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| TankNL |
Posted on 28-02-2012 20:51
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stumbled on another file that looks abandoned;
STA_roster_type_leader
anybody know that it is used for? setup looks interesting; correlation between leader_type en cya_top_tour races (mapping in percentages?) |
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| TankNL |
Posted on 28-02-2012 22:34
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Ok, I have edited a lot of the program_info file.
https://dl.dropbox...ation.xlsx
In the excel you can alter races (race id's) in columns F to K and columns T to X will turn up green if the race date is in the correct month. don't have the overlapping of the races programmed yet (could be done if anybody wants). In column B the gene_ilist_fkIDrace is filled automaticly. So if you would copy columns A to C to STA_program_info, than you're ready to go.
Feel free to comment, or post your version of STA_program_info.
Edited by TankNL on 28-02-2012 22:34
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| TankNL |
Posted on 28-02-2012 23:21
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The pain seems to be in the end of the year, where the Vuelta is overlapping the Vattenfall Cyclassics en Plouay and in and Lombardia is in September instead of October
Edited by TankNL on 29-02-2012 07:32
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 29-02-2012 18:39
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TankNL wrote:
I'm a bit more sceptical then you are. I haven't seen many updates of these parts in the database over the last few years. In my view the only do a minimal setup and I think theres more to gain from these tables.
I'm thinking of redoing them like Ruben does and will post them here for comment and directions 
Tbh I had never seen it this way. I do still think that it's right (=there's a reason) for why only 7 type of leaders appear in STA_program, so that shouldn't be touched (which would also keep the realism, as I already said). But maybe it's true that STA_program_info could be bettered. As I told in my first post here, I'm not an expert in these tables, so I might have been wrong indeed.
You seem very determined, so good luck in this work
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-02-2012 20:14
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STA_program_info is outdated - that's for sure. As Tank already said, there's race IDs in there which no longer exist. So not even Cyanide is making this correctly which thus also makes this harder for everyone else.
As a DB-maker myself, I could go and do what Tank is doing now, but with all the other DB-work there's simply not time to change too much considering the relatively low "pay-out" - honestly, race dates don't matter too much in my opinion. Especially not in 2012 where everything is messed up due to the Olympics.
That being said, I appreciate what you're doing, Tank (you should know that by now  ), and I'm looking forward to see what you're able to pull off. |
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Posted on 29-02-2012 22:47
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Thanks CrueTrue, just happy to help.
@Ruben; do you have a suggestion for august? |
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| TankNL |
Posted on 01-03-2012 18:39
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Guys or Girls, with cycling knowledge, I need your help.
https://dl.dropbox...ation.xlsx
In the file above, there is a tab called "aug - sept - okt" in this sheet you'll find options / scenario's that i find logica to combine for the cyclist to use as a program. for example in august; only ride the Vuelta, or another variant ride the Vuelta a Burgos than Clasica Ciclista San Sebastian en than the Vuelta...
I don't need all the options, I just want the program's that you see doable, or likely for the cyclists (World Tour level). You would help me allot if you would edit the Excel and post it here, or give your examples of the months in this forum.
I will use those scenario's in the program_info in order to get realistic starting lineups. keep in mind that i used PCMDaily as the reference database, so it could be that you are missing races...
Please leave a message if your interested.
Edited by TankNL on 01-03-2012 23:15
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| TankNL |
Posted on 05-03-2012 18:57
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Hmm, i'm not getting a lot of reactions here. Might give it another try. If you are a team director and you have a potential TdF winner in your team. What would be his race program? Let say: Evans, Schleck, Contador, Gesink or Nibali. Every program would be different right? so, what combinations do you guys see?
