Aah, makes sense, knew it would be something like that. Makes Jesley getting through even more impressive as he broke this up when he was next in line to go (If he's telling the truth).
Not thought of any questions yet, will get thinking.
Only because Jesleys said that (or even though) that it has not be the truth Every one has his own reasons i guess. (This would be a good question, wouldn't it?
TheManxMissile wrote:
Got Three real good questions lined up, designed to make you squirm and expose all the reality behind playing the game
I am looking forward to it I will like it more than some of the questions you asked last season Edited by knockout on 20-01-2014 21:59
baseballlover312, 06-03-14 : "Nuke Moscow...Don't worry Russia, we've got plenty of love to go around your cities"
Sarah Palin, 08-03-14 (CPAC, on Russian aggression) : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"
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baseballlover312, 06-03-14 : "Nuke Moscow...Don't worry Russia, we've got plenty of love to go around your cities"
Sarah Palin, 08-03-14 (CPAC, on Russian aggression) : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"
Big thanks to jdog for making this AMAZING userbar!
FroomeDog99 wrote:
Once this is over I'd like to find out why I was voted out when Jakstar was still in as a Puerto member and who organised it. No hard feelings, it's just a game, I'm just curious
I created an Alliance with 3 other members when there were only 7 left. Even though in the first vote we has the right amount if people to take control of the game and vote out whoever we wanted to vote out.
We controlled the game for a couple of rounds and it was awesome. But unfortunetly everything has to end at some point. And it ended 2 rounds before the final...
Aah, makes sense, knew it would be something like that. Makes Jesley getting through even more impressive as he broke this up when he was next in line to go (If he's telling the truth).
Not thought of any questions yet, will get thinking.
I was one of the only ones near the end trying to get rid of Jesleyh. I told the guys he was a big threat...it looks like I was right!!
Couldn't follow the game for a while, so I'm interested to know what strategies were used and how the hell Jesleyh got to the final again The last challenge was very nice, I myself would give up after 5 minutes or so. How you guys can collect all the right answers in less than 2 hours is beyond my understanding
Jesleyh wrote:
I know I had to go when I was on holiday.
I had 2 strong alliances at that point though.
Funny is, multiple members have told me that they've saved me there
Thanks everyone who did, look where it brought me
(And thanks Avin for sacrificing himself for me once again )
Maybe many people told you, but i was really the one who saved you when you was out on the holiday, ask Jakstar.
Yes, i passed a chance to kick out Jesleyh twice, it would be no problem. If Jesleyh returned day earlier, i think i would be in final now too, because Jakstar would not be able to backstab me (or skip his vote, i am still not sure what happened in council when i was voted out.)
And Admir, it was me that organized kicking you out.
I was in alliance with Jesleyh from day 2/3 of this game. My plan was to kick out every former Puerto member bar Jakstar and make final three with him and Jesleyh.
So it is out. Congrats to all the finalists. I already know who i will vote for.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 21-01-2014 06:15
Jesleyh wrote:
I know I had to go when I was on holiday.
I had 2 strong alliances at that point though.
Funny is, multiple members have told me that they've saved me there
Thanks everyone who did, look where it brought me
(And thanks Avin for sacrificing himself for me once again )
Maybe many people told you, but i was really the one who saved you when you was out on the holiday, ask Jakstar.
Yes, i passed a chance to kick out Jesleyh twice, it would be no problem. If Jesleyh returned day earlier, i think i would be in final now too, because Jakstar would not be able to backstab me (or skip his vote, i am still not sure what happened in council when i was voted out.)
And Admir, it was me that organized kicking you out.
I was in alliance with Jesleyh from day 2/3 of this game. My plan was to kick out every former Puerto member bar Jakstar and make final three with him and Jesleyh.
So it is out. Congrats to all the finalists. I already know who i will vote for.
Yes he organised to save you.
Sorry Avin but as I said I did do some things I regret like backstabbing you and I'm sorry for that.
And it's good to know that I would have been safe with you and Jesleyh
This was a very fun game and I'm happy with how far I made it!!
Looks like I'm the first one to speech. Allright, always tough.
*Takes a deep breath*
Here we go.
