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The Frustration Thread 2012
Ian Butler
Well, I suppose there's a lot of frustration about release download link Grin
Fortunately for me, I've ordered a disc, so this time the joke's on me Pfft
 
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superider2010
fucking idiots,deleted my account on official forum
retardes because i payed for pcm 2012 and pre ordered even tdf 2012 ps3 which it was almost double as price then pcm 2012
Edited by superider2010 on 21-06-2012 09:35
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geisterhome
so whats are the complains with the new edition, apart from the release date/time?Wink
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superider2010
the big lie
"additional new online mode" and the thruth was they replaced one mode with another
and now they are focusing a lot on armada mode because has many bugs and will concentrate less on carrer mode bugs
i'mnot fan of offline,so doesn't affect me,but affect me online where i needed a normal online with minitours,real teams
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Ian Butler
Actually, I don't have many complains, it's a very decent game.
Just the fact that you can't edit races in the standard database anymore, what's that about?
 
geisterhome
Ian Butler wrote:
Actually, I don't have many complains, it's a very decent game.
Just the fact that you can't edit races in the standard database anymore, what's that about?


sounds nice! the last pcm i played was the 2010 version.

i got 3 options now, 1. stay with 2010 2. get 2011 or 3. get 2012...

what im wondering abt now: is 2012 better than 2011?
and since i havent played my old pcm 2010 in a while mostly cos i got kind of bored of it after playing it excessively for quiet some time. do you guys think pcm 2012 is a big enough progress (compared to 2010) so that itll bring me back to playing the pcm series?
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Ian Butler
geisterhome wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Actually, I don't have many complains, it's a very decent game.
Just the fact that you can't edit races in the standard database anymore, what's that about?


sounds nice! the last pcm i played was the 2010 version.

i got 3 options now, 1. stay with 2010 2. get 2011 or 3. get 2012...

what im wondering abt now: is 2012 better than 2011?
and since i havent played my old pcm 2010 in a while mostly cos i got kind of bored of it after playing it excessively for quiet some time. do you guys think pcm 2012 is a big enough progress (compared to 2010) so that itll bring me back to playing the pcm series?


Personally, I like 12 the best.
The AI is much better than in 11.
I'm waiting for the patch though, so I can finally start my career decently. (with a new patch you have to restart career)
 
chraanz
Red numbers on the bankaccount.. - about -43.000,-. Then finished Giro d'Italia 5th in the GC. But not receiving any money? What the f.....?!
 
chraanz
chraanz wrote:
Red numbers on the bankaccount.. - about -43.000,-. Then finished Giro d'Italia 5th in the GC. But not receiving any money? What the f.....?!


Hmm, didn't go bankrupt as the message said I would?! Now I'm just -115.000.. Will I go bankrupt at the end of this month then, or what !?
 
DanBab
Very bad finances, sponsor page, equipment page, and camera issues(i have to switch back after i click on a rider)

 
Ian Butler
chraanz wrote:
chraanz wrote:
Red numbers on the bankaccount.. - about -43.000,-. Then finished Giro d'Italia 5th in the GC. But not receiving any money? What the f.....?!


Hmm, didn't go bankrupt as the message said I would?! Now I'm just -115.000.. Will I go bankrupt at the end of this month then, or what !?


On PCM 2011 you didn't go bankrupt at all. Maybe just at the end of the season. Let me know how it turned out!
 
cunego59
chraanz wrote:
chraanz wrote:
Red numbers on the bankaccount.. - about -43.000,-. Then finished Giro d'Italia 5th in the GC. But not receiving any money? What the f.....?!


Hmm, didn't go bankrupt as the message said I would?! Now I'm just -115.000.. Will I go bankrupt at the end of this month then, or what !?


You can't actually go bankrupt as far as I know. You just can't offer contracts with more than 2k/months wage, neither for renewing nor for signing new riders. Also, you can't scout for a new sponsor (I'm not sure about this part), so if your contract with the sponsor ends, you'll get some offers at the end of the season from rather bad sponsors. By and by, your team will get pretty bad.

