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| florian96 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:28
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marble wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
French telly says 57:03 for the whole Ventoux today by Froome, which would be 409 W (for 70 kg ? or is that his actual Watts ?).
Anyway, the threshold of credibility are about 430 W/20 minute, 410 W/40-45 minutes and 390 W/60 minutes.
5 % above.
2004 Dauphine there was a Mont Ventoux ITT, Armstrong rode the entire Mont Ventoux there in 57:49. You can say it was the Dauphine and all that stuff to explain why it's slower, but still. Today they had a tough 220km at fast pace before the climb even. Would like to see the last 15.65km time of Froome today so I could properly compare it to the TdF times over the years though (can't find a list of the full climb times, help me  ).
Mayo had a full time of 55:51 when he won that ITT in the Dauphine, that was a time of 45:47 over the last 15.65km. Pantani's record in the TdF is 46:00. Armstrong rode the last 15.65km in 48:33 in 2002 and 49:00 in 2009.
I stopped the time when Chavanel had been around the St. Esteve corner 15.65 km to go minus 1:20 he was in front of the peloton and got a time of 48:25. And as I have seen on TV they had crosswind on the last 2-3 km's. |
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| spassermongol |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:29
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:33
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florian96 wrote:
marble wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
French telly says 57:03 for the whole Ventoux today by Froome, which would be 409 W (for 70 kg ? or is that his actual Watts ?).
Anyway, the threshold of credibility are about 430 W/20 minute, 410 W/40-45 minutes and 390 W/60 minutes.
5 % above.
2004 Dauphine there was a Mont Ventoux ITT, Armstrong rode the entire Mont Ventoux there in 57:49. You can say it was the Dauphine and all that stuff to explain why it's slower, but still. Today they had a tough 220km at fast pace before the climb even. Would like to see the last 15.65km time of Froome today so I could properly compare it to the TdF times over the years though (can't find a list of the full climb times, help me ).
Mayo had a full time of 55:51 when he won that ITT in the Dauphine, that was a time of 45:47 over the last 15.65km. Pantani's record in the TdF is 46:00. Armstrong rode the last 15.65km in 48:33 in 2002 and 49:00 in 2009.
I stopped the time when Chavanel had been around the St. Esteve corner 15.65 km to go minus 1:20 he was in front of the peloton and got a time of 48:25. And as I have seen on TV they had crosswind on the last 2-3 km's.
So, 1.30 faster than Armstrong in 2002? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:35
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I have a solution for the doping problem.
After every stage, the yellow jersey wearer is fed through an industrial meat mincer.
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| florian96 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:37
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Riis123 wrote:
florian96 wrote:
marble wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
French telly says 57:03 for the whole Ventoux today by Froome, which would be 409 W (for 70 kg ? or is that his actual Watts ?).
Anyway, the threshold of credibility are about 430 W/20 minute, 410 W/40-45 minutes and 390 W/60 minutes.
5 % above.
2004 Dauphine there was a Mont Ventoux ITT, Armstrong rode the entire Mont Ventoux there in 57:49. You can say it was the Dauphine and all that stuff to explain why it's slower, but still. Today they had a tough 220km at fast pace before the climb even. Would like to see the last 15.65km time of Froome today so I could properly compare it to the TdF times over the years though (can't find a list of the full climb times, help me ).
Mayo had a full time of 55:51 when he won that ITT in the Dauphine, that was a time of 45:47 over the last 15.65km. Pantani's record in the TdF is 46:00. Armstrong rode the last 15.65km in 48:33 in 2002 and 49:00 in 2009.
I stopped the time when Chavanel had been around the St. Esteve corner 15.65 km to go minus 1:20 he was in front of the peloton and got a time of 48:25. And as I have seen on TV they had crosswind on the last 2-3 km's.
So, 1.30 faster than Armstrong in 2002?
No, Froomes time is around 48:25.
Edited by florian96 on 14-07-2013 18:39
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| cosmic |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:39
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Riis123 wrote:
florian96 wrote:
marble wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
French telly says 57:03 for the whole Ventoux today by Froome, which would be 409 W (for 70 kg ? or is that his actual Watts ?).
Anyway, the threshold of credibility are about 430 W/20 minute, 410 W/40-45 minutes and 390 W/60 minutes.
