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Planning a Season
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| RedDisciple |
Posted on 26-02-2013 15:42
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What is your opinion on my planned season ? 
Edited by RedDisciple on 26-02-2013 15:43
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-02-2013 15:53
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RedDisciple wrote:
What is your opinion on my planned season ?
Just took a look, and it isn't bad. Enough support for the leaders in the GT's etc.
What strikes me though is that your wasting race days with some of the guys.
I mean, just tell me, what is the use of Contador in Bayern Rundfahrt? You probably say getting in form for Dauphiné? You should've took another race, which isn't just flat. And preferable a race a little bit closer to Dauphiné. What you could have done is for example 2 one-day races close to Dauphiné.
And letting Kreuzinger go to Tour of Britain is even worse. There is no reason to let him go there. Instead, he could have done PN/TA or maybe one of the spanish WT races...
There are probably a few more of this ones..
But the schedule isn't bad in my opinion, just the race days of some of the leaders could've spent a lot better 
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 26-02-2013 15:56
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Jesleyh wrote:
And letting Kreuzinger go to Tour of Britain is even worse. There is no reason to let him go there. Instead, he could have done PN/TA or maybe one of the spanish WT races...
Tour of Britain is in the late season, so what has it got to do with PN/TA? Unless of course Kreuziger has a goal in the late season (after the ToB), such as the Worlds or Lombardia, but then in that case the ToB could be used as a form-builder
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| Lachi |
Posted on 26-02-2013 15:58
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A somewhat unrelated hint:
You can group your riders, see image below.
This makes it way easier to plan your season, because one click will assign all members of the group to a race.
In the example below I made 4 groups: G1 = Classics / G2 = Sprinter / G3 = GT with TTT / G4 = GT.
You could build teams of 8 riders who should stick together for the full season or you build smaller teams which you can combine. In my example I would combine G2 with G3 for the TdF 2012 for example.
Lachi attached the following image:
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-02-2013 16:01
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
And letting Kreuzinger go to Tour of Britain is even worse. There is no reason to let him go there. Instead, he could have done PN/TA or maybe one of the spanish WT races...
Tour of Britain is in the late season, so what has it got to do with PN/TA? Unless of course Kreuziger has a goal in the late season (after the ToB), such as the Worlds or Lombardia, but then in that case the ToB could be used as a form-builder
I mean with the amount of race days, although I haven't seen the fitness schedules he made for them, maybe it doesn't really suit Kreuzinger's season...
But I don't think Kreuzinger would benefit too much from the fitness if he peaks for Lombardia, there's quite a few race days in between them... World could indeed be possible, forgot about it
@Lachi Wow, thanks, I didn't know that either
Edited by Jesleyh on 26-02-2013 16:02
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| LLDS |
Posted on 26-02-2013 16:30
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flyingspurs wrote:
mine lol... wasted me a lot of time to think of the peak of the season 
I don't know what are the sponsor demands for Tirreno Adriatico, but I rather put A. Schleck in Paris-Nice and Kreuziger in Tirreno-Adriatico (or other way around, depends on what tour is more important). |
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| RedDisciple |
Posted on 26-02-2013 16:36
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Jesleyh wrote:
RedDisciple wrote:
What is your opinion on my planned season ?
Just took a look, and it isn't bad. Enough support for the leaders in the GT's etc.
What strikes me though is that your wasting race days with some of the guys.
I mean, just tell me, what is the use of Contador in Bayern Rundfahrt? You probably say getting in form for Dauphiné? You should've took another race, which isn't just flat. And preferable a race a little bit closer to Dauphiné. What you could have done is for example 2 one-day races close to Dauphiné.
And letting Kreuzinger go to Tour of Britain is even worse. There is no reason to let him go there. Instead, he could have done PN/TA or maybe one of the spanish WT races...
There are probably a few more of this ones..
But the schedule isn't bad in my opinion, just the race days of some of the leaders could've spent a lot better
I will send Contador to Bayern-Rundfart to help him get fitness for TDF.This, Dauphine and TDF will be his first tours of the season, so he needs good form.
I will send Kreuziger to ToB because I want him to help Contador in Lombardia. Thanks.
Edited by RedDisciple on 26-02-2013 16:37
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 26-02-2013 17:04
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There are still better races than Bayern to use.
Its a few more days but AToC is decent start, follow it up with a one-day the Dauphine and nationals and Contador will be good for TDF
Some of your race choices are odd, like that and ToB for Kreuziger. Like Lachi suggests its much better, and easier to group or pair riders for the whole season. Pairing Contador and Kreuziger would be a good idea for example.
And Contador should not target one-days. He is the top stage racer, so that is where he should be aiming.
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| RedDisciple |
Posted on 26-02-2013 17:39
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TheManxMissile wrote:
There are still better races than Bayern to use.
Its a few more days but AToC is decent start, follow it up with a one-day the Dauphine and nationals and Contador will be good for TDF
Some of your race choices are odd, like that and ToB for Kreuziger. Like Lachi suggests its much better, and easier to group or pair riders for the whole season. Pairing Contador and Kreuziger would be a good idea for example.