I hestitated a bit to sign up. I knew that I'd miss days, though 3 days isn't a lot in the end, but I didn't knew that by then.
But I really had to participate again, I just couldn't ignore the Survivor game, it was so much fun last year and I have to defend something here.
So I signed up, knowing that my chances would be really slim, having won the last game. I knew that at least half of the people would want me to go out first.
So that made it a hard job for me, tougher than it was for Dippo & Knockout for sure, since they haven't participated last time and therefore weren't necassarily considered dangerous.
Of course, there were people that wanted an alliance with me, because I've (almost) carried an alliance to the final last time as well, but I think in fact, there was almost nobody that wanted me to reach the final. Almost yeah, there were some, and that has become pretty clear in the last pages I think.
I think I did quite a lot in the team challenges. I cannot say if it was more than the 2 other finalists did, but I'm pretty sure that it was at least as much, and I think only Jseadog did more in the team challenges, but I might forget someone here, since Brewers & Froome did quite a bit as well at least. That's why I really wanted Jseadog out in the end, if he reached the final, he'd have deserved the win. And now I do, of course
In the individual challenges, I think I have put more time in than the other finalists. Best example that you've actually seen me doing is testing in PCM how much seconds it'd have been on Alpe D'Huez. But I even re-made the startlist of the PCM prediction challenge, or at least with the same leaders participating, and did a test-run there. I went for Rodriguez in the end, for tactical purposes. Didn't work out, but if Rodriguez had won, I would've won immunity almost certainly(since Froome would probably come 2nd on quality then, so I'd already have 2/2, while others would have 0/2).
Anyway, brings me to the tactical aspect.
I certainly believe that this aspect is the aspect that should/could guide me to the win. Because I believe that I was the strongest member of the game tactically, or at least of the finalists.
I've been in tons of alliances, sometimes even pretending to be in alliances, leaving alliances, trying to work into alliances etc. I've been in a lot. Manipulating was definitely involved
It was my idea to form an alliance with a member/potentially 2/3 members from the other tribe, I don't think others did the same. While for me, it would be my rescue if things would get out of hand, because the Tinkoff tribe lost a lot challenges at the start. I must say the Puerto team looked stronger before hand, to me, which makes it impressive that most of the Tinkoff tribe still survived in the end.
Manipulating was definitely involved
Anyway, point is, from the tactical aspect, I just deserve this win.
Also, don't think that I shouldn't win this because I've already won it.
Believe me, I will be just as happy, and hope for a banner like 'Winner of PCMdaily Survivor twice in succession', that'd just be awesome
Anyway, this speech is already too long now, I should stop.
The others will probably try to deny my claims in this post, and repeat my points but then applying that for themselves. That's the drawback of going first. Just ignore the other speeches
At last, thanks a lot for organising this Mre!
Edit:
It should be taken into account that I have used the 'unlimited bragging rights' I won last Survivor for this post, so if I offended anyone, sorry Edited by Jesleyh on 21-01-2014 17:05
This got longer than i wanted it to be but i hope that everyone who is in the jury will read it
Seems like I am the next to go.
Nearly two months ago, when sign-up started, i was the last one to join the game. Before i decided to do this i readed myself into the tactics and rules of survivor.
I decided to base my play on two important pillars: 1. Flying under the radar by acting as the underdog and 2. Build clever alliances.
I wanted to reach the final without being noticed too much too early and i think i mastered this. But this does not mean that i did not do anything to help my tribe: When we had to vote one member out as soon as this started i got two votes because some people saw the weak spot of our tribe. I showed them that i deserved to stay in the tribe by help our tribe more than anybody else (except perhaps Jseadog). To show you that these are not only empty words but is actually true i want to describe my view on every challenge we made:
Spoiler
IC #1
Find a name and make a flag
Although i am very uncreative, i tried to be as helpful as possible and i help froomedog more than some others (e.g. I was the one who found the background).
