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Nils Erik's stages
nils erik
Stage 9 (guessing) Last flat stage before the mountains.

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Stage 10: First mountain stage as well as the longest stage in the tour; rated as hilly, but I will fix that into mountain before i release the full db.

i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/janniboy/f21fc4bf-ed87-42d8-be01-4f4c2d6f4453_zpsbf3ea642.jpg

@Sutty: Thanks!
Edited by nils erik on 23-08-2013 21:39
 
sutty68
Looks like a steep finish at Ballon d'Alsace Frown
 
lluuiiggii
Well, even if some of the stages are pretty much guessing, it looks like we'll have a pretty solid foundation for creating the 2014 Tour (that is, creating what is different). Not to mention the climbs, etc, which could be re-used if the stage is not exactly like that but includes several parts of the route.

Besides, guessing is what the community has to do for several stages, specially the flat ones Wink Keep up the good work Smile
 
nils erik
Stage 11:

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Second of the alps stage.
 
nils erik
Stage 12:

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Stage 13:

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Both stage 12 and 13 is rumoured in mountain stages (Chamorusse?) but I don't think the Tour will have so many important stages in the Alps, with mountain finish in stage 10 and 14 and Colombiere on 11, so I made these a bit easier.

Now 15 will be rest, before three more mountain stages on 16-18. The climbers will definitely get their chances in this Tour, even if 12 and 13 are easier. 5 stages originally rated as mountain, as well as the Ballon D'Alsace who is hilly until I fix it. Probably 4 mountain finishes.
 
nils erik
Stage 14. Queen stage?

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sutty68
Looks a nice stage for the climbers Wink
 
nils erik
Stage 15:

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Only one rest stage between the Alps and the Pyrenees 2014. I think the stage will look very much like this IRL. The start and finish place is highly rumoured, and the way between them is pretty long. This is the fastest roads between the cities and still is more than 200 kilometres.
Edited by nils erik on 31-08-2013 19:52
 
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lluuiiggii
The Alps look really nice. Curious to see the Pyrenees Smile

ps.:
nils erik wrote:
Only one rest stage between the Alps and the Pyrenees this year.

We're still in 2013 Pfft
 
nils erik
Stage 16:

i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/janniboy/1ab7a310-f77b-4e2a-a6e5-924b61f1ee01_zps58a43f6d.jpg

Into the pyrenees, with a shorter and less important before the much harder 17 and 18. Over Mente and Portillon. I have to say, if the rumours for stage 17 turns out right, we will definitely have something to look forward to.

@Luigi: Thanks! Fixed now.
 
nils erik
Stage 17:

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This could be very interesting. Peyresourde, Aspin, Tourmalet, Borderes, Soulor, Spandelles and Hautacam in 195 kilometres. It is possible that they keep away from Borderes, Soulor and Spandelles though, but this is the rumours.
 
Stylus
Seems really hard!
 
nils erik
Tour de France 2014, stage 18:

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Crossing Aubisque, Tourmalet, Aspin before the final climb up Pla D'Adet

Stage 19:

i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/janniboy/cae6bbd9-7add-4568-b5ae-af4164e30553_zps987c5b32.jpg

Stage 20:

i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/janniboy/eb5bb717-8524-4805-9507-23c7d5a36d3a_zps8dfd99ad.jpg

Full download: https://www.mediaf...m45qui0qq7

This is without graphics, except from stage 1 and parts of stage 3. I don't really have the time nor the motivation to make the graphics when I can't use it myself. I will send the zcts files tomorrow, if anyone else wants to finish the graphics. Still I think it can be pretty realistic, and be a good variant until the real route will be announced.
 
nils erik
I have started a WC variant project, as I think there are far too few wc variants as it is now. Still, I have made about 350 profiles from Europe, and will add some from other continents as well (I will not make all these). Here are some views in a test pack; I have chosen to start with not so known countries, but will surely make some races from the biggest nations later. Every race are named right.

