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Giro d'Italia 2013 - Week 3
Jesleyh
admirschleck wrote:
I am becoming Jesleyh,he wanted finishing in breakaway group,but he didnt want to lose energy in case that they catch them. I am sure that he will let one of them winning if they came to the finish line. Wink

Stop saying that every time, there are more people like me Pfft

And I'm becoming less Gesink fan(well, never was really a fan) by the minute.
It was good that he finally tried to attack though.
Stage-win should be the goal for Blanco the rest of the Giro.

Fight for white is interesting indeed. I don't see Betancur having no problems, Majka really impressed me. Betancur might be able to take more time in the 'more explosive' finishes, while I can see Majka winning time in the MTT, and maybe the long mountain stages(Stage 19, iirc?).
Well, not sure, my point is that it won't be too easy for Betancur.
Edited by Jesleyh on 20-05-2013 10:36
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Pellizotti2
Jesleyh wrote:
Fight for white is interesting indeed. I don't see Betancur having no problems, Majka really impressed me. Betancur might be able to take more time in the 'more explosive' finishes, while I can see Majka winning time in the MTT, and maybe the long mountain stages(Stage 19, iirc?).

Stage 19 is a pathetic 139 km. Don't expect much to happen there.

Tre Cime is the last opportunity to make any big differences. Betancur should have the jersey wrapped up. Wouldn't surprise me if he beats Majka in the MTT as well. Even though it might not suit him as well as Jafferau or Tre Cime, he's still the 2nd best climber in the race after Nibali, if you ask me.
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Spilak23
Betancur has some bad luck with the route aswell. Every Giro there are like 2 or 3 finishes on some sort of wall. (Assisi, Tropea) And this year none

Vuelta took them all probably
Edited by Spilak23 on 20-05-2013 10:50
 
Ian Butler
PCM rulezz wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Aaaand Sporza will be airing the rest day today. That's right, with images of massages and other things, Sporza will be having two commentators talk about the Giro, the riders and how they're recuperating and whatnot. Brilliant Pfft


Is that true? I doubt it.


Now I'm starting to doubt. I based this on an on-line article tweeted by Renaat Schotte. But on één and Canvas there isn't a broadcast planned, so maybe it'll be on the radio Sporza. Not sure. It's strange, though

https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/05/20/...tdag-giro/

EDIT: I'm starting to suspect the site is a fake-news one, though, like the onion. Only it doesn't say that on the site, which should be obligatory.

So probably not true. Very strange that Renaat Schotte should tweet it then, though.
Edited by Ian Butler on 20-05-2013 13:41
 
fosforgasXIII
Ian Butler wrote:
PCM rulezz wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Aaaand Sporza will be airing the rest day today. That's right, with images of massages and other things, Sporza will be having two commentators talk about the Giro, the riders and how they're recuperating and whatnot. Brilliant Pfft


Is that true? I doubt it.


Now I'm starting to doubt. I based this on an on-line article tweeted by Renaat Schotte. But on één and Canvas there isn't a broadcast planned, so maybe it'll be on the radio Sporza. Not sure. It's strange, though

https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/05/20/...tdag-giro/

EDIT: I'm starting to suspect the site is a fake-news one, though, like the onion. Only it doesn't say that on the site, which should be obligatory.

So probably not true. Very strange that Renaat Schotte should tweet it then, though.


De Rechtzetting is a satirical news site with fake news, a bit like the Onion, but you're not the first one who gets mislead by this. A few months ago there was a lot of commotion about an article where minister Schauvliege announced that concerts and parties with "loud and heavy" music genres like rock, metal, dance, DnB etc. should be illegal. Most people didn't notice it was fake :lol:
Edited by fosforgasXIII on 20-05-2013 14:51
 
Guido Mukk
Just read Robert Millar article at Cyclingnews..

https://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robe...l-training

Why to race with such weather...New guys are like Zomegan already etc.
Get over it..that Wighins got sick and have to go home. Do not listen Cavendish whining. There is still 180 guys who are racing. Weather is bad for anyone.
Giro flat rainy first week has beaten several TdF last years tours.
He is correct about one thing..If you are fit. You van take it more easily.

To Cav and Wiggo. Giro as high mountains and snow also there usualy. Next time take tour California or just race at Tour of Qatar. Nice warm place with slim possibilty for rain.
Giro is best.
 
Ian Butler
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
PCM rulezz wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Aaaand Sporza will be airing the rest day today. That's right, with images of massages and other things, Sporza will be having two commentators talk about the Giro, the riders and how they're recuperating and whatnot. Brilliant Pfft


Is that true? I doubt it.