What if I would create a database (based on PCMDaily2012v1 and I would alter the calendar (already have that) + an new program_info inside. Are there any volunteers that would like to run some test for me? |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 05-03-2012 19:08
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It's a pity that the community doesn't seem to have a lot of interest on these things (the same thing happened when you started the other thread about popularity and NCs). But I'm sure that there are some people (who understand more of this) who are hoping that you can be successful in recreating these tables (put me in this list)
Btw, don't forget that you can't simply ask a 'normal' person what races would he send his rider in. First, it can't be compared to real life, since PCM has a good fitness limit of 60 days, while riders ride much more irl; second, I don't know what you've got up with your 'experiments' in these tables, but, for example, only the big races appear as specific races for specific types of leaders? So you need some knowledge to answer how could the program be.
I would like to help with the tests, but unfortunately I don't have enough time  But for this I think you can find volunteers easier than with the programs
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| TankNL |
Posted on 05-03-2012 19:37
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lluuiiggii wrote:
It's a pity that the community doesn't seem to have a lot of interest on these things (the same thing happened when you started the other thread about popularity and NCs). But I'm sure that there are some people (who understand more of this) who are hoping that you can be successful in recreating these tables (put me in this list)
lol lluuiiggii, the community is using it if the use PCMDaily2012v1 I've given CrueTrue all the source_codes and an update for the dyn_cyclist table. So I know its not all for nothing
And as stated before, I'm doing it for myself, and want to share it with you guys (and girls) here. I was just hoping for some support, but I think that it would be best if I would upload a database so hopefully you can help me with exports of race participations.
lluuiiggii wrote:
I would like to help with the tests, but unfortunately I don't have enough time But for this I think you can find volunteers easier than with the programs
You've done more that enough (along with Ruben) by replying in this thread, or else I would have stopped posting my progress and products. so thank you for that. |
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Posted on 05-03-2012 19:41
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TankNL wrote:
lol lluuiiggii, the community is using it if the use PCMDaily2012v1 I've given CrueTrue all the source_codes and an update for the dyn_cyclist table. So I know its not all for nothing
I expressed myself badly: they don't seem to have lot of interest on the creation of these things. Obviously everybody is interested in the fun part
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| TankNL |
Posted on 05-03-2012 20:34
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lluuiiggii wrote:
First, it can't be compared to real life, since PCM has a good fitness limit of 60 days, while riders ride much more irl;
this triggered me, do you know how the fitness limit of 60 days is calculated? is that just race days, or race days in a certain period? |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 05-03-2012 20:40
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TankNL wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
First, it can't be compared to real life, since PCM has a good fitness limit of 60 days, while riders ride much more irl;
this triggered me, do you know how the fitness limit of 60 days is calculated? is that just race days, or race days in a certain period?
Race days. After the 60th race day of the season, each 2 race days take out 1 max fitness point (from 'race fitness' ).
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| TankNL |
Posted on 07-03-2012 19:41
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I think I have a raw version for you guys to test.
I've updated the following;
STA_race
STA_stage
STA_program
STA_program_info
STA_type_leader_specialisation
I need some testers to sim or play though the season and see if the participation (and therefore results) in the races is correct. Can somebody help me please?
I've used the PCMDaily as the basis, so no extra files are needed, only this database;
https://dl.dropbox...TankNL.cdb
Thanks in advance.
