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PCM 2012 buy or not
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| gamasporting |
Posted on 22-06-2012 12:12
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I obviously wish for more. But Cyanide are a business, the main priority is making money. Sure the deletion of online play is ridiculous, but I was never a huge online player. Armada is a flashy attempt for more buyers, but it will work, and more people will buy it, and 8 year olds with rich parents will spend small fortunes on it. What do you expect? A game with be a pro, awesome mountian play, perfect simulation, every race in the world? Get real. Cyanide aren't as big as EA Sports or 2k Games, they are a small-ish European based games company, and for my 39 dollars, which is about a third of what most people pay for a full-fledged PC title, I'm satisfied. I haven't been "fooled out", I just have realistic expectations and they were met.
@Johan92 How have you been dissapointed by the gameplay? What were you expecting that you did not get?
Completely agreed 
this is, in fact, one of the cheapest games on the market, and if we look at it that way, I think it's worth it  |
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| gamasporting |
Posted on 22-06-2012 12:15
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This is bussiness Tedy, when you are not geting what you want, despite pointing it out for years, you have to bitch. Because it is your money they are getting,you (we) are the bosses.
In every other industrial branch it would not be possible, because you must orientate on customer and if it is not 110% as the customer want, you have no deal and the competiton gets it (this is the biggest problem,no competition here). unfortunately not many people are aware about elemental economics logic and sentence "I just appreciate what we have been given" is the biggest weapon in hands of someone who wants your money...
And i am not bitching yar after year, i am new to the pcm communities despite playing it for years, i was bitching at home earlier 
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| muttisr |
Posted on 22-06-2012 12:19
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how did all of you get it? It's first realeased next friday... |
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| muttisr |
Posted on 22-06-2012 12:23
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BTW, a bit of topic, but I found Pro Cycling Manager 5 for 0.9£... Is it owrth buying? |
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| gamasporting |
Posted on 22-06-2012 12:23
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I don't have it, but i have my opinion
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| gamasporting |
Posted on 22-06-2012 12:26
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BTW, a bit of topic, but I found Pro Cycling Manager 5 for 0.9£... Is it owrth buying?
I think it's funny to see how the old games developed, but I wouldn't buy it |
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 22-06-2012 17:13
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Always funny how one person with a problem assumes all must have the same problem, thereby making a product 'unbuyable'.
For me, it was a very smooth purchase/download/install experience. The game has plenty of flaws (not many don't) but I don't resent the $35.00 for such a product.
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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| climeon |
Posted on 23-06-2012 10:17
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muttisr wrote:
how did all of you get it? It's first realeased next friday...
Different release dates in different countries |
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| IFF |
Posted on 23-06-2012 11:21
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i am going to get it this year.
I do not buy the game every year, this will be my third time (2005 and 2008) were the previous. |
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| mattie524 |
Posted on 23-06-2012 11:33
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
I'm loving it to be honst. I don't see many flaws, and the gameplay seems to have improved quite a bit for me. Idk bout you, but I like the subtle details that have been improved, so go for it! Its only 39 bucks anyway...
I dont get it, majority of people says it is complete shite and some are delighted. This way, we will never push Canide, when people will like to be fooled out. 
I agree! I;m getting mixed signals here. not sure whether to get it or not.. :S
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| superider2010 |
Posted on 23-06-2012 11:39
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online track not much people play,so online mostly stays in armada mode where if you don't got gold riders,you just get annoyed.some buy it cyans for gold packs.if you don't want to buy,it will be frustrating,always last human with bronze riders or weak silvers
and if you want to play a minitour,i don't know if you can in friendly mode
i wanted to sold my pcm 2011 and remain with pcm 2012,but probably i'll play and pcm 2011 because after few mounths will be more ennoying seeing all in a montain stage with 3-4 posible winners of giro,le tour,vuelta
Edited by superider2010 on 23-06-2012 11:41
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| kevtucks |
Posted on 23-06-2012 12:17
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9-Ball wrote:
Always funny how one person with a problem assumes all must have the same problem, thereby making a product 'unbuyable'.
For me, it was a very smooth purchase/download/install experience. The game has plenty of flaws (not many don't) but I don't resent the $35.00 for such a product.
yes very smooth purchase download etc just over an hour from when i clicked the link to playing  |
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| Rasmusen |
Posted on 23-06-2012 12:43
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i prefer a sloppy download and a good game, then a good download and how the game is now. unfortunally i bought it in a shop.
And what is new in game play? mountain stage feel like flat stage, the pace on a climb is so fast its actually no fun.
They should make the last climb realtime.
The the looks and i talk for the controls they oke, if your resolution is lower then 1680x1080. graphics yeah trees look nice, riders are the same as 2 years before.
There is an option riderfaces, when you select it, you still see all the same faces.
In 2 years there is no progress at all in gameplay and rider grapihics
pcm 11 with daillies 2012update is nicer.
Also it disturb me in all those years that they dont do any effort in colors of frames, why thy dont use guys from here, so when the game is released the bikes atleast look cool. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 23-06-2012 15:39
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Rasmusen wrote:
Also it disturb me in all those years that they dont do any effort in colors of frames, why thy dont use guys from here, so when the game is released the bikes atleast look cool.
