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Kentaurus
Team Points

I will use an entirely separate points system from the game, there will be no difference in WT and Continental, the value of each race can be found in the list below this post.

For each race the top 10 will get points for themselves, their team, and their country. The points a race is worth will get divided between the top 10.
1st: 20%
2nd: 17%
3rd: 14%
4th: 10%
5th: 9%
6th: 8%
7th: 7%
8th: 6%
9th: 5%
10th: 4%
(Yes fractions of points will be counted)

Finishers in the other categories of stage races will also be awarded points.
1st: 10%
2nd: 8%
3rd: 6%
4th: 4%
5th: 2%

Lastly a stage win will also count for 5% of the total points as well.

So For example: From my simulated TdF v2.
Tour de France - 100 points
Post stage 21 report: Somewhere - Paris.


General Classification:
A. Contador (Gives +20 to A. Contador, Holden, and Spain)
A. Schleck (Gives +17 to A. Schleck, CSC, and Luxembourg)
S. Sanchez (Gives +14 to S. Sanchez, Blusens, and Spain)
A. Kloden (Gives +10 to A. Kloden, Evian, and Germany)
R. Gesink (Gives +9 to R. Gesink, Evian, and Netherlands)
D. Menchov (Gives +8 to D. Menchov, Clas, and Russia)
V. Nibali (Gives +7 to V. Nibali, Rockstar, and Italy)
B. Wiggens (Gives +6 to B. Wiggens, Swalec, and Great Britain)
I. Basso (Gives +5 to I. Basso, BMW, and Italy)
J. Rodriguez (Gives +4 to J. Rodriguez, Col. Coldeportes, and Spain)

Points Classification:
M. Cavendish (Gives +10 to M. Cavendish, Ferrari, and Great Britain)
A. Greipel (Gives +8 to A. Greipel, UK Youth and Germany)
E. Boasson Hagen (Gives +6 to EBH, CSC and Norway)
M. Kittel (Gives +4 to M. Kittel, Privatbank, and Germany)
F. Cancellara (Gives +2 to F. Cancellara, UBS, and Switzerland)

Mountain Classification:
J. Rodriguez (Gives +10 to J. Rodriguez, Col. Coldeportes, and Spain)
J. Pineau (Gives +8 to J. Pineau, Clas, and France)
J. Gadret (Gives +6 to J. Gadret, Swalec and France)
J. Hivert (Gives +4 to J. Hivart, Credit, and France)
A. Geniez (Gives +2 to A. Geniez, Aviva, and France)

Young Rider Classification:
S. Kruijswijk (Gives +10 to S. Kruijswijk, Grolsch, and Netherlands)
E. Boasson Hagen (Gives +8 to EBH, CSC and Norway)
R. Uran (Gives +6 to R. Uran, VI, and Colombia)
G. Izagirre (Gives +4 to G. Izagirre, Santander, and Spain)
A. Geniez (Gives +2 to A. Geniez, Aviva and France)

Team Classifiaction:
BMW (Gives +10 to BMW and Germany)
Evian (Gives +8 to Evian and France)
Bike NZ (Gives +6 to Bike NZ and New Zealand)
ANZ (Gives +4 to ANZ and Austrailia)
Rockstar (Gives +2 to Rockstar and Canada)

Stage Winner: Mark Cavendish. (Gives +5 to M. Cavendish, Ferrari and Great Britain)

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For 1 day races, only the top 10 part will be considered, and it is done the same.



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Points will be plentiful. I'll put the Race list and value in the next post.
Edited by Kentaurus on 26-05-2012 22:32
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Kentaurus
Race Reputation

