Dippofix wrote:
I knew that Ireland were only bringing 4, but i thought that was due to the lack of quality.
Dan Martin, Nicolas Roche and Phil Deignan are all going and acccording to stickybottle.com, Ronan McLaughlin has the best chances to get the fourth spot.
Sam Bennet could get it. Or Matthew Brammier.
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Posted on 04-09-2013 23:54
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Colombia can easily fill 9 riders I would think
Quintana
Betancur
Henao
Uran
Duarte
Azevedo
Atapuma
Duque?
Chaves?
They ill actually need to decide the final spots.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 05-09-2013 00:29
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Colombia can easily fill 9 riders I would think
Quintana
Betancur
Henao
Uran
Duarte
Azevedo
Atapuma
Duque?
Chaves?
They ill actually need to decide the final spots.
If you are making a list of strong Colombians, Arredondo would probably be 5th or 6th on that list.
Also Jose Serpa, Chalapud.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 05-09-2013 06:59
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Pre-selection for Czech Republic:
TT:Jan Bárta, Jakub Novák.
RR: Roman Kreuziger, Jan Bárta, Leopold König, Zdeněk Štybar, František Raboň, Jakub Novák, Stanislav Kozubek, Martin Hunal, Martin Hačecký, Tomáš Bucháček.
So three will go out for the RR.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 05-09-2013 07:00
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 05-09-2013 09:35
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RR (12 riders/Pre-selection): Aru, Giampolo Caruso, Felline, Nibali, Nocentini, Paolini, Pellizotti, Ponzi, Pozzato, Santaromita, Ulissi, Visconti.
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| Dippofix |
Posted on 05-09-2013 10:39
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Dippofix wrote:
I knew that Ireland were only bringing 4, but i thought that was due to the lack of quality.
Dan Martin, Nicolas Roche and Phil Deignan are all going and acccording to stickybottle.com, Ronan McLaughlin has the best chances to get the fourth spot.
Sam Bennet could get it. Or Matthew Brammier.
I don't think either of them would get over the hills well enough. Sean Downey might be a possibility though.
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| johnnyjur |
Posted on 05-09-2013 10:42
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Norway's selection: Nordhaug, Hushovd, Boasson Hagen
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 05-09-2013 10:42
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Dippofix wrote:
Why do they not just base it on something like the CQ-Ranking or something similar?
Because that would make sense - and that's a no-go in UCI...
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Posted on 05-09-2013 10:44
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Atlantius wrote:
Dippofix wrote:
Why do they not just base it on something like the CQ-Ranking or something similar?
Because that would make sense - and that's a no-go in UCI...
Oh yes, i forgot their strict no-sense policy. Maybe when McQuaid is out that'l Change.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 05-09-2013 11:42
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Alakagom wrote:
Italy
RR (12 riders/Pre-selection): Aru, Giampolo Caruso, Felline, Nibali, Nocentini, Paolini, Pellizotti, Ponzi, Pozzato, Santaromita, Ulissi, Visconti.
Basso, Capecchi and Pozzovivo (for tt  ) clearly want in aswell
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| black_alecs_x |
Posted on 05-09-2013 11:58
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Romania:
Andrei Nechita (only RR i think ) |
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Posted on 05-09-2013 12:02
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valverde321 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Colombia can easily fill 9 riders I would think
Quintana
Betancur
Henao
Uran
Duarte
Azevedo
Atapuma
Duque?
Chaves?
They ill actually need to decide the final spots.
If you are making a list of strong Colombians, Arredondo would probably be 5th or 6th on that list.
Also Jose Serpa, Chalapud.
And Chaves's been injured this season, so he wouldn't be much of a value for the race. |
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| ShortsNL |
Posted on 05-09-2013 12:35
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I was comparing the top 54 nations according to the CQ ranking to the 54 nations participating in the WC and I''ve got some fun facts for you:
First of all, there are 5 nations participating in the WC that would not participate if the CQ Nation ranking would be used. Those are: Equador, Finland, Moldova, Romania, Tunisia.
Due to this, the following nations in the CQ top 54 have been excluded in favour of the above nations: Japan, Uzbekistan, China, Ethiopia, South Korea,
When comparing the two rankings, there are several nations severely underrated and overrated on the UCI ranking.