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Posted on 07-03-2012 19:42
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Next improvements for me are the missing races in my calender;
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start end name country class league
9-3-2012 9-3-2012 Dwars door Drenthe NED 1.1 Europe Tour
10-3-2012 16-3-2012 Tour de Taiwan TPE 2.1 Asia Tour
16-3-2012 16-3-2012 Handzame Classic BEL 1.1 Europe Tour
17-3-2012 17-3-2012 Classic Loire Atlantique FRA 1.1 Europe Tour
25-3-2012 25-3-2012 Tour de India III (at the city of Mumbai) IND 1.1 Asia Tour
1-4-2012 1-4-2012 Flèche d'Emeraude - Saint Malo FRA 1.1 Europe Tour
1-4-2012 1-4-2012 Tour de India II (at City of Delhi NCR) IND 1.1 Asia Tour
24-4-2012 29-4-2012 La Tropicale Amissa Bongo (Tabo) GAB 2.1 Africa Tour
29-4-2012 29-4-2012 Trophée des Grimpeurs Polymultipliée FRA 1.1 Europe Tour
1-5-2012 1-5-2012 Subida al Naranco ESP 1.1 Europe Tour
4-5-2012 6-5-2012 Szlakiem Grodòw Piastowskich POL 2.1 Europe Tour
5-5-2012 6-5-2012 Vuelta a la Comunidad de Madrid ESP 2.1 Europe Tour
13-5-2012 13-5-2012 Rogaland GP NOR 1.1 Europe Tour
19-5-2012 19-5-2012 Jurmala GP LAT 1.1 Europe Tour
20-5-2012 20-5-2012 Sparkassen "neuseenclassics-rund um die braunkohle" GER 1.1 Europe Tour
25-5-2012 25-5-2012 Tallinn-Tartu Grand Prix EST 1.1 Europe Tour
2-6-2012 2-6-2012 TD Bank International Cycling Championship USA 1.HC America Tour
4-7-2012 8-7-2012 Course Cycliste de Solidarnosc et des Champions Olympiques POL 2.1 Europe Tour
15-7-2012 15-7-2012 Mooi Friesland NED 1.1 Europe Tour
18-7-2012 22-7-2012 Sachsen-Tour International GER 2.1 Europe Tour
3-8-2012 5-8-2012 Tour of Elk Grove USA 2.1 America Tour
7-8-2012 12-8-2012 Tour of Utah USA 2.1 America Tour
19-8-2012 19-8-2012 Châteauroux Classic de l'Indre Trophée Fenioux FRA 1.1 Europe Tour
21-8-2012 24-8-2012 Tour du Poitou Charentes, Charente, Charente Maritime, deux sèvres, Vienne FRA 2.1 Europe Tour
23-8-2012 23-8-2012 GP Industria Commercio Artigianato Carnaghese ITA 1.1 Europe Tour
31-8-2012 1-9-2012 World Ports Classic NED 2.1 Europe Tour
3-9-2012 6-9-2012 Giro di Padania ITA 2.1 Europe Tour
7-9-2012 17-9-2012 Tour of China CHN 2.1 Asia Tour
14-9-2012 14-9-2012 Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen BEL 1.1 Europe Tour
15-9-2012 15-9-2012 GP Impanis - Van Petegem BEL 1.1 Europe Tour
22-9-2012 22-9-2012 Franco Ballerini Day ITA 1.1 Europe Tour
30-9-2012 30-9-2012 Duo Normand FRA 1.1 Europe Tour
9-10-2012 9-10-2012 Nationale Sluitingprijs - Putte - Kapellen BEL 1.1 Europe Tour
And updating the fitness profiles and the usage of them in STA_type_leader_specialisation
Edited by TankNL on 07-03-2012 23:37
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| TankNL |
Posted on 07-03-2012 20:05
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I found a little error (forgot the force pro tour for E3 prijs)
corrected that now in the liked file above.
Edited by TankNL on 07-03-2012 20:05
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Posted on 07-03-2012 22:40
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Found another 1 in Settimana Ciclistica Lombarda (Stage 4 was in the next month. fixed that. |
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| TankNL |
Posted on 07-03-2012 23:08
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argh.... another big flaw... the Vuelta had a bug in stage 12 en 13.. also corrected... hope its good now.
Could use some feedback and test results..