Tour de France100
Liège - Bastogne - Liège90
Ronde van Vlaanderen90
Paris - Roubaix90
Milano - Sanremo90
Giro d'Italia85
La Flèche Wallonne80
Il Lombardia80
Vuelta a España80
Paris - Nice75
Critérium du Dauphiné75
Tour de Suisse75
Tirreno - Adriatico65
Amstel Gold Race65
Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco65
Tour de Romandie60
Amgen Tour of California60
Santos Tour Down Under60
Clásica San Sebastián60
Volta Ciclista a Catalunya60
Gent - Wevelgem55
Omloop Het Nieuwsblad50
Vattenfall Cyclassics50
GP Ouest France - Plouay50
E3 Prijs Vlaanderen - Harelbeke50
Critérium International45
Eneco Tour45
Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal40
Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec40
Paris - Tours40
Tour of Beijing35
Skoda-Tour de Luxembourg35
Ronde van België35
Vuelta a Burgos35
Tour of Oman35
Tour de Pologne35
Strade Bianche35
Tour of Qatar35
Int. Österreich-Rundfahrt30
KBC-Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde30
Volta ao Algarve30
Tour of Britain30
Kuurne - Bruxelles - Kuurne30
5 Jours de Dunkerque30
Tour de Wallonie30
Giro dell'Emilia30
Circuit Sarthe - Pays de la Loire25
Tro-Bro Léon25
Mémorial Frank Vandenbroucke25
Vuelta a Mallorca25
Vuelta a la Región de Murcia25
Volta a Portugal25
USA Pro Cycling Challenge25
Vuelta a Andalucía25
Milano - Torino25
Tour du Haut Var25
Dutch Food Valley Classic25
Giro del Lazio25
Giro del Friuli25
Tour de Rijke25
Tour de l'Ain25
Giro del Trentino25
Tour de Vendée25
Tre Valli Varesine20
Giro del Piemonte20
Giro del Veneto20
Delta Tour Zeeland20
Tour Méditerranéen20
Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen20
Classica Sarda Sassari - Cagliari20
Vuelta Asturias20
Paris - Bruxelles20
Brixia Tour20
Etoile de Bessèges20
Coppa Placci20
Grand Prix de Wallonie20
Hel van het Mergelland20
Tour de Picardie20
Circuit Franco-Belge20
Circuit de Lorraine20
GP de Fourmies20
De Brabantse Pijl20
Dwars door Vlaanderen20
Tour du Limousin20
GP du canton d'Argovie20
Vuelta a Castilla y León20
Tour de San Luis20
Scheldeprijs20
Presidential Cycling Tour of Turkey20
Paris - Corrèze20
Rund um den Finanzplatz Eschborn-Frankfurt20
Paris - Camembert Lepetit20
Settimana Coppi e Bartali20
Route du Sud20
Ster ZLM Tour20
Settimana Ciclistica Lombarda by Bergamasca20
GP Nobili Rubinetterie Coppa Citta di Stresa15
Tour de Slovénie15
Grand Prix de la Somme15
GP Nobili Rubinetterie Coppa Papa' Carlo15
Les Boucles du Sud Ardèche - Souvenir Francis Delpech15
Grand Prix Pino Cerami15
GP Stad Zottegem15
GP Industria & Commercio di Prato15
Halle - Ingooigem15
Grand Prix de Plumelec-Morbihan15
Gran Premio Miguel Indurain15
La Poly Normande15
Boucles de l'Aulne - Châteaulin15
GP di Lugano15
Coppa Agostoni15
ProRace Berlin15
Tour du Doubs - Conseil Général15
Trofeo Laigueglia15
Giro di Sardegna15
Giro dell'Appennino15
Giro della Calabria15
Cholet - Pays De Loire15
Schaal Sels15
Nokere - Koerse15
Omloop van het Houtland Lichtervelde15
Tour of Qinghai Lake15
G.P. Beghelli10
Druivenkoers - Overijse10
Coppa Bernocchi10
Klasika Primavera10
GP de Denain Porte du Hainaut10
Le Tour de Langkawi10
Japan Cup10
Grand Prix la Marseillaise10
Le Samyn10
Tour du Finistère10
Memorial Rik Van Steenbergen10
Giro della Romagna10
Sparkassen Giro10
Giro di Toscana10
Paris - Bourges10
Coppa Sabatini10
Sparkassen Münsterland Giro10
G.P. Costa degli Etruschi10
Vuelta a la Rioja10
Albert Achterhes Profronde van Drenthe10
Prueba Villafranca-Ordiziako Klasika10
Clasica de Almeria10
Trofeo Melinda10
Route Adélie de Vitré10
Rund um Köln10
Chrono des Nations10
Circuito de Getxo10
G.P. Camaiore10
GP d'Isbergues - Pas de Calais10
GP dell'Insubria-Lugano10
Grote Prijs Jef Scherens - Rondom Leuven10
Gran Premio Llodio10
Memorial Marco Pantani10
GP Herning10
Trofeo Matteotti10
GP Kranj10
GP Industria & Artigianato10
Glava Tour of Norway5
SEB Tartu Grand Prix5
Himmerland Rundt5
Scandinavian Race in Uppsala5

Edited by Kentaurus on 13-05-2012 07:20
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Kentaurus
Yes, please send the list in a PM.
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Pinktay3
Hi, i'd like to have a go.

My team will be from New Zealand, have major sponsors of Avanti and Bike NZ and will therefore be titled

Avanti - Bike NZ Professional Cycling Team
or
Avanti - Bike NZ

This sounds really cool. I hope it works out well.
Cheers
 
Eden95
Do we send the drafts now?

..And also so teams aren't over-powered, is there a price for each rider, like a good GC rider like Nibali = $80,000 a good domestique, maybe O'Grady or Voigt = $40,000 or something? Or doesn't it matter?

Edit: And also, just an idea, you could start up another thread just for general discussion, transfers etc?
Edited by Eden95 on 13-05-2012 13:29
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Kentaurus
Yea, I will start up another thread once we get past the draft. Teams won't be overpower simple because the competition will be just as strong. And once we get to the 3rd round I will draft for several continental teams (since it doesn't look like we are going to have that many players) and that will use up many more selections.