IC #2
Chain reaction (tdf stage winner)
I was active in the first few hours but our problem was that Jseadog wasn't online in the first hours and that Dippo was only online every 25 minutes so we could not go out full speed with 6/7 of our tribe. Then i had some activities in real life which are far more important but i couldn't knew that jseadog would come online shortly after i went offline. it was just bad timing
IC #3
Fill in the blanc (Guess the cyclist)
iirc, only jesleyh, brewers and me were here to help with the challenge.
IC #4
GT Scattergories (GT winner in stories
I was the one who did the most of the work here. Only froomedog came close here. Dippo and Jseadog helped, too.
IC #5
Eat em' Up
Jseadog was the one who secured us the dominant win. But i was the one who scored the second most and even without Jseadog we would have won it..
IC #6
Poppin' Tires
Jesleyh and I were the only ones online when the challenge started. Unfortunatelly, i was kicked out firstPuerto guys.
IC #7
Up in the Air
Jseadog made fantastic work here while i was most of the time the second one who made the catch (which would have secured us the points Jseadog made also without him..)
IC #8
Shake it up ( Tribes are mixing up)
Pure luck. Nothing to say more
IC #9
Relay Riddle
I tried to help as much as possible but the win is to 90% the achievement of TMM.
IC #10
Create-a-Challenge
Nice tactics by TMM decided this but he can be lucky that he does not regrets it now. (It would take too long to explain it here. But you have the quesions. Please ask it )
MERGE
IC #11
Scategories (IWS:Manx-style)
I was the only one to be even close to challenge TMM.
IC #12
+ / -
i could have won this challenge as especially Jseadog wanted me to win it first but i denied because i did not wanted the immunity as i did not wanted to let our alliance break already at this point. And this could have happened easily if everybody would have wanted immunity badly.. (if that was the plan of mre than it was very smart to do this..)
IC #13
Survivor Auction
I knew right from the beginning that the immunity was in the silent auction so i betted all my money on it. But things changed when TMM was about to get the red.isl. Freepass which would have brouht him 100% surely into the final five (combined with the idol he had). So i gave up my chances on immunity to stop tmm.
IC #14
Sliders
Despite of having 5x my time Jesleyh only won with a very slim advantage.. If i had those 3 minutes more i spend on the red.isl. Freepass i would have won for sure.. ( look at the order i posted later…
IC #15
Let's play PCM
Mostly luck… Although i was again second..
IC #16
Number Crunch
You got it. I was again second behind Jseadog. And it was close again.. Jesleyh was very bad again..
IC #17
Daily Question Search
This time i could not prove my skills at all because i was back from school for about 8 minutes when it was over and I could only find two of the answers in this time..
If you listened to this then it should be obvious that i was the one of the 3 finalists who spent the most time on it. I was there at nearly every challenge when others only were there at those challenges that did not required that much work unlike e.g. PacMan or find the GT winners.
So i was definitive among the most active players.
If you look back at challenge one Operacion Puerto described on their team flag what attributes are important to become the sole survivor: Great Designers, Strong, Courageous, Clever, Great Memory, Tactic Players, Active, Intelligent, Smart and Team Player.
I was not only active but i was also smart enough to build up strong alliances. I was allied for a long time with Jseadog and Dippofix which was the dominant alliance postmerge (especially after Jakstar joined us). If you want to highlight someone of us it should propably be me: i was the one who was propably behind this alliance because i was the one who brought Dippo and Jseadog together, I was the one who hold the contact to Jesleyh and Froomedog so that Tinkov would not break into pieces to early and I played an important role in the difficult and courageous decisions like voting out Froomedog. It may looked as if he was an random victim but from my side it was a very tactical vote as this would tie Jesleyh ( who was also allied with me from the very beginning ) closer to me and from that point I was 99% sure that i would reach the final three.
Many of you critized the point that i decided to vote out Jakstar instead of Jesleyh. It was not because Jesleyh manipulated me to it or because i thought he would get most of the puerto votes (what was Jesleyhs argument towards me and my argument towards Dippo and Jseadog) but because i wanted to stick as loyal to my alliances as possible and I was already allied with Jesleyh for a long time when Jakstar got into an alliance with me. I always knew that Jesleyh would get more votes in the final but that was not the tactical best move but i wanted to betray as few people as possible and wanted to be as honest as I could. It was not possible at every point of the game because e.g I had to vote off one of my allied guys in the last tribal council which was a real pain for me and i ended up flipping a coin between Jseadog and Jesleyh.