It'd be great if someone could confirm this, though, as I've never been in this situation Wink
 
carmelobymelo
Is this so fucking hard to make the game even slightly realistic and force some splits in the mountains? It's peleton all the way to the last climb and then few groups 40+ riders just ridiculous. But we have armada...
[PCM13]PCM.daily 2013 Expansion Pack DB Updated Stats + startlists (Last update 17.10.2013) - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=30591

[PCM13]2013 Startlists (Last update 24.08.2013 - Vuelta a Espana): https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=30693

[PCM12]PCM.daily 2012 Expansion Pack Updated Stats + 78 startlists (Last update 07.10.2012) - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=23810

[PCM11]PCM.daily 2012 Stat updates + startlists (Last update 07.10.2012) - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_499156

[PCM12]2012 Startlists (Last update 05.10.2012 - Giro dell'Emilia): https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_562321
 
9-Ball
I have realistic mountain splits and sprints, but no doping options, damn it!
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
 
carmelobymelo
9-Ball wrote:
I have realistic mountain splits and sprints, but no doping options, damn it!


In single mode or career? which db? coz I'm getting furious ;/
[PCM13]PCM.daily 2013 Expansion Pack DB Updated Stats + startlists (Last update 17.10.2013) - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=30591

[PCM13]2013 Startlists (Last update 24.08.2013 - Vuelta a Espana): https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=30693

[PCM12]PCM.daily 2012 Expansion Pack Updated Stats + 78 startlists (Last update 07.10.2012) - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=23810

[PCM11]PCM.daily 2012 Stat updates + startlists (Last update 07.10.2012) - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_499156

[PCM12]2012 Startlists (Last update 05.10.2012 - Giro dell'Emilia): https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_562321
 
9-Ball
Single - not tried career yet. Although, the going wisdom is it's harder to find realistic mountain results in single stages or single stage races. I've been using the following DB [https://pcmdaily.com/infusions/pro_download_panel/download.php?did=845] up until installing the PCM Daily Expansion on Tuesday. Only run 4 or 5 test mountain stages with it so far but I'm seeing similar results. Nothing weird so far.
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
 
Mr_Monk
cunego59 wrote:
chraanz wrote:
chraanz wrote:
Red numbers on the bankaccount.. - about -43.000,-. Then finished Giro d'Italia 5th in the GC. But not receiving any money? What the f.....?!


Hmm, didn't go bankrupt as the message said I would?! Now I'm just -115.000.. Will I go bankrupt at the end of this month then, or what !?


You can't actually go bankrupt as far as I know. You just can't offer contracts with more than 2k/months wage, neither for renewing nor for signing new riders. Also, you can't scout for a new sponsor (I'm not sure about this part), so if your contract with the sponsor ends, you'll get some offers at the end of the season from rather bad sponsors. By and by, your team will get pretty bad.

It'd be great if someone could confirm this, though, as I've never been in this situation Wink


This is correct, I've been in that situation before Sad
 
carmelobymelo
9-Ball wrote:
Single - not tried career yet. Although, the going wisdom is it's harder to find realistic mountain results in single stages or single stage races. I've been using the following DB [https://pcmdaily.com/infusions/pro_download_panel/download.php?did=845] up until installing the PCM Daily Expansion on Tuesday. Only run 4 or 5 test mountain stages with it so far but I'm seeing similar results. Nothing weird so far.


Playing on Expansion Pack with newest patch not a single rider was dropped on Col de la Madeleine(26km 6%)...so appalling.
[PCM13]PCM.daily 2013 Expansion Pack DB Updated Stats + startlists (Last update 17.10.2013) - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=30591

[PCM13]2013 Startlists (Last update 24.08.2013 - Vuelta a Espana): https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=30693

[PCM12]PCM.daily 2012 Expansion Pack Updated Stats + 78 startlists (Last update 07.10.2012) - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=23810

[PCM11]PCM.daily 2012 Stat updates + startlists (Last update 07.10.2012) - https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_499156

[PCM12]2012 Startlists (Last update 05.10.2012 - Giro dell'Emilia): https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_562321
 
lluuiiggii
9-Ball wrote:
I have realistic mountain splits and sprints, but no doping options, damn it!

Sure there is, but only in career mode, it's called "training camp" I think. Btw, apparently if you go there playing with Team Sky you get double stat bonus - but only if you take your TdF climbers, no other riders whatsoever Pfft
Edited by lluuiiggii on 19-07-2012 21:50
 
cilldroichid
Out of curiosity i ran today's stage in single stage mode, lastest patch, PCM.daily's Expansion Pack, difficulty normal. I played Team Argos and just watched the stage to see what would happen, now i'm new to PCM and i'm not a 'hardcore' cycling fan but it seems to me to be a reasonably realistic result.