And yes everyone can send me their first round choices of riders now, and as soon as we get to the point of starting the draft we I can make that happen.
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Vien
Great Grin

And just in case, will every race be simulated, or will you do some important races in 3D?
 
FreitasPCM
OK, so I sent my list, hope everything's correct. Smile
 
Kentaurus
Okay so I need to keep things moving (or else it falls apart) so I have started the draft, people can still join in! I have randomized the order so no one had an unfair advantage, and the 4 open slots were also randomized in.

Here is the order, and the 1st round picks!
Team, (Nation), User
UBS-Rolex, (Switzerland), franki28
Ferrari-BA Cycling (Italy), Wiley
VI - SigaarSnor (Netherlands), Vien
ANZ-Giant Cycling team (Austrailia), Eden95
Open Team A
Team Holden - Westpac (Austrailia), Zoom123
Team UK Youth (Great Britain), sutty68
Rockstar Toronto Cycling (Canada), Teddy The Creator
Swalec-UNICEF (Great Britain), baggieboys32
Avanti - Bike NZ (New Zealand), Pinktay3
Open Team B
Team CSC (Denmark), fernando97
Google Cycling Team (USA), Miguel98
Open Team C
BMW-Allianz (Germany), jaxika
Colombia Coldeportes (Colombia), canojuancho
Blusens-Avintia (Spain), FreitasPCM
Open Team D

(For the open teams, the order is randomized, so joining doesn't mean that will will get the next open slot, it could be any of the 4.)
Edited by Kentaurus on 14-05-2012 05:46
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Kentaurus
Vien wrote:
Great Grin

And just in case, will every race be simulated, or will you do some important races in 3D?


I currently don't plan on doing any of the races in 3d, for several reasons: A: It is incredibly time consuming and this is supposed to move fast. B: Don't want to deal with all sorts of different jerseys and implementing them into the game (though by all means have a jersey for your team and your own page). C: It can frequently have unrealistic results and I feel simulating does a better job with accuracy. D: This is really all about speed....I want to get through a season in right around a month.
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lluuiiggii
Kentaurus wrote:
C: It can frequently have unrealistic results and I feel simulating does a better job with accuracy.

Seriously? Shock
 
Kentaurus
lluuiiggii wrote:
Kentaurus wrote:
C: It can frequently have unrealistic results and I feel simulating does a better job with accuracy.

Seriously? Shock


Yes, try running La Flèche Wallonne ... bet none of the favorites ever win in 3d mode. (That is one that I have noticed the most)
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Kentaurus
Also, I need to know if anyone else is having problems downloading the Rider List? It's not critical now because most of you have the 2012 DB and can view all the riders fine like that, but after season one the list will change and I need to make sure everyone can get it.
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Vien
I downloaded it, but I can't sort it on level, which might get a bit annoying. However I'm not so good with Excel so I may have missed a button Pfft
 
Wiley
Kentaurus wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
Kentaurus wrote:
C: It can frequently have unrealistic results and I feel simulating does a better job with accuracy.

Seriously? Shock


Yes, try running La Flèche Wallonne ... bet none of the favorites ever win in 3d mode. (That is one that I have noticed the most)


i just quick simmed fleche
leonard duque won... lol

but it is the right choice and the random results are not the usual
Edited by Wiley on 13-05-2012 17:41
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franki28
Would detailled simulation be a better choice? I don't use it but maybe it's good. I'm not a fan of quick sim because for example, in MSR it always finish in a massive sprint with 170 riders in the peloton :s
 
FreitasPCM
franki28 wrote:
Would detailled simulation be a better choice? I don't use it but maybe it's good. I'm not a fan of quick sim because for example, in MSR it always finish in a massive sprint with 170 riders in the peloton :s


Detailed simulation is even worse.
 
jaxika
FreitasPCM wrote:
franki28 wrote:
Would detailled simulation be a better choice? I don't use it but maybe it's good. I'm not a fan of quick sim because for example, in MSR it always finish in a massive sprint with 170 riders in the peloton :s


Detailed simulation is even worse.


Yep. From the 3 options, the quick sim its the far better...
 
Kentaurus
Okay, I have a concern with how some people are sending in draft choices. These choices are for this one round only. This should be the single best rider on your team and you all have the top teams. The first round list should be easy, if you have a rider under an 80 overall rating on the list I would reconsider.

I don't need a list of riders you want over the next 10 rounds. I need to know which rider you want this round. I've seen multiple lists with riders ranked in the low 70s overall, you will be able to get these riders later, worry about getting a superstar that can win the TdF or a top sprinter, or an elite for the Ardennes or Cobbles. You don't need to worry about getting "teammate" riders in the 1st round.
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