my TdF result (from simmed carreer)
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1 Alberto Contador Team Saxo Bank 85h20'00
2 Andy Schleck RadioShack - Nissan + 5'10
3 Vincenzo Nibali Liquigas - Cannondale + 7'56
4 Robert Gesink Rabobank Cycling Team + 10'33
5 Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team + 11'29
6 Fränk Schleck RadioShack - Nissan + 15'37
7 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 16'43
8 Bradley Wiggins Sky Procycling + 18'08
9 Levi Leipheimer Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 19'34 TankNL
10 Denis Menchov Katusha Team + 21'24
11 Steven Kruijswijk Rabobank Cycling Team + 21'54
12 Bauke Mollema Rabobank Cycling Team + 23'11
13 Michele Scarponi Lampre - ISD + 23'38
14 Roman Kreuziger Astana Pro Team + 29'33
15 Jurgen Van den Broeck Lotto Belisol Team + 30'23
16 Alexandre Vinokourov Astana Pro Team + 30'26
17 Christian Vande Velde Garmin - Barracuda + 33'45
18 Philippe Gilbert BMC Racing Team + 34'31
19 Luis León Sánchez Rabobank Cycling Team + 37'39
20 John Gadret AG2R La Mondiale + 39'06
21 Jean-Christophe Peraud AG2R La Mondiale + 42'15
22 Michael Rogers Sky Procycling + 42'56
23 Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team + 43'52
24 Christophe Kern Team Europcar + 45'17
25 Richie Porte Sky Procycling + 47'07
26 Jakob Fuglsang RadioShack - Nissan + 51'28
27 Rigoberto Urán Sky Procycling + 52'22
28 Pierre Rolland Team Europcar + 52'36
29 Ryder Hesjedal Garmin - Barracuda + 53'30
30 Linus Gerdemann RadioShack - Nissan + 55'29
31 Thomas Voeckler Team Europcar + 55'51
32 Chris Froome Sky Procycling + 57'21
33 David Moncoutié Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 58'37
34 Kevin De Weert Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 58'56 TankNL
35 Jérôme Coppel Saur - Sojasun + 59'47
36 Tony Martin Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 59'55 TankNL
37 Tom Danielson Garmin - Barracuda + 1h01'18
38 Edvald Boasson Hagen Sky Procycling + 1h04'55
39 Fabian Cancellara RadioShack - Nissan + 1h05'47
40 Pierrick Fédrigo FDJ - BigMat + 1h06'58
41 David Arroyo Movistar Team + 1h07'42
42 Nicolas Vogondy Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 1h07'49
43 Vladimir Karpets Movistar Team + 1h12'46
44 Maxime Monfort RadioShack - Nissan + 1h13'07
45 Brice Feillu Saur - Sojasun + 1h15'38
46 Thor Hushovd BMC Racing Team + 1h15'49
47 Peter Sagan Liquigas - Cannondale + 1h15'52
48 José Joaquín Rojas Movistar Team + 1h17'48
49 Leonardo Duque Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 1h20'05
50 Sandy Casar FDJ - BigMat + 1h20'10
51 Mikel Nieve Euskaltel - Euskadi + 1h25'03
52 Maxim Iglinskiy Astana Pro Team + 1h26'43
53 Sylvain Chavanel Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 1h29'18 TankNL
54 Christophe Riblon AG2R La Mondiale + 1h30'30
55 Michael Albasini GreenEdge Cycling Team + 1h30'39
56 Diego Ulissi Lampre - ISD + 1h32'31
57 Marzio Bruseghin Movistar Team + 1h33'22
58 Thomas Dekker Garmin - Barracuda + 1h33'32
59 Pablo Lastras Movistar Team + 1h35'22
60 Jonathan Hivert Saur - Sojasun + 1h36'01
61 Thomas De Gendt Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 1h36'14
62 Cyril Gautier Team Europcar + 1h40'28
63 Romain Sicard Euskaltel - Euskadi + 1h44'48
64 Carlos Barredo Rabobank Cycling Team + 1h46'53
65 Ángel Vicioso Katusha Team + 1h47'44
66 Dimitriy Muravyev Astana Pro Team s.t.
67 Vladimir Gusev Katusha Team + 1h49'17
68 Alessandro Ballan BMC Racing Team + 1h49'44
