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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-06-2014 14:54
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What a shame. Waste of young talent.
Not a surprise he was hanging with the best on the early mountains anymore after reading this. It's like a less obvious Santambrogio case.
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| krisa |
Posted on 25-06-2014 14:54
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another cyclist with asthma 
Salbutamol (INN) or albuterol (USAN) is a short-acting β2-adrenergic receptor agonist used for the relief of bronchospasm in conditions such as asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.[2] It is marketed as Ventolin among other brand names.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 25-06-2014 15:08
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Sometimes I'm thinking asthma is in many cases an excuse for riders to dope...
Edited by Wilier on 25-06-2014 15:15
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 25-06-2014 17:03
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Thanks a lot Ulissi. Clean Italian riders have it hard enough without guys like you pissing all over the small credibility they have left... |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 25-06-2014 17:10
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Well, people on CN called me stupid when I said he's taking a bit bigger dose of vein-shots (dope) than others. Prick.
I don't know why you people are even surprised by these kind of news. It clearly became a normal thing in modern cycling.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 25-06-2014 17:19
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it seems the wheel of dopers landed on Ulissi 
and of course the rider that made the race kinda exiting get's caught for doping.
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| b3n3v3nt3 |
Posted on 25-06-2014 17:23
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admirschleck wrote:
Well, people on CN called me stupid when I said he's taking a bit bigger dose of vein-shots (dope) than others. Prick.
I don't know why you people are even surprised by these kind of news. It clearly became a normal thing in modern cycling.
Maybe 
I bet most of other sports would have the same kind of news... if they were controlled as much as cycling, though. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 25-06-2014 17:30
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Wilier wrote:
Sometimes I'm thinking asthma is in many cases an excuse for riders to dope...
Yeah it appears that way. However, I don't know much about asthma, but cyclists & athletes in general dig a lot deeper & exhaust themselves much more when they sport than normal people, so I think it's logical for them to have breathing problems or develop asthma in certain situations?
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 25-06-2014 18:50
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Boasson Hagen injured (achilles problem) and will miss the TDF
https://www.espn.co.uk/cycling/sport/s...18763.html
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 25-06-2014 18:59
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GG Ulissi. |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 25-06-2014 19:07
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Damn Ulissi, that's fucking stupid...
what about his Giro wins? They should go to Evans and Kiserlovski now right? |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-06-2014 19:24
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So if he took 2 Puffs of an inhaler as he supposedly did (and was allowed to by the UCI) he would have had 100 ng/ml but his values were at 1900 
It can apparently be taken intravenously so I'm guessing that's what happened here, and was probably used to mask something else since it is apparently comparable to clenbuterol.
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| ryant |
Posted on 25-06-2014 19:58
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He obviously mistook 2 puffs of the inhaler for 20 instead, its an easy mistake to make IMO
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-06-2014 20:13
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ryant wrote:
He obviously mistook 2 puffs of the inhaler for 20 instead, its an easy mistake to make IMO
According to the small amount of research I've done, even excessive abuse of an inhaler would be hard for him to go over 1000 which is the limit for WADA I believe.
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| depeche92 |
Posted on 25-06-2014 20:33
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valverde321 wrote:
ryant wrote:
He obviously mistook 2 puffs of the inhaler for 20 instead, its an easy mistake to make IMO
According to the small amount of research I've done, even excessive abuse of an inhaler would be hard for him to go over 1000 which is the limit for WADA I believe.
2a. Béta-2-agonistes (Salmétérol / Salbutamol / Formotérol): Vous n’avez pas à soumettre de demande d’AUT si vous inhalez du Salmétérol, Salbutamol (jusqu’à une dose journalière de 1600 μg) et/ou Formotérol (jusqu’à une dose journalière de 54μg).
https://www.uci.ch...p;LangId=2
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-06-2014 21:08
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depeche92 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
ryant wrote:
He obviously mistook 2 puffs of the inhaler for 20 instead, its an easy mistake to make IMO
According to the small amount of research I've done, even excessive abuse of an inhaler would be hard for him to go over 1000 which is the limit for WADA I believe.
2a. Béta-2-agonistes (Salmétérol / Salbutamol / Formotérol): Vous n’avez pas à soumettre de demande d’AUT si vous inhalez du Salmétérol, Salbutamol (jusqu’à une dose journalière de 1600 μg) et/ou Formotérol (jusqu’à une dose journalière de 54μg).
https://www.uci.ch...p;LangId=2
Thats a different unit measurement. ng/ml is what I was using, just as in the cycling news article and on the Twitter picture, as well as what I read on wikipedia.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 25-06-2014 21:16
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If 1900 is the max and he has 1600, then he is 300 over the limit. A package of the medicine itself teaches me that a dose consists of 100. 1600+100+100 is 1800. The last 100 should be inexplicable then.
Spoiler I hope I haven't made mistakes with measurements here 
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-06-2014 21:28
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Selwink wrote:
If 1900 is the max and he has 1600, then he is 300 over the limit. A package of the medicine itself teaches me that a dose consists of 100. 1600+100+100 is 1800. The last 100 should be inexplicable then.
Spoiler I hope I haven't made mistakes with measurements here
Okay got it, the limit used to be 1000 but was changed in 2011 to 1600. Two puffs from an inhaler is approximately 150-200. The daily limit for an inhaler is 8 puffs or something around there, so he shouldn't be getting anywhere over 1600 in a 24 hour period if he is even taking 3 or 4 more puffs than allowed from his inhaler.
However this is all irrelevant because it says he is only allowed 2 puffs for his inhaler so his values as far as I know should be around 200-300 if his method truly was through inhalation.
1900 is basically 20 puffs and it just wouldn't make sense, because the effects really wouldn't be noticed at all after about 4 or 5 puffs.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 25-06-2014 21:29
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As I understand it, 1000 is the limit and he measured 1900. 2 doses = 100, so 18 doses over the limit. I might be mistaken though. |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 25-06-2014 21:30
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jph27 wrote:
As I understand it, 1000 is the limit and he measured 1900. 2 doses = 100, so 18 doses over the limit. I might be mistaken though.
Nope, 1 dose is 100, so he is 'just' 7 over the limit
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