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| Lorenzo35 |
Posted on 24-09-2012 13:55
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kumazan wrote:
Lorenzo35 wrote:
The two independentists problems we have here in Spain is Catalonia and Basque Country. Spain is divided in autonomy regions, and they are all under the control of the State. Just Navarra and Basque Country have more autonomy because they have their own laws. And about Catalonia, just say it has never been a Country, so the discussion is over imo.
https://es.wikiped..._Barcelona
Yes, and that was a part from ´`The Kingdom//Crown of Aragon´´`With Balearic Islands, and Valencia. Just a little part of it, with an own language...
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| kumazan |
Posted on 24-09-2012 14:05
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Lorenzo35 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Lorenzo35 wrote:
The two independentists problems we have here in Spain is Catalonia and Basque Country. Spain is divided in autonomy regions, and they are all under the control of the State. Just Navarra and Basque Country have more autonomy because they have their own laws. And about Catalonia, just say it has never been a Country, so the discussion is over imo.
https://es.wikiped..._Barcelona
Yes, and that was a part from ´`The Kingdom//Crown of Aragon´´`With Balearic Islands, and Valencia. Just a little part of it, with an own language...
But it was independent before it was incorporated into the Crown of Aragon. Plus, even in the Crown of Aragon, Valencia, Barcelona and Aragon were basically independent kindgoms whose king happened to be the same person.
I mean I don't give a shit about some Catalan's wish to separate from Spain, but there's no need to rewrite history by either side - it doesn't make their claim any more/less valid.
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| Lorenzo35 |
Posted on 24-09-2012 14:12
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kumazan wrote:
Lorenzo35 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Lorenzo35 wrote:
The two independentists problems we have here in Spain is Catalonia and Basque Country. Spain is divided in autonomy regions, and they are all under the control of the State. Just Navarra and Basque Country have more autonomy because they have their own laws. And about Catalonia, just say it has never been a Country, so the discussion is over imo.
https://es.wikiped..._Barcelona
Yes, and that was a part from ´`The Kingdom//Crown of Aragon´´`With Balearic Islands, and Valencia. Just a little part of it, with an own language...
But it was independent before it was incorporated into the Crown of Aragon. Plus, even in the Crown of Aragon, Valencia, Barcelona and Aragon were basically independent kindgoms whose king happened to be the same person.
I mean I don't give a shit about some Catalan's wish to separate from Spain, but there's no need to rewrite history by either side - it doesn't make their claim any more/less valid.
I do think like you, but, I´m not rewriting history... If they were a Kingdom under the responsability of a king, that means, it is a Nation. Just One. If before was kind of a country... it was before it. Because if we just say we have to do what happened on the past, then the Roman Empire should come back, or the Tartessos, or whatever it was before them... Do you know what I mean?
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| kumazan |
Posted on 24-09-2012 14:15
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Lorenzo35 wrote:
I do think like you, but, I´m not rewriting history... If they were a Kingdom under the responsability of a king, that means, it is a Nation. Just One. If before was kind of a country... it was before it. Because if we just say we have to do what happened on the past, then the Roman Empire should come back, or the Tartessos, or whatever it was before them... Do you know what I mean?
I didn't say you did rewrite history, I meant that people, from both sides, did and still do. I mostly agree with you on the rest, so I'll stop this off topic. 
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| Gulvplanke |
Posted on 24-09-2012 17:46
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So... have about them transfers?
How hard can it be?
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 24-09-2012 19:30
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I've seen on CQ, that José Rujano was rumoured for Vacansoleil, has this been discussed here in this thread/any confirmation on it? |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 24-09-2012 19:34
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No Freitas. That would be a surprise move. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-09-2012 19:35
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Rujano says he has offers from a spanish, an italian and a russian team
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 24-09-2012 19:42
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issoisso wrote:
Rujano says he has offers from a spanish, an italian and a russian team
The Russian team is a tricky one to figure out. 
What about the other two? Euskaltel and Lampre?
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| Gulvplanke |
Posted on 24-09-2012 19:43
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Rujano in Euskaltel? I can get used to that idea.
How hard can it be?
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 24-09-2012 19:46
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issoisso wrote:
Rujano says he has offers from a spanish, an italian and a russian team
So Movistar, Lampre or Katusha, Caja Rural, or Acqua and Sapone?
He wouldn't go to Rusvelo would he?
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| kumazan |
Posted on 24-09-2012 19:46
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Hey, the Russian one could be RusVelo.
Rujano to Euskaltel would be the most depressingly hilarious signing in a while.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 24-09-2012 19:47
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valverde321 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Rujano says he has offers from a spanish, an italian and a russian team
So Movistar, Lampre or Katusha, Caja Rural, or Acqua and Sapone?
He wouldn't go to Rusvelo would he?
It's clearly Itera Katusha.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 24-09-2012 19:48
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Rujano says he has offers from a spanish, an italian and a russian team
So Movistar, Lampre or Katusha, Caja Rural, or Acqua and Sapone?
He wouldn't go to Rusvelo would he?
It's clearly Itera Katusha.
Are you sure its not Lokosphinx?
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 24-09-2012 20:30
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valverde321 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Rujano says he has offers from a spanish, an italian and a russian team
So Movistar, Lampre or Katusha, Caja Rural, or Acqua and Sapone?
He wouldn't go to Rusvelo would he?
It's clearly Itera Katusha.
Are you sure its not Lokosphinx?
could be Saxo Tinkoff and he's just trying to mess with us |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 24-09-2012 21:30
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Émilien Viennet (trainee at FDJeux-BigMat - rides for CC Étupes the rest of the time) has signed with FDJeux-Bigmat for the coming season(s). |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 24-09-2012 22:48
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valverde321 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Rujano says he has offers from a spanish, an italian and a russian team
So Movistar, Lampre or Katusha, Caja Rural, or Acqua and Sapone?
He wouldn't go to Rusvelo would he?
It's clearly Itera Katusha.
Are you sure its not Lokosphinx?
I think it's the most plausible option.
I'm not sure how this guy would do in the World Tour now, he's like the most irregular rider ever, one season he performs well, the next he's nowhere to be seen... |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 24-09-2012 23:00
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valverde321 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Rujano says he has offers from a spanish, an italian and a russian team
So Movistar, Lampre or Katusha, Caja Rural, or Acqua and Sapone?
He wouldn't go to Rusvelo would he?
It's clearly Itera Katusha.
Are you sure its not Lokosphinx?
My guesses are Burgos BH - Castilla y Leon, Lokosphinx, and Miche-Guerciotti...
And if you don't think I didn't just look up the worst teams from each country on CQ Ranking, then you are surely mistaken.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 24-09-2012 23:02
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CQranking has Jay McCarthy going to Saxo Bank. Haven't heard any news about that? |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 24-09-2012 23:03
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Wilier wrote:
CQranking has Jay McCarthy going to Saxo Bank. Haven't heard any news about that?
It has been mentioned in the last page
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_597103
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