Ruse (Bulgaria)
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Spoiler
i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/janniboy/PCM0049_zpsb67ab6d2.png


Rijeka (Slovenia)
i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/janniboy/7904f9ca-cfa3-4c02-9128-f5d1ec7db6a8_zpsfe4c753b.jpg
Spoiler
One of the hardest, but also the most decorated of my stages ever.
i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/janniboy/PCM0047_zps0591cdbd.png
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Podgorica (Montenegro)
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Spoiler
Forot to screen:
1. Alberto Contador
2. Vincenzo Nibali +11
3. Sergio Henao +11
4. Joaquin Rodriguez +11
5. Philippe Gilbert +11
6. Cadel Evans +11
7. Edvald Boasson Hagen +11
8. Carlos Betancur +11
9. Chris Horner +11
10. Thor Hushovd +11


Walbrzych (Poland)
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Spoiler
i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/janniboy/PCM0051_zpsd21bdc4f.png


Download test pack: https://www.mediaf...dtj5fvtu55

Edit: Note that the results of WC in classic mode always (for me) give some strange results.
Edited by nils erik on 14-09-2013 21:45
 
Maddrengen
I think you should make ITT too. I funnier when the TT and RR are from the same country Smile
i.imgur.com/vR8EVAA.png
 
nejc
Rijeka is in Croatia and not Slovenia Smile
 
lluuiiggii
Too few? I count about 15~20 WC variants Pfft Well, the places you're choosing are interesting. But I agree with Maddrengen, with a TT it's even better Wink

Btw, that's a whole of houses in the Rijeka WC. Looks cool Smile
 
nils erik
Thank you guys! I believe Rijeka is croatian in the db, just a mistake.
The reason I haven't made tt races so far is because, last year the rr and tt from the same location never hit the same year. I don't know if it is like that this year, but I don't consider it as important when rr Rijeka is in 2015 and tt is 2016 as an example. Also I believe the tt is about a similar route for most wcs, and therefore not as important as the rr.

@Luigi: Few compared to earlier games, which had about 150 I think.
 
lluuiiggii
nils erik wrote:
Thank you guys! I believe Rijeka is croatian in the db, just a mistake.
The reason I haven't made tt races so far is because, last year the rr and tt from the same location never hit the same year. I don't know if it is like that this year, but I don't consider it as important when rr Rijeka is in 2015 and tt is 2016 as an example. Also I believe the tt is about a similar route for most wcs, and therefore not as important as the rr.

Well, indeed the TT isn't as important as the RR (though there might be country bonus, but still slim difference between one TT and another). But concerning the 'random location', that is the reason why some DBs choose to set WCs at fixed years instead of making it random. It's bad because it's not random, but it's good because you make sure the RR/TT are in the same country and also make sure that country isn't repeated in a short time span and can guarantee some variety (for example not having 3 flat WCs in a row) Wink

nils erik wrote:
@Luigi: Few compared to earlier games, which had about 150 I think.

150? Shock To be honest I don't remember ever seeing even close to that number. Daily's DB, for example, had 15 in PCM12, 10 in PCM11, and I can't find other numbers but I'd guess similar ones. But either way, having 20 is more than good to me, I'll never play more than 5 season anyway let alone 150! Pfft Specially with the need to make WC years fixed as explained above, to me 20 is more than enough Wink
 
nils erik
Yeah, it was a time where the wc place were drawn randomly, so you did not have to play the same in the same order in the careers. I think that can be possible in some way or another on PCM 2013 as well, if not I had not made all these.

WC Variants PCM 2006: (I believe 2008 had more, but I haven't installed that one at my computer at the moment)

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Acapulco
Agrigento
Arnhem
Aspen
Aubenas
Austin
Barcelona
Bath
Benidorm
Berlin
Bogota
Bologna
Brugge
Budapest
Cagliari
Cape Town
Caracas
Charleroi
Coimbra
Cork
Doha
Garmisch
Gdansk
Goteborg
Granada
Graz
Groningen
Hamburg
Kobenhavn
Koper
Larisa
Lausanne
Linz¨
Lisboa
Liverpool
Lucca
Lugano
Luxembourg
Madrid
Melbourne
Messina
Montreal
Munchen
Nagoya
Neuchatel
Oslo
Oostende
Plouay
Praha
Sallanches
Salvador Baia
San Sebastian
Seattle
Shanghai
Sister Bay
Spa
Stuttgart
Valencia
Valkenburg
Vancouver
Varese
Vendee
Verona
Wellington
Yekaterinburg
Zandvoort
Zolder
 
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