What do you mean? Put real bikes in the game? For that they'd need a license with the equipment brands they choose to add, which Cyanide has clearly shown they're not willing to trying to get. If you're talking solely about frame colors, PCM11/12 have the auto color feature so a frame can be colored with any color (in specific areas).
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 23-06-2012 16:22
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Ever PCM game that gets released has bugs at first, didn't 11 and 10, Im sure this time last year we where sating PCM 11 because of all the bugs.
Be patient, PCM is a huge graphical game, it isn't going to be perfect, but it will be as realistic as possible. Many will say well delay the game, with the Tour de France about to start people are well into Cycling so releasing this now and adding updates will make them money, because of the time of year.
I think PCM 12 is a really good game and when all the bugs and the PCMDaily Expansion pack is released it will be a really good exciting game to play.
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 23-06-2012 16:27
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Ste117 wrote:
Ever PCM game that gets released has bugs at first, didn't 11 and 10, Im sure this time last year we where sating PCM 11 because of all the bugs.
Be patient, PCM is a huge graphical game, it isn't going to be perfect, but it will be as realistic as possible. Many will say well delay the game, with the Tour de France about to start people are well into Cycling so releasing this now and adding updates will make them money, because of the time of year.
I think PCM 12 is a really good game and when all the bugs and the PCMDaily Expansion pack is released it will be a really good exciting game to play.
Yes.. but the more bugs the more unlikely them all will be fixed. Look at PCM10, you can play with the latest patch and you still can't attack, sprint isn't good, and everything finishes in a sprint. Who knows if Cyanide will fix all bugs this time.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 23-06-2012 16:34
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
Ever PCM game that gets released has bugs at first, didn't 11 and 10, Im sure this time last year we where sating PCM 11 because of all the bugs.
Be patient, PCM is a huge graphical game, it isn't going to be perfect, but it will be as realistic as possible. Many will say well delay the game, with the Tour de France about to start people are well into Cycling so releasing this now and adding updates will make them money, because of the time of year.
I think PCM 12 is a really good game and when all the bugs and the PCMDaily Expansion pack is released it will be a really good exciting game to play.
Yes.. but the more bugs the more unlikely them all will be fixed. Look at PCM10, you can play with the latest patch and you still can't attack, sprint isn't good, and everything finishes in a sprint. Who knows if Cyanide will fix all bugs this time.
As far as I'm concerned there are no major bugs with the gameplay, the most important part, just a few with career mode. Attacking is good, sprinting is good, breakaways are good, bonus sprints for KOM and points are good, the only thing I'm unsure of still is cobbles.
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 23-06-2012 16:40
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So far I would say the gameplay is better then before. But the game is really only worth playing once the PCM.Daily DB comes out. PCM.Daily should get like 90% of the money Focus/Cyanide makes because the DB is what makes the game playable. Without it, I wouldn't have bought the game.
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Posted on 23-06-2012 16:48
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valverde321 wrote:
As far as I'm concerned there are no major bugs with the gameplay, the most important part, just a few with career mode. Attacking is good, sprinting is good, breakaways are good, bonus sprints for KOM and points are good, the only thing I'm unsure of still is cobbles.
Yes, I mentioned gameplay bugs because that's where PCM10 sucked. But in PCM12, we can't be sure we'll be getting the old online mode back, renewing sponsors, and even simpler things such as zooming the profile. Of course, even if they don't fix them all it's likely that the game will be good and worth playing, but I don't agree in saying that "all PCMs had their bugs, and they'll all be gone with the patches". The original post also mentioned PCM11, but no, we weren't sating because of the bugs a year ago, the first reactions were (surprisingly) very positive about the game.
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Posted on 23-06-2012 17:48
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lluuiiggii wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
As far as I'm concerned there are no major bugs with the gameplay, the most important part, just a few with career mode. Attacking is good, sprinting is good, breakaways are good, bonus sprints for KOM and points are good, the only thing I'm unsure of still is cobbles.
Yes, I mentioned gameplay bugs because that's where PCM10 sucked. But in PCM12, we can't be sure we'll be getting the old online mode back, renewing sponsors, and even simpler things such as zooming the profile. Of course, even if they don't fix them all it's likely that the game will be good and worth playing, but I don't agree in saying that "all PCMs had their bugs, and they'll all be gone with the patches". The original post also mentioned PCM11, but no, we weren't sating because of the bugs a year ago, the first reactions were (surprisingly) very positive about the game.
Thats fair, I just think in general people are looking too deeply at the negatives and not even considering the positives, and therefore calling it one of the worst releases of PCM ever.
Lets look at it:
There is realistic gameplay + realistic results
Many New Teams + More Licenses
In Game Season Planner
3 Divisions instead of 2
Ability to use more than 2gb of RAM, especially useful for those long stages
Armada Mode (although I'm not too wild about it anymore)
New Interface as well as stage profiles
So far the only major problem I have with the game is leaving out online mode, unless of course any major bugs are discovered elsewhere within the game, but I haven't seen any. And I dont see the stage profiles not being able to be zoomed in as a problem although its a feature they previously had and took out.
And for the record, I still find PCM 10 worth the money.
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