5 % above.
2004 Dauphine there was a Mont Ventoux ITT, Armstrong rode the entire Mont Ventoux there in 57:49. You can say it was the Dauphine and all that stuff to explain why it's slower, but still. Today they had a tough 220km at fast pace before the climb even. Would like to see the last 15.65km time of Froome today so I could properly compare it to the TdF times over the years though (can't find a list of the full climb times, help me ).
Mayo had a full time of 55:51 when he won that ITT in the Dauphine, that was a time of 45:47 over the last 15.65km. Pantani's record in the TdF is 46:00. Armstrong rode the last 15.65km in 48:33 in 2002 and 49:00 in 2009.
I stopped the time when Chavanel had been around the St. Esteve corner 15.65 km to go minus 1:20 he was in front of the peloton and got a time of 48:25. And as I have seen on TV they had crosswind on the last 2-3 km's.
So, 1.30 faster than Armstrong in 2002?
No, roughly in the same area as Armstrong in 2002. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:39
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florian96 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
florian96 wrote:
marble wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
French telly says 57:03 for the whole Ventoux today by Froome, which would be 409 W (for 70 kg ? or is that his actual Watts ?).
Anyway, the threshold of credibility are about 430 W/20 minute, 410 W/40-45 minutes and 390 W/60 minutes.
5 % above.
2004 Dauphine there was a Mont Ventoux ITT, Armstrong rode the entire Mont Ventoux there in 57:49. You can say it was the Dauphine and all that stuff to explain why it's slower, but still. Today they had a tough 220km at fast pace before the climb even. Would like to see the last 15.65km time of Froome today so I could properly compare it to the TdF times over the years though (can't find a list of the full climb times, help me ).
Mayo had a full time of 55:51 when he won that ITT in the Dauphine, that was a time of 45:47 over the last 15.65km. Pantani's record in the TdF is 46:00. Armstrong rode the last 15.65km in 48:33 in 2002 and 49:00 in 2009.
I stopped the time when Chavanel had been around the St. Esteve corner 15.65 km to go minus 1:20 he was in front of the peloton and got a time of 48:25. And as I have seen on TV they had crosswind on the last 2-3 km's.
So, 1.30 faster than Armstrong in 2002?
No, Froomes time is 48:25.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:40
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For those of you who a few pages back were speaking of Bolt and Jamaican sprinters being 'proof of natural talent' or something, 4 jamaicans tested positive. Two are olympic medallist sprinters.
No names revealed yet.
Tyson Gay has also tested positive. Again.
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| Matthew21rp |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:41
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SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:42
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Matthew21rp wrote:
SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure they shower regularly, yes
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| dienblad |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:42
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Matthew21rp wrote:
SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great, another fanboy.
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| HKK |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:45
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It's like....NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
Hello to familar ones from the past. |
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| florian96 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:46
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issoisso wrote:
For those of you who a few pages back were speaking of Bolt and Jamaican sprinters being 'proof of natural talent' or something, 4 jamaicans tested positive. Two are olympic medallist sprinters.
No names revealed yet.
Tyson Gay has also tested positive. Again.
I felt there was something in the air, this year he was running better than ever. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:46
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Spilak23 wrote:
Matthew21rp wrote:
SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes because they took showers this morning
Thanks, my little imitation monkey
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| Selwink |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:47
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Matthew21rp wrote:
SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was thinking of reacting to this with something serious, but its too funny
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:47
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issoisso wrote:
Matthew21rp wrote:
SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure they shower regularly, yes
Not only do they wash themselves, it also seems they wash other people's brains too
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| ruben |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:49
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Matthew21rp wrote:
SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And monkeys can fly. And I can win the Tour on extreme with Cavendish |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:50
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issoisso wrote:
Matthew21rp wrote:
SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure they shower regularly, yes
Loving this answer |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:51
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issoisso wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Matthew21rp wrote:
SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes because they took showers this morning
Thanks, my little imitation monkey
You imitated Brian Holm
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:00
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Spilak23 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Matthew21rp wrote:
SKY ARE CLEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes because they took showers this morning
Thanks, my little imitation monkey
You imitated Brian Holm
He spoke out? 
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