Now I'm starting to doubt. I based this on an on-line article tweeted by Renaat Schotte. But on één and Canvas there isn't a broadcast planned, so maybe it'll be on the radio Sporza. Not sure. It's strange, though

https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/05/20/...tdag-giro/

EDIT: I'm starting to suspect the site is a fake-news one, though, like the onion. Only it doesn't say that on the site, which should be obligatory.

So probably not true. Very strange that Renaat Schotte should tweet it then, though.


De Rechtzetting is a satirical news site with fake news, a bit like the Onion, but you're not the first one who gets mislead by this. A few months ago there was a lot of commotion about an article where minister Schauvliege announced that concerts and parties with "loud and heavy" music genres like rock, metal, dance, DnB etc. should be illegal. Most people didn't notice it was fake :lol:


Well, I can appreciate such sites, but in their section "about De Rechtzetting", they should really confirm this. Instead, they just say they're a news site which really tells the truth.
 
kumazan
Ian Butler wrote:
Aaaand Sporza will be airing the rest day today. That's right, with images of massages and other things, Sporza will be having two commentators talk about the Giro, the riders and how they're recuperating and whatnot. Brilliant Pfft


Logical step taken by the Belgians (who else?). Rest days are where the GTs are won, even if the biopassport has made them lose importance. Pfft

Pellizotti2 wrote:
Stage 19 is a pathetic 139 km. Don't expect much to happen there.

Tre Cime is the last opportunity to make any big differences. Betancur should have the jersey wrapped up. Wouldn't surprise me if he beats Majka in the MTT as well. Even though it might not suit him as well as Jafferau or Tre Cime, he's still the 2nd best climber in the race after Nibali, if you ask me.


While I'm always the first to complain about short stages, you just can't underestimate how hard a stage with a Stelvio - Gavia combo (plus Val Martello, which is no joke even if it pales in comparison with its neighbours) can be if ridden hard. It's a big if, specially with the stage to Tre Cime being the next day, but one can hope.
 
Spilak23
Bennatis best performence this Giro:


 
fosforgasXIII
Spilak23 wrote:
Bennatis best performence this Giro:



Made me think of this.

 
fosforgasXIII
Ian Butler wrote:
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
PCM rulezz wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Aaaand Sporza will be airing the rest day today. That's right, with images of massages and other things, Sporza will be having two commentators talk about the Giro, the riders and how they're recuperating and whatnot. Brilliant Pfft


Is that true? I doubt it.


Now I'm starting to doubt. I based this on an on-line article tweeted by Renaat Schotte. But on één and Canvas there isn't a broadcast planned, so maybe it'll be on the radio Sporza. Not sure. It's strange, though

https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/05/20/...tdag-giro/

EDIT: I'm starting to suspect the site is a fake-news one, though, like the onion. Only it doesn't say that on the site, which should be obligatory.

So probably not true. Very strange that Renaat Schotte should tweet it then, though.


De Rechtzetting is a satirical news site with fake news, a bit like the Onion, but you're not the first one who gets mislead by this. A few months ago there was a lot of commotion about an article where minister Schauvliege announced that concerts and parties with "loud and heavy" music genres like rock, metal, dance, DnB etc. should be illegal. Most people didn't notice it was fake :lol:


Well, I can appreciate such sites, but in their section "about De Rechtzetting", they should really confirm this. Instead, they just say they're a news site which really tells the truth.


If you look at some other articles, I think it's obvious enough.
https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/03/28/...ners/#read
https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/03/13/...rdel/#read
https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/03/07/...kans/#read
 
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Pellizotti2
kumazan wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Stage 19 is a pathetic 139 km. Don't expect much to happen there.

Tre Cime is the last opportunity to make any big differences. Betancur should have the jersey wrapped up. Wouldn't surprise me if he beats Majka in the MTT as well. Even though it might not suit him as well as Jafferau or Tre Cime, he's still the 2nd best climber in the race after Nibali, if you ask me.


While I'm always the first to complain about short stages, you just can't underestimate how hard a stage with a Stelvio - Gavia combo (plus Val Martello, which is no joke even if it pales in comparison with its neighbours) can be if ridden hard. It's a big if, specially with the stage to Tre Cime being the next day, but one can hope.

Obviously, but the long flat section between the end of the Stelvio descent and the foot of the final climb eliminates all hopes of the stage being ridden hard from the beginning, imo.
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kumazan
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Obviously, but the long flat section between the end of the Stelvio descent and the foot of the final climb eliminates all hopes of the stage being ridden hard from the beginning, imo.