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2Cadel EvansBMC Racing Team+ 30
3Alberto ContadorTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
4Jurgen Van den BroeckLotto Belisol Team+ 1'03
5Chris FroomeSky Procycling+ 2'02
6Joaquím RodríguezKatusha Teams.t.
7Michele ScarponiLampre - ISD+ 2'49
8Vincenzo NibaliLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
9Fränk SchleckRadioShack - Nissans.t.
10Igor AntónEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
11Michael RogersSky Procycling+ 3'07
12Thibaut PinotFDJ - BigMat+ 3'54
13Thomas VoecklerTeam Europcars.t.
14Nicolas RocheAG2R La Mondiale+ 5'16
15Sylvain ChavanelOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
16Denis MenchovKatusha Team+ 5'26
17Juan José CoboMovistar Team+ 6'14
18Pierre RollandTeam Europcars.t.
19Mikel NieveEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
20Janez BrajkovičAstana Pro Teams.t.
21Peter VelitsOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
22Bauke MollemaRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
23Chris Anker SørensenTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
24Tom DanielsonGarmin - Sharps.t.
25Vasil KiryienkaMovistar Teams.t.
26Christophe RiblonAG2R La Mondiales.t.
27Thomas De GendtVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
28Christophe Le MévelGarmin - Sharp+ 6'32
29Jelle VanendertLotto Belisol Team+ 6'53
30Sylwester SzmydLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
31Haimar ZubeldiaRadioShack - Nissan+ 7'20
32Maxime MonfortRadioShack - Nissans.t.
33Paolo TiralongoAstana Pro Teams.t.
34Jean-Christophe PeraudAG2R La Mondiales.t.
35David MoncoutiéCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
36Simon SpilakKatusha Teams.t.
37Pierrick FédrigoFDJ - BigMat+ 8'23
38Rémy Di GregorioCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
39Samuel SánchezEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
40Bruno PiresTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
41Johann TschoppBMC Racing Teams.t.
42Peter StetinaGarmin - Sharp+ 8'59
43Jens VoigtRadioShack - Nissans.t.
44Chris HornerRadioShack - Nissans.t.
45Levi LeipheimerOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
46Ion IzagirreEuskaltel - Euskadi+ 9'26
47Amets TxurrukaEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
48Wout PoelsVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
49Stephen CummingsBMC Racing Teams.t.
50Amaël MoinardBMC Racing Teams.t.
51Hubert DupontAG2R La Mondiales.t.
52Daniel NavarroTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
53Matteo MontagutiAG2R La Mondiales.t.
54John GadretAG2R La Mondiales.t.
55Yury TrofimovKatusha Teams.t.
56Steve MorabitoBMC Racing Teams.t.
57Marco PinottiBMC Racing Teams.t.
58Anthony CharteauTeam Europcars.t.
59Cyril LemoineSaur - Sojasuns.t.
60Jesús HernándezTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank+ 10'32
61Benoît VaugrenardFDJ - BigMat+ 10'42
62Peter SaganLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
63José Joaquín RojasMovistar Teams.t.
64Grischa NiermannRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
65Alexandre GeniezTeam Argos - Shimano+ 13'01
66Andreas KlödenRadioShack - Nissan+ 15'04
67Kanstantsin SiutsouSky Procycling+ 15'23
68Jérôme CoppelSaur - Sojasuns.t.
69Richie PorteSky Procyclings.t.
70Rui CostaMovistar Teams.t.
71Tony MartinOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
72Mikel AstarlozaEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
73Beñat IntxaustiMovistar Teams.t.
74Matteo CarraraVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
75Damiano CarusoLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
76Dries DevenynsOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
77Simon GeschkeTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
78Przemyslaw NiemiecLampre - ISDs.t.
79Andrew TalanskyGarmin - Sharps.t.
80Christian Vande VeldeGarmin - Sharps.t.
81Rubén PlazaMovistar Teams.t.
82Tanel KangertAstana Pro Teams.t.
83Sergey LagutinVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
84Rein TaaramäeCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
85Jérémy RoyFDJ - BigMats.t.
86Diego UlissiLampre - ISDs.t.
87Blel KadriAG2R La Mondiales.t.
88Mathieu PergetAG2R La Mondiales.t.
89Pieter WeeningOrica - GreenEdges.t.
90Brice FeilluSaur - Sojasuns.t.
91Laurens Ten DamRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
92Dominik NerzLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
93Daniel MorenoKatusha Teams.t.
94Francis De GreefLotto Belisol Teams.t.
95Luis León SánchezRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
96Cayetano SarmientoLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
97Tom SlagterRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
98Kenny ElissondeFDJ - BigMats.t.
99Rémi PauriolFDJ - BigMats.t.
100Marzio BruseghinMovistar Teams.t.
