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PCM 2013 - First Impressions Thread
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:07
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That's fantastic news. I had hopes there would be some way to change these stuff, it's great that there is (while keeping the automatic calculation, which is also useful sometimes) 
CrueTrue wrote:
 Better than PCM12, but still worried that this feature is in the hands of stage makers 
Time to get the Stage DB up again then
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| ppanther |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:09
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Even though there are many riders with not very accurate stats yet, but they made a good effort to give the different riders, lets call it, "specialisations". Examples Climbers with very different SP stats, very different ACC stats, mediocre riders with high END or REC stats, strong riders with bad REC and so on. I think they did pretty well on that as it will add depth to the game. |
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| Snuble |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:10
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have you guys got the DL link yet? it said at 12.01 latest, and now its 12.09, no download link so far
They have this great beer here in England, I really love it. Its called Pint.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:10
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British Time  Another hour! |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:11
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Snuble wrote:
have you guys got the DL link yet? it said at 12.01 latest, and now its 12.09, no download link so far
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I though e-mails said the links would start being e-mailed to people at 1am British time. Which is two hours from now.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Snuble |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:12
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never mind... its brittishtime..lol.. 1 more hour to wait edit: as i see you guys already mentioned damn, to tired to wait i think but good shit will go on tomorrow then
Edited by Snuble on 19-06-2013 23:14
They have this great beer here in England, I really love it. Its called Pint.
--Frank Strandli, Norwegian x-football player --
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:13
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Mind you, it's a very retarded move by Focus. Download links should ALWAYS be given out far in advance. Usually a week. Then when the game is released, e-mail just the codes
What's going to happen is everyone is going to try to download at the same time. No one will get any speed. Focus will have to deal with three billion support tickets yelling "MY DOWNLOAD IS SLOW FIX YOUR SERVER"
It's network admin 101 ffs
Edited by issoisso on 19-06-2013 23:14
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:13
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Mine says I'll get the link from 12:01 AM CET on. But I don't have it yet either.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:17
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cunego59 wrote:
Mine says I'll get the link from 12:01 AM CET on. But I don't have it yet either.
Probably because it's CEST atm? Dunno if they distinguish that to annoy us.
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:20
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yeah i don't know why we get the download links at approx same time.. sounds like a 100% fullproof way to get your servers overloaded.
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| Roozeken |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:23
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just loved the mountains, got to say i love the explosive type of riders more then the diesel riders ...
Roubaix is fun aswell ^^ up to sprinting and hilly races |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:25
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SportingNonsense wrote:
GET IN!
Stage editor now has the option to choose the Flat/Hill/Mountain rating of a stage. As well as all the other things like time gaps, uphill sprint ratio and mountain ratio.
YES!
Really, really, really great news. I just need to get the game now.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:27
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Hey you guys are lucky. I dont get the links for another 16 hours and judging from the reaction so far, I'll still not get it until after that.
Atleast I've got my final exam tomorrow at the exact time Im supposed to get the links.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:51
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valverde321 wrote:
Mresuperstar wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
alex-sonic wrote:
Someone mention ctrl + R as a recorder? Can someone test it?
Confirmed! It records.
What type of video file does it come out as? .avi
And whats the file size? I know Fraps has massive filesizes even for a 30 second recording.
Straight from the game, a 16 second clip I recorded was 54 MB.
Decent quality. It does have a flashing red 'recording' square in the top right hand corner, and www.bandisoft.com engraved across the top. It also recorded the music I was playing at the time, outside of PCM.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 19-06-2013 23:58
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So - back when PCM12 was released, I did some tests to prove that the mountain AI simply didn't work. Even if I decided to go full power from 180 km out on a mountain stage, I'd still get a 40 man group sprint in the end.
I just tried this in PCM13. Have simulated the Tour up until the 18th stage with double Alpe d'Huez. Starting relaying with the Sky train on Col d'Ornon, kept on going on Alpe d'Huez where it's as realistic as it can be: "Moran" (Uran) simply ripped the peloton apart and created a group of just 7 riders: Uran, Froome, Wiggins, Contador, Betancur, Pinot and Cunego (well, riders aren't realistic, but other than that... ).