Only 20km, part of them downhill, so not that long. And we all remember what happened last year in a longer flat section between Mortirolo and Stelvio. Of course that flat section is far from ideal, but the terrain to create carnage is there (over 4000m of climbing), now it's up to the riders to do so.
 
Ian Butler
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
fosforgasXIII wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
PCM rulezz wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Aaaand Sporza will be airing the rest day today. That's right, with images of massages and other things, Sporza will be having two commentators talk about the Giro, the riders and how they're recuperating and whatnot. Brilliant Pfft


Is that true? I doubt it.


Now I'm starting to doubt. I based this on an on-line article tweeted by Renaat Schotte. But on één and Canvas there isn't a broadcast planned, so maybe it'll be on the radio Sporza. Not sure. It's strange, though

https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/05/20/...tdag-giro/

EDIT: I'm starting to suspect the site is a fake-news one, though, like the onion. Only it doesn't say that on the site, which should be obligatory.

So probably not true. Very strange that Renaat Schotte should tweet it then, though.


De Rechtzetting is a satirical news site with fake news, a bit like the Onion, but you're not the first one who gets mislead by this. A few months ago there was a lot of commotion about an article where minister Schauvliege announced that concerts and parties with "loud and heavy" music genres like rock, metal, dance, DnB etc. should be illegal. Most people didn't notice it was fake :lol:


Well, I can appreciate such sites, but in their section "about De Rechtzetting", they should really confirm this. Instead, they just say they're a news site which really tells the truth.


If you look at some other articles, I think it's obvious enough.
https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/03/28/...ners/#read
https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/03/13/...rdel/#read
https://de.rechtzetting.be/2013/03/07/...kans/#read


Problem is that I just saw that article. Of course it got clear to me after browsing around. But first I clicked the "about..." and I think they should say it there, either way. Obvious or not Smile
 
Guido Mukk
Pellizotti2 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Stage 19 is a pathetic 139 km. Don't expect much to happen there.

Tre Cime is the last opportunity to make any big differences. Betancur should have the jersey wrapped up. Wouldn't surprise me if he beats Majka in the MTT as well. Even though it might not suit him as well as Jafferau or Tre Cime, he's still the 2nd best climber in the race after Nibali, if you ask me.


While I'm always the first to complain about short stages, you just can't underestimate how hard a stage with a Stelvio - Gavia combo (plus Val Martello, which is no joke even if it pales in comparison with its neighbours) can be if ridden hard. It's a big if, specially with the stage to Tre Cime being the next day, but one can hope.

Obviously, but the long flat section between the end of the Stelvio descent and the foot of the final climb eliminates all hopes of the stage being ridden hard from the beginning, imo.


GT short stages has been almost always grazy ones
 
cactus-jack
When it all comes down to it, it's the riders who decide wether or not a stage is to be made interesting or not.

You can get short flat stages that are non-stop acion and you can get incredible mountain stages that are about as exciting as braille-porn.
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issoisso
Ever seen the 2004 Giro climbs where even Cunego managed to hang on and then sprint to a stage win and time bonus? Yeah, that's gonna be Val Martello. Forget about it.
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TheManxMissile
cactus-jack wrote:
When it all comes down to it, it's the riders who decide wether or not a stage is to be made interesting or not.

Why do we always have this debate... We can all name countless examples of boring long stages, exciting long stages, boring short stages and exciting short stages. If you prefer one, your mind won't be swayed by someone posting an example or two.
The only way to guarantee exciting racing day after day is to allow drug taking so the riders never get tired and can rider 50mph Pfft

You can get short flat stages that are non-stop acion and you can get incredible mountain stages that are about as exciting as braille-porn.

Nothing can compare to the sheer pleasure you get from braille-porn! Not only do you get the story, you can really feel the action taking place. Its that much more engaging which really brings the experience to a new level
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cactus-jack
I suppose we might be happy about having some boring stages where riders save themselfs for the very last climb. It might be an indication that it's a cleaner peloton where people can't go balls to the walls on every speed bumb.

I don't really like having back-to-back mountain stages (atleast very tough ones) because it just ends up with all the riders taking it easy untill the last climb on the last stage. Just look at what happened a few years ago.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"

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kumazan
TheManxMissile wrote:
The only way to guarantee exciting racing day after day is to allow drug taking so the riders never get tired and can rider 50mph Pfft


Except when they go so fast, the effect of drafting is so huge that we would have bunch sprints atop the Zoncolan. Pfft
 
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