Most overrated are Morocco, Algeria, Venezuela, Mexico, Iran and Costa Rica
Most underrated are Norway, Russia, Portugal, Sweden, Belarus and South Africa.
Finally, this leads to a deviation in terms of riders that a nation may bring. The nations that are favoured the most by the UCI are: Venezuela +4, Ukraine +3, Iran +3, Morocco +3, Austria +3, Poland +3.
The nations that are being negatively discriminated the most by the UCI are: Norway -4, Denmark -3, Germany -3, Portugal -3, Russia -3.
All in all the nations impacted most negatively by the UCI ranking are the Scandinavian and East Asian countries, with a positive bias towards South American and Norh African/Middle Eastern countries. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 05-09-2013 12:56
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Poland getting 9 is kind of ridiculous if you see for example Belgium (7) and Germany (6) getting less..
Edit: nice facts shortsNL but you got one mistake: China is listed there together with Hong Kong
Edited by Bikex on 05-09-2013 12:57
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 05-09-2013 12:57
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I dont know about what discrimination are you talking about, or rather i would see giving Belgium 9 riders and Iran 1 rider as discrimination.
Only "fair" system would be every country that wants to take place being given same number of spots. Because cycling is team sport and when you have one man team against 9 men team, it is anything but not fair, at least not for WC spirit...
This is like USA having six people on the floor for the basketball WC and Angola only starting with two, because they suck, compared to USA.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 05-09-2013 12:58
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| ShortsNL |
Posted on 05-09-2013 13:12
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Bikex wrote:
Poland getting 9 is kind of ridiculous if you see for example Belgium (7) and Germany (6) getting less..
Edit: nice facts shortsNL but you got one mistake: China is listed there together with Hong Kong
I was not sure how to interpret that one.
The UCI list says "Hong Kong, China" as one nation, meaning it could either be a mixed team of riders from both the region of Hong Kong and China, or just riders from Hong Kong, with 'China' added because technically Hong Kong is a specially administered region.
Edit: Avin, my comparison was of the rankings primarily and not really the system in which the rankings are used. One could indeed argue that discrimination based on country performance is unwanted. However, since the UCI now uses a system that supposedly rewards country performance, one has to look at how performance is ranked. The UCI is arguably biased when ranking performance, judging by the CQ ranking.
Edited by ShortsNL on 05-09-2013 13:17
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Posted on 05-09-2013 13:39
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Of course giving every Country that want's to take part the same amount of riders is a good idea, but it wouldn't work. If say 50 Nations would wan't to take part, everyone would have a Team of 2-3 riders, which would mean a lot of the worlds best riders would have to miss out, just because there from a Nation that's too strong. Plus a race with those sort of Teams woul'd be really weird for tactics and that sort of stuff.
Edit: Yay, post No. 100
Edited by Dippofix on 05-09-2013 13:40
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| Selwink |
Posted on 05-09-2013 14:00
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Croatia
RR: Kiserlovski, Kvasina, Durasek
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Luxembourg
RR: Jungels
ITT: Jungels
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 05-09-2013 14:13
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I dont know about what discrimination are you talking about, or rather i would see giving Belgium 9 riders and Iran 1 rider as discrimination.
Only "fair" system would be every country that wants to take place being given same number of spots. Because cycling is team sport and when you have one man team against 9 men team, it is anything but not fair, at least not for WC spirit...
This is like USA having six people on the floor for the basketball WC and Angola only starting with two, because they suck, compared to USA.
Basketball is a tournament style thing. Totally different. If you give everybody 9 you have like 1000 riders.
And other countries like Germany getting the same amount when they have way more cyclists in ludicrous.
Edited by baseballlover312 on 05-09-2013 14:14
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 05-09-2013 17:29
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9 out of those (13) will represent France : Bardet Barguil Chavanel Coppel Gallopin Gautier Kadri Moinard Pinot Riblon Roux Vichot Voeckler
looks quite good IMO, but nobody to bring the rainbow jersey home.
Chavanel and Roy have been picked for the ITT. Couldn't be any more logical. |
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