But i showed my tactical skills at another point when i was one of the very few members of the game who tried to build up an alliance with somebody from the other tribe before the merge but unfortunatelly, Cycleman and Jakstar did not accepted my offer.
In the end, I am quite happy that they did as it was not so hard for me to vote them off the game in the end.
I think that this proved what a good tactical and team player i was. Another prove of how intelligent and clever i was is that i found two hidden immunites when i only had one hint for the second one and the third one I found only half an hour after it was hidden by Mre (without a clue).
The attributes i did not talked about yet are "great memory", "great designers" and "Strong". I think i proved the memory somehow in IC #16 and i don't think that you need to be a great designer at all when you want to become the sole survivor.
I think the member who unites all these attributs is the member who is the strongest and in my opinion that is me.
Now before I end up my (very short ) speech with some words directly addressed to the jury I want to thank Jeff Probst for organizing the whole game. I hope this will return again for another season. If you, Jeff, struggle with that, you can always ask me to help you with the next season instead of participating again.
Then, I want to thank every member of the game from Dinger to Jseadog, Dippo and Jesleyh for their participation. I would not have enjoyed it that much if you would not participated.
And I want to thank those that you listened to this whole speek for their attention.
So i am at the end of my speech: My very lasts words to the jury are:
Please use the power of the questions to make sure the one who will receive your votes deserves it. Don't vote for someone just because another one told you that or he would give you the most for it but vote for the one who deserves it the most in your opinion. If it is Dippo, then vote for him. If you think Jesleyh deserves it the most, give him your vote and if you think that my way of playing this was the best, give me your vote.
PCM.Daily NFL Fantasy Football Champion: 2012 PCM.Daily NHL Prediction Game Champion: 2013 PCM.Daily NFL Prediction Game Champion: 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2021
I disagree with the things you wrote in the first spoiler though, seems very subjective and all.
But allright, I'm not taking the bait
I guess you meant the second spoiler?
If so, Tell me at what point you disagree. There are some points where i was not 100% sure if i remembered correctly e.g. in the Fill in the blanc challenge was it brewers or was it Dippo who was the third man beside the two of us..
And hey, at your speak it sounded as if i was just was the completely loyal follower who was like a puppet for you which exactly did everything like you wanted. This is totally untrue. I did what i thought was best for me which sometimes was the best for you, too (vote jakstar out) but simetimes wasn't the best for you (voting froomedog out)
Did I sound like that? Well, sorry, wasn't meant like that, it isn't true indeed, you were no puppet.
But nah, I'm not going to make a problem of it of course, so I won't post here
I could PM if you really want though?
Edited by Jesleyh on 21-01-2014 16:06
Did I sound like that? Well, sorry, wasn't meant like that, isn't true either.
But nah, I'm not going to make a problem of it, won't post here I could PM if you really want though?
It just sounded like that in a few passages and in some former posts of you
And if you think that that what i wrote is wrong then just say so. The jury should know who did what amount of work at what point so tell everyone if you disagree on some points i wrote down.
I really have no problem with it because then I can tell you why i think that was or wasn't right,...
And for some points there are other guys around who could tell their opinion on it...
(but if you don't want to post it here you can of course pm it to me. but i guess this would not help you to getting some more votes.. )
Nah, doesn't matter, I'll just send you a PM.
You feel like you sound bad in my post(though I cannot see that yet), I feel like I sound bad in your post, I guess we're even then
And i did not wanted to make you sound bad there. Hey, i for example said that i think you would get more votes than Jakstar (what means you were the stronger player) (Sorry Jakstar)
Spoiler
Consequently i should have voted out you (according to others) but i think you can play and win this game also honestly and fair by sticking to your alliances
That was the only point where I completely lost control over the game and what's happening, I must admit.
After rereading a few pages back I saw this post of you again. I can tell you that is a great compliment from you because that was what i intended when voting out froomedog
Every one has his own reasons i guess. (This would be a good question, wouldn't it?
I will like it more than some of the questions you asked last season 
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