And Contador should not target one-days. He is the top stage racer, so that is where he should be aiming.
You are right about AToC, I will replace Bayern with that.About Contador, he is aiming for TDF-Vuelta double, so these 2 GT + the prep. races will get him to about 65 race days when Vuelta ends.Apart from that, there aren't any other important stage races for Contador to win, so Lombardia is a decent choice IMO.
About Kreuziger, he can't have the same schedule as Contador because Kreuziger is aiming for Giro and then he will also do TDF to help Contador.After doing 2 GT in a row he needs a bigger brake so preparing him for Lombardia by doing ToB seemed a decent option for me.
I'm not sure I'm right though, this is the first time I plan a season.
Edited by RedDisciple on 26-02-2013 17:40
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| flyingspurs |
Posted on 26-02-2013 18:01
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LLDS wrote:
flyingspurs wrote:
mine lol... wasted me a lot of time to think of the peak of the season
I don't know what are the sponsor demands for Tirreno Adriatico, but I rather put A. Schleck in Paris-Nice and Kreuziger in Tirreno-Adriatico (or other way around, depends on what tour is more important).
it's because in my save, this year TA has loaded a variant with no TT and only hilly + flat, so i think gilbert can handle TA and put Kreuziger for some mountain stages in PR, also Kreuziger is a better climber than a puncher in my save? (hill ~ 78) |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-02-2013 18:06
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flyingspurs wrote:
LLDS wrote:
flyingspurs wrote:
mine lol... wasted me a lot of time to think of the peak of the season
I don't know what are the sponsor demands for Tirreno Adriatico, but I rather put A. Schleck in Paris-Nice and Kreuziger in Tirreno-Adriatico (or other way around, depends on what tour is more important).
it's because in my save, this year TA has loaded a variant with no TT and only hilly + flat, so i think gilbert can handle TA and put Kreuziger for some mountain stages in PR, also Kreuziger is a better climber than a puncher in my save? (hill ~ 78)
Yeah, it seems like a decent choice then, Gilbert should be able to handle Tirreno then...
On Kreuzinger: Hill is 78, and he's a better climber than puncheur? That means that his MO is 79/80? Tell me, what DB are you playing?
Or did he develop?
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| flyingspurs |
Posted on 26-02-2013 18:17
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Jesleyh wrote:
flyingspurs wrote:
LLDS wrote:
flyingspurs wrote:
mine lol... wasted me a lot of time to think of the peak of the season
I don't know what are the sponsor demands for Tirreno Adriatico, but I rather put A. Schleck in Paris-Nice and Kreuziger in Tirreno-Adriatico (or other way around, depends on what tour is more important).
it's because in my save, this year TA has loaded a variant with no TT and only hilly + flat, so i think gilbert can handle TA and put Kreuziger for some mountain stages in PR, also Kreuziger is a better climber than a puncher in my save? (hill ~ 78)
Yeah, it seems like a decent choice then, Gilbert should be able to handle Tirreno then...
On Kreuzinger: Hill is 78, and he's a better climber than puncheur? That means that his MO is 79/80? Tell me, what DB are you playing?
Or did he develop?
Kreuziger is 80 in MO, im using the real name DB only lol...
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 27-02-2013 07:21
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I don't see the problem with Bayern and Britain. They are just preparation races, while a team like Saxo-Tinkoff is mainly focusing on the World Tour, so who cares about the results in those two smaller stage races? At least they are perfect when it comes to timing, so I'd leave them as they are.
I do see another problem though with riders being scheduled for Catalunya, but also for E3 and Wevelgem. This is not possible. Same issue with Eurometropole and Lombardia, so better check out those race dates first... |
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| yoejo |
Posted on 27-02-2013 10:11
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I don't see the problem with Bayern and Britain. They are just preparation races, while a team like Saxo-Tinkoff is mainly focusing on the World Tour, so who cares about the results in those two smaller stage races? At least they are perfect when it comes to timing, so I'd leave them as they are.
I agree with you there. the prep races aren´t that important.
On the overall the planning looks good for contador doing the TDF-vuelta double. kreuziger will be good for tour of romandie, giro di italia and some one-day races at the end of the season. he can also do tour of beijing in the end of the season and he can also ride vuelta al pais vasco for preparation. |
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| RedDisciple |
Posted on 27-02-2013 10:50
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Blueprint wrote:
I don't see the problem with Bayern and Britain. They are just preparation races, while a team like Saxo-Tinkoff is mainly focusing on the World Tour, so who cares about the results in those two smaller stage races? At least they are perfect when it comes to timing, so I'd leave them as they are.
I do see another problem though with riders being scheduled for Catalunya, but also for E3 and Wevelgem. This is not possible. Same issue with Eurometropole and Lombardia, so better check out those race dates first...
Thanks a lot for noticing mate, I fixed it now.
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