Obviously, this kinda ruined my experiment as I wouldn't be able to thin out the peloton myself from this point ... but luckily, this happened all by itself for the rest of the stage. No sprint for the finish line - just riders crossing the finish line one by one after a hard stage.
First major group came in 17th, and that was just 12 riders (De Gendt, Kreuziger, Evans, Martin - well, and Cunego who couldn't keep up with Froome and co. ).
Spoiler | 1 | Alberto Contador | Team Saxo-Tinkoff | 5h00'11 | | 2 | Chris Vroome | Sky Pro Cycling | + 2'27 | | 3 | Jose Rujano | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | + 3'17 | | 4 | Carlos Alberto Betancur | Ag2r La Mondiale | + 3'50 | | 5 | Tanel Kangert | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 6 | Thibaut Pinot | FDJ | + 4'24 | | 7 | Christophe Le Mével | Cofidis, Solutions Crédits | + 4'36 | | 8 | Teddy Van Gorderon | COM Cycling Team | + 5'06 | | 9 | Vincenzo Nibali | Astana Pro Team | + 5'34 | | 10 | Nairo Quintana | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 11 | Alejandro Valverde | Movistar Team | + 5'46 | | 12 | Rémi Pauriol | Sojasun | s.t. | | 13 | Joaquin Rodriguez | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 14 | Romain Bardet | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 15 | Rigo Moran | Sky Pro Cycling | + 7'19 | | 16 | Pierre Rolland | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 17 | Thomas De Gendt | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | + 7'34 | | 18 | Roman Kreuziger | Team Saxo-Tinkoff | s.t. | | 19 | Cape Erwans | COM Cycling Team | s.t. | | 20 | Daniel Martin | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 21 | Ivan Basso | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 22 | Jean-Christophe Péraud | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 23 | John Gadret | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 24 | Santi Venao | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 25 | Damiano Cunego | Lampre-Merida | s.t. | | 26 | Janez Brajkovic | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 27 | Brodlay Waggons | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 28 | Mikel Nieve | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 29 | Tom Danielson | Garmin - Sharp | + 8'14 | | 30 | Robert Gesink | Blanco Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 31 | Thomas Voeckler | Team Europcar | + 8'51 | | 32 | Bauke Mollema | Blanco Pro Cycling | + 9'16 | | 33 | Maxime Monfort | Radioshack Leopard | + 9'27 | | 34 | Daniel Moreno | Katusha Team | + 10'05 | | 35 | Egoi MartÃnez | Euskaltel Euskadi | + 12'43 | | 36 | Jérôme Coppel | Cofidis, Solutions Crédits | s.t. | | 37 | Simon Spilak | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 38 | Przemyslaw Niemiec | Lampre-Merida | s.t. | | 39 | Matthy Frunky | COM Cycling Team | s.t. | | 40 | Andy Schleck | Radioshack Leopard | s.t. | | 41 | Sylvester Szmyd | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 42 | Jakob Fuglsang | Astana Pro Team | + 13'12 | | 43 | Nicki Sørensen | Team Saxo-Tinkoff | s.t. | | 44 | Denis Menchov | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 45 | Eros Capecchi | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 46 | David Mopez | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 47 | Christian Vandevelde | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 48 | Danilo Cotoldo | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 49 | Stevie Monravito | COM Cycling Team | s.t. | | 50 | Vas Koroyenka | Sky Pro Cycling | + 13'50 | | 51 | Konsadine Sitsu | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 52 | Jurgen Van den Broeck | Lotto Belisol | + 14'17 | | 53 | Rui Costa | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 54 | Brice Feillu | Sojasun | s.t. | | 55 | Nicolas Roche | Team Saxo-Tinkoff | + 15'54 | | 56 | Igor Anton | Euskaltel Euskadi | + 16'52 | | 57 | Fredrik Kessiakoff | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 58 | Sylvain Chuvanel | Omega Pharma - Quickstep Cycling Team | + 18'59 | | 59 | Jonathan Hivert | Sojasun | s.t. | | 60 | Michael Rogers | Team Saxo-Tinkoff | + 19'44 | | 61 | Damiano Caruso | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 20'35 | | 62 | Steven Kruijswijk | Blanco Pro Cycling | + 21'15 | | 63 | Jan Bakelants | Radioshack Leopard | + 21'41 | | 64 | Matthew Busche | Radioshack Leopard | + 22'03 | | 65 | Rein Taaramae | Cofidis, Solutions Crédits | s.t. | | 66 | Yoann Bagot | Cofidis, Solutions Crédits | s.t. | | 67 | Andrew Talansky | Garmin - Sharp | + 22'46 | | 68 | Wout Poels | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 69 | Andreas