101Alexsandr DyachenkoAstana Pro Teams.t.
102Cyril GautierTeam Europcars.t.
103Daniele PietropolliLampre - ISDs.t.
104Christophe KernTeam Europcars.t.
105Leonardo BertagnolliLampre - ISDs.t.
106Johnny HoogerlandVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
107Vladimir GusevKatusha Teams.t.
108Guillaume LevarletSaur - Sojasuns.t.
109Ángel ViciosoKatusha Teams.t.
110Rob RuijghVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
111Arnold JeannessonFDJ - BigMats.t.
112Bradley WigginsSky Procyclings.t.
113David ZabriskieGarmin - Sharps.t.
114Sandy CasarFDJ - BigMats.t.
115Wilco KeldermanRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
116Guillaume BonnafondAG2R La Mondiales.t.
117Kevin De WeertOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
118Juan José OrozEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
119Morris PossoniLampre - ISDs.t.
120Jürgen Van de WalleLotto Belisol Teams.t.
121Gorka IzagirreEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
122Bart De ClercqLotto Belisol Teams.t.
123Matthew LloydLampre - ISDs.t.
124Mauro SantambrogioBMC Racing Teams.t.
125Michael AlbasiniOrica - GreenEdges.t.
126Benjamín NovalTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
127Volodymir GustovTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
128Linus GerdemannRadioShack - Nissans.t.
129Alexandr KolobnevKatusha Teams.t.
130Davide MalacarneTeam Europcars.t.
131Giovanni ViscontiMovistar Team+ 16'51
132Gianni MeersmanLotto Belisol Teams.t.
133George HincapieBMC Racing Teams.t.
134Lars Ytting BakLotto Belisol Team+ 17'57
135Egoi MartínezEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
136Sérgio PaulinhoTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
137Eros CapecchiLiquigas - Cannondale+ 19'42
138Johannes FröhlingerTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
139Cristiano SalernoLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
140Fabrice JeandesbozSaur - Sojasuns.t.
141Thomas PetersonGarmin - Sharps.t.
142Simon GerransOrica - GreenEdges.t.
143Andrey KashechkinAstana Pro Teams.t.
144Cameron MeyerOrica - GreenEdges.t.
145Maxim IglinskiyAstana Pro Teams.t.
146Jonathan HivertSaur - Sojasuns.t.
147Luis Ángel MatéCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
148Stuart O'GradyOrica - GreenEdges.t.
149Samuel DumoulinCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
150Yannick TalabardonSaur - Sojasuns.t.
151Geraint ThomasSky Procyclings.t.
152Carlos BarredoRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
153Vincent JérômeTeam Europcars.t.
154Grega BoleLampre - ISDs.t.
155Philippe GilbertBMC Racing Teams.t.
156Nicki SørensenTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Banks.t.
157Alexandre VinokourovAstana Pro Team+ 20'39
158Robert GesinkRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
159Thomas BonninTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
160Thomas DamuseauTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
161Tobias LudvigssonTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
162Laurent MangelSaur - Sojasuns.t.
163Romain ZingleCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
164Egoitz GarcíaCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
165Yukihiro DoiTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
166Julien SimonSaur - Sojasuns.t.
167Nicolas VogondyCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
168Björn LeukemansVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
169Nicolas EdetCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
170Romain FeilluVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
171Moreno MoserLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
172Yukiya ArashiroTeam Europcars.t.
173Óscar FreireKatusha Teams.t.
174Mathieu SprickTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
175Daniele BennatiRadioShack - Nissans.t.
176Enrico GasparottoAstana Pro Teams.t.
177Alessandro PetacchiLampre - ISDs.t.
178Ben SwiftSky Procyclings.t.
179Greg HendersonLotto Belisol Teams.t.
180Tom DumoulinTeam Argos - Shimanos.t.
181Heinrich HausslerGarmin - Sharp+ 26'34
182Sébastien TurgotTeam Europcars.t.
183Bert GrabschOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
184Simon ClarkeOrica - GreenEdge+ 28'04
185Tomas VaitkusOrica - GreenEdges.t.
186Arthur VichotFDJ - BigMats.t.
187André GreipelLotto Belisol Teams.t.
188Francisco José VentosoMovistar Teams.t.
189Matthew GossOrica - GreenEdge+ 29'19
190Tyler FarrarGarmin - Sharps.t.
191Allan DavisOrica - GreenEdges.t.
192Borut BožicAstana Pro Team+ 33'53
193Juan Antonio FlechaSky Procyclings.t.
194Kenny Van HummelVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
195Niki TerpstraOmega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team+ 36'23
196Bernhard EiselSky Procyclings.t.
197Mark RenshawRabobank Cycling Team+ 39'17
 
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