69 Dario Cataldo Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 1h50'17 TankNL
70 Stuart O'Grady GreenEdge Cycling Team + 1h50'42
71 Damien Monier Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 1h51'15
72 Sergey Lagutin Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 1h51'58
73 Johan Vansummeren Garmin - Barracuda + 1h53'45
74 Benoît Vaugrenard FDJ - BigMat + 1h57'16
75 Anthony Charteau Team Europcar + 1h59'31
76 Egoi Martínez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 2h01'16
77 Morris Possoni Lampre - ISD + 2h01'43
78 Jelle Vanendert Lotto Belisol Team + 2h03'07
79 Vladimir Miholjevic Acqua & Sapone + 2h03'36
80 Heinrich Haussler Garmin - Barracuda + 2h14'47
81 Samuel Dumoulin Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 2h15'06
82 Rafal Majka Team Saxo Bank + 2h16'05
83 Stefan Denifl Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 2h16'09
84 Mikhail Ignatiev Katusha Team + 2h16'58
85 Rémy Di Gregorio Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 2h17'45
86 Frederik Willems Lotto Belisol Team + 2h18'10
87 Valerio Agnoli Liquigas - Cannondale + 2h19'14
88 Anders Lund Team Saxo Bank + 2h21'24
89 Björn Leukemans Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 2h24'47
90 Matti Breschel Rabobank Cycling Team + 2h27'09
91 Juan Antonio Flecha Sky Procycling + 2h27'24
92 Lars Ytting Bak Lotto Belisol Team + 2h28'21
93 Romain Feillu Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 2h28'30
94 George Hincapie BMC Racing Team + 2h29'14
95 Javier Moreno Movistar Team + 2h30'39
96 Mikel Landa Euskaltel - Euskadi + 2h36'04
97 Dmitriy Fofonov Astana Pro Team + 2h36'56
98 Davide Malacarne Team Europcar + 2h36'57
99 Fabrice Jeandesboz Saur - Sojasun + 2h42'43
100 Gorka Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi + 2h47'38
101 Tom Boonen Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 2h49'35 TankNL
102 Juan José Oroz Euskaltel - Euskadi + 2h50'17
103 Manuele Mori Lampre - ISD + 2h54'40
104 Nick Nuyens Team Saxo Bank + 2h56'22
105 Rubén Pérez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 2h56'31
106 Alessandro Petacchi Lampre - ISD + 2h58'19
107 Manuel Quinziato BMC Racing Team + 3h02'54
108 Mikaël Chérel AG2R La Mondiale + 3h03'09
109 Ángel Madrazo Movistar Team + 3h05'00
110 Mads Christensen Team Saxo Bank + 3h07'26
111 Iván Velasco Euskaltel - Euskadi + 3h07'39
112 Paolo Tiralongo Astana Pro Team + 3h08'07
113 Lars Boom Rabobank Cycling Team + 3h12'02
114 Andrea Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone + 3h14'20
115 Anthony Roux FDJ - BigMat + 3h17'09
116 Cyril Lemoine Saur - Sojasun + 3h28'01
117 Matthew Lloyd Lampre - ISD + 3h31'31
118 David Millar Garmin - Barracuda + 3h35'57
119 Michael Schär BMC Racing Team + 3h37'44
120 Mark Cavendish Sky Procycling + 3h38'02
121 Aleksejs Saramotins Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 3h40'03
122 Óscar Freire Katusha Team + 3h41'41
123 Pavel Brutt Katusha Team + 3h45'57
124 Daryl Impey GreenEdge Cycling Team + 3h48'38
125 Koldo Fernández Garmin - Barracuda + 3h50'09
126 Allan Davis GreenEdge Cycling Team + 3h50'59
127 Mitchell Docker GreenEdge Cycling Team + 3h54'38
128 Martin Elmiger AG2R La Mondiale + 3h58'01
129 Niki Terpstra Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 3h58'31 TankNL
130 Danilo Hondo Lampre - ISD + 4h01'34
131 William Bonnet FDJ - BigMat + 4h01'56
132 Alessandro Proni Acqua & Sapone + 4h02'22
133 Gerald Ciolek Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 4h02'40 TankNL
134 Imanol Erviti Movistar Team + 4h07'17