Klöden | Radioshack Leopard | + 22'57 | | 70 | Matthew Lloyd | Lampre-Merida | + 23'38 | | 71 | Robert Vrecer | Euskaltel Euskadi | + 23'54 | | 72 | Diego Ulissi | Lampre-Merida | + 24'33 | | 73 | Paolo Tiralongo | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 74 | Arnold Jeannesson | FDJ | s.t. | | 75 | Hubert Dupont | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 76 | Chris Horner | Radioshack Leopard | s.t. | | 77 | Tom Jelte Slagter | Blanco Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 78 | Guillaume Levarlet | Cofidis, Solutions Crédits | + 25'27 | | 79 | Davide Malacarne | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 80 | Cayetano Jose Sarmiento | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 25'58 | | 81 | Maxime Méderel | Sojasun | + 27'15 | | 82 | Kristijan Koren | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 29'06 | | 83 | Bob Jungels | Radioshack Leopard | s.t. | | 84 | Eloy Teruel | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 85 | Evgueni Petrov | Team Saxo-Tinkoff | s.t. | | 86 | Lieuwe Westra | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 87 | Ricardo Mestre | Euskaltel Euskadi | + 29'37 | | 88 | Cameron Meyer | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 89 | Tony Mirtin | Omega Pharma - Quickstep Cycling Team | + 29'57 | | 90 | Fabrice Jeandesboz | Sojasun | s.t. | | 91 | Simon Gerrans | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 92 | Sergio Paulinho | Team Saxo-Tinkoff | + 30'51 | | 93 | Juan José Cobo Acebo | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 94 | Anthony Charteau | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 95 | Peter Valits | Omega Pharma - Quickstep Cycling Team | + 32'27 | | 96 | Daryl Impey | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 97 | Jérémy Roy | FDJ | s.t. | | 98 | Fabian Wegmann | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 99 | Filip Gillou | COM Cycling Team | s.t. | | 100 | Cyril Gautier | Team Europcar | + 32'44 | | 101 | Georg Preidler | Team Argos-Shimano | + 32'53 | | 102 | Gregory Van Avorton | COM Cycling Team | + 33'02 | | 103 | Zdenek Stybur | Omega Pharma - Quickstep Cycling Team | s.t. | | 104 | Mathieu Sprick | Team Argos-Shimano | + 33'14 | | 105 | Gianni Miersman | Omega Pharma - Quickstep Cycling Team | + 33'30 | | 106 | Yannick Talabardon | Sojasun | + 34'32 | | 107 | Christophe Kern | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 108 | Daniele Ratto | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 109 | Svein Tuft | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 110 | Julien El Fares | Sojasun | s.t. | | 111 | Moreno Moser | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 112 | Enrico Gasparotto | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 113 | Mikhail Ignatiev | Katusha Team | + 35'42 | | 114 | Manuele Mori | Lampre-Merida | + 36'56 | | 115 | Bram Tankink | Blanco Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 116 | Egoitz Garcia Etxegibel | Cofidis, Solutions Crédits | s.t. | | 117 | Yann Huguet | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 118 | Michael Albasini | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 119 | Pavel Brutt | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 120 | Gorka Izagirre | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 121 | Francisco Ventoso | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 122 | Matthew Goss | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 123 | Allan Davis | Orica-GreenEDGE | + 38'35 | | 124 | Markus Burger | COM Cycling Team | + 39'04 | | 125 | Cameron Wurf | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 41'21 | | 126 | Luka Mezgec | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 127 | Lars Ytting Bak | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 128 | Michel Kreder | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 129 | Steve Chainel | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 130 | Giacomo Nizzolo | Radioshack Leopard | s.t. | | 131 | Daniele Bennati | Team Saxo-Tinkoff | s.t. | | 132 | Grega Bole | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 133 | Samuel Dumoulin | Ag2r La Mondiale | + 43'15 | | 134 | Koldo Fernandez | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 135 | Marco Marcato | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 136 | Vicente Reynès | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 137 | Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 138 | Tosh Van der Sande | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 139 | Davide Cimolai | Lampre-Merida | s.t. | | 140 | Juan Antonio Flecha | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 141 | Adriano Malori | Lampre-Merida | + 44'09 | | 142 | Elia Favilli | Lampre-Merida | + 46'06 | | 143 | Maarten Wynants | Blanco Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 144 | Borut Bozic | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 145 | Jure Kocjan | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 146 | Anthony Geslin | FDJ | s.t. | | 147 | Dominique Rollin | FDJ | s.t. | | 148 | Jens Keukeleire | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 149 | Marko Covendish | Omega Pharma - Quickstep Cycling Team | s.t. | | 150 | Nikias Arndt | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 151 | Sébastien Turgot | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 152 | Manuel Belletti | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 153 | Jens Debusschere | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 154 | Alexei Tsatevich | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 155 | Jonas Vangenechten | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 156 | Mark Renshaw | Blanco Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 157 | Bert Grobsch | Omega Pharma - Quickstep Cycling Team | + 47'25 | | 158 | Tom Veelers | Team Argos-Shimano | + 48'45 | | 159 | Marko Kump | Team Saxo-Tinkoff | s.t. | | 160 | Alessandro Petacchi | Lampre-Merida | s.t. | | 161 | Fabio Sabatini | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 162 | Teilord Phoney | COM Cycling Team | s.t. | | 163 | John Degenkolb | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 164 | Brett Lancaster | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 165 | Arnaud Démare | FDJ | s.t. | | 166 | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | s.t. | | 167 | Bryan Coquard | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 168 | Alexander Kristoff | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 169 | Andrea Guardini | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 170 | Elia Viviani | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 171 | Stéphane Poulhies | Cofidis, Solutions Crédits | + 49'56 | | 172 | Christophe Laborie | Sojasun | + 50'55 | | 173 | Adel Blate | COM Cycling Team | s.t. | | 174 | Alex Dowsett | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 175 | Thomas Buunen | Omega Pharma - Quickstep Cycling Team | s.t. | | 176 | Kenny Dehaes | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 177 | Gregory Henderson | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 178 | Rüdiger Selig | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 179 | Guillaume Von Keirsbulck | Omega Pharma - Quickstep Cycling Team | s.t. | | 180 | Marcel Kittel | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 181 | Sébastien Chavanel | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 182 | André Greipel | Lotto Belisol | s.t. |
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| shadster |
Posted on 20-06-2013 00:19
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Anyone received the download links yet? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-06-2013 00:26
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| pittaln |
Posted on 20-06-2013 00:26
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shadster wrote:
Anyone received the download links yet?
No. Refreshing my inbox every minute. Can´t wait to get started. |
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| kevtucks |
Posted on 20-06-2013 00:27
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Ian Butler wrote:
British Time Another hour!
still time to pee my pants some more then...  |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 20-06-2013 00:28
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Jesleyh wrote:
Also, I noticed that the 'hidden' charisma stat is updated. A lot of variety in the charisma stats, they wouldn't put that effort it in if it doesn't have effect, I suppose
So I wonder if it has any effect, and if so, what?
Guys like Voeckler & Pozzato score high on it, which makes sense I guess, but there's also Lequatre(?!)
It was exactly like in PCM12
cosmic wrote:
How's the rider collision in the 2013 edition ? One of my greatest annoyances with 2012 was the fact that it sometimes was a pain to get your riders up front early/at the start of the race, primarily in races with narrow roads. It sometimes makes it a pain to get in early breakaways with the rider(s) you want. Obviously getting blocked in is part of racing, but few riders need 50km to get to the front of the peleton.
Iirc Cya said they hadn't really change much on it.
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