135 Jürgen Van de Walle Lotto Belisol Team + 4h10'21
136 Francesco Gavazzi Astana Pro Team + 4h10'53
137 Fabio Taborre Acqua & Sapone + 4h11'33
138 Egoitz García Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 4h13'23
139 Assan Bazayev Astana Pro Team + 4h14'58
140 Marco Marcato Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 4h15'10
141 Michael Mørkøv Team Saxo Bank + 4h16'22
142 Pim Ligthart Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 4h18'06
143 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team + 4h18'19
144 Karsten Kroon Team Saxo Bank + 4h19'27
145 Maarten Tjallingii Rabobank Cycling Team + 4h19'37
146 Sebastian Langeveld GreenEdge Cycling Team + 4h22'35
147 Tosh Van der Sande Lotto Belisol Team + 4h24'22
148 Manuel Belletti AG2R La Mondiale + 4h25'56
149 Martin Velits Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 4h26'12 TankNL
150 Sébastien Turgot Team Europcar + 4h29'40
151 Yukiya Arashiro Team Europcar + 4h29'48
152 Ruggero Marzoli Acqua & Sapone + 4h31'05
153 Frédéric Guesdon FDJ - BigMat + 4h31'06
154 Tomas Vaitkus GreenEdge Cycling Team + 4h33'14
155 Troels Ronning Vinther Team Saxo Bank + 4h33'49
156 Cyril Bessy Saur - Sojasun + 4h34'26
157 Brett Lancaster GreenEdge Cycling Team + 4h37'31
158 Alexander Kvachuk Lampre - ISD + 4h37'53
159 Yohan Offredo FDJ - BigMat + 4h39'49
160 Fabio Sabatini Liquigas - Cannondale + 4h42'56
161 Cameron Meyer GreenEdge Cycling Team + 4h46'55
162 Moreno Moser Liquigas - Cannondale + 4h47'23
163 Juan José Haedo Team Saxo Bank + 4h47'27
164 Vladimir Isaychev Katusha Team + 4h48'26
165 Mahdi Sohrabi Lotto Belisol Team + 4h49'17
166 Wouter Mol Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 4h49'45
167 Jean-Marc Marino Saur - Sojasun + 4h50'42
168 André Greipel Lotto Belisol Team + 4h50'57
169 Arthur Vichot FDJ - BigMat + 4h51'26
170 Alessandro Donati Acqua & Sapone + 4h52'47
171 Valentin Iglinskiy Astana Pro Team + 4h54'18
172 Paolo Longo Borghini Liquigas - Cannondale + 4h54'19
173 Adrien Petit Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 4h54'40
174 Taylor Phinney BMC Racing Team + 4h54'43
175 Jimmy Engoulvent Saur - Sojasun + 4h54'44
176 Sébastien Chavanel Team Europcar + 4h55'38
177 Juraj Sagan Liquigas - Cannondale + 4h55'44
178 Daniele Bennati RadioShack - Nissan + 4h56'39
179 Jimmy Casper AG2R La Mondiale + 4h57'14
180 Rüdiger Selig Katusha Team + 4h59'04
181 Graeme Brown Rabobank Cycling Team + 5h02'13
182 Massimo Graziato Lampre - ISD + 5h02'33
183 Kris Boeckmans Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 5h03'36
184 Jens Debusschere Lotto Belisol Team + 5h07'15
185 Paolo Ciavatta Acqua & Sapone + 5h08'06
186 Claudio Corioni Acqua & Sapone + 5h08'07
187 Edward King Liquigas - Cannondale + 5h08'55
188 Francesco Di Paolo Acqua & Sapone + 5h15'35
189 Francis Mourey FDJ - BigMat + 5h18'32
190 Rony Martias Saur - Sojasun + 5h19'41
TdF started on 30-6 and now also has a good participation and even therefore a realistic top10 :)
Edited by TankNL on 07-03-2012 23:21
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Posted on 08-03-2012 16:45
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Only just saw this thread now - good looking work so far.
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It's more interesting to see the results from races such as Giro and Vuelta - and also minor races such as Het Nieuwsblad.
It's difficult to mess up TdF's participation |
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