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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 06-06-2013 10:34
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PCM rulezz wrote:
Isn't sagan the rider with the most exceptional progress? I hope for him it's pure talent.
It seems pretty steady to me. He rocketed straight to WT in 2010 and is improving year by year after that.
And again, he was junior WC in MTB and 2nd at junior WC in cyclocross in the same season (2008).
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 06-06-2013 10:35
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I have some doubts towards all riders, but I agree that Sagan and EBH aren't as suspicious as many others. Another guy I really want to believe is Dan Martin.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 06-06-2013 10:35
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Montolivo wrote:
To be clean or be cleanest is a big difference. I have big doubts that those two are clean.
At least i'm not the type who goes around thinking about doping when I see one rider win alot of races. I often give riders the benefit of the doubt even though I believe most are still on doping.
I dont think number of wins is the best indicator for that anyway, rather how those wins are achieved and how frequently, besides other circumstantional evidence...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 06-06-2013 10:36
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
I have some doubts towards all riders, but I agree that Sagan and EBH aren't as suspicious as many others. Another guy I really want to believe is Dan Martin.
These three have also my big hopes, please let that never be destroyed. 
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 06-06-2013 10:40
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Roelandts is one I believe in aswell. Don't know why, always liked the guy. Plus no ridiculous results from his side.
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| usto |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:03
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:05
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2 green jerseys?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
It's difficult not to be happy when you're surrounded by Belgians. - Mark Cavendish
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| usto |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:13
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The white jersey is for "combinada" classification, one green for points and the other for young
EDIT: If i'm not wrong
Edited by usto on 06-06-2013 11:14
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:14
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So both points and U25 will have green jerseys?
That's not going to be confusing at all...
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:17
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Since when is their a young riders jersey in the Vuelta?
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:18
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Since this year, apparently.
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| usto |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:18
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the last year they do it in the same way, if you remember Valverde win the white jersey and Purito wear one green jersey
Edited by usto on 06-06-2013 11:20
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:21
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usto wrote:
the last year they do it in the same way, if you remember Valverde win the white jersey and Purito wear one green jersey
Last year there was only one green jersey for the points classification. No jersey for best young rider at all.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:23
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PCM rulezz wrote:
Since when is their a young riders jersey in the Vuelta?
The young riders competition existed lat year aswell thoug there was no jersey for it as UCI rules only allow 4 jerseys. Seems the rules have changed.
Too bad they stopped using the yellow-blue fish jersey 
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:39
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Like most of the commentators didn't have enough difficulties recognizing riders in the peloton. Make two distinctive green jerseys. That will help.
Edited by alexkr00 on 06-06-2013 11:40
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:47
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Isn't it combination?
On Dan Martin. I do believe he made quite a jump this year, but don't forget his results last year in the Ardennes were top 10s and one 5 I believe. He was 2nd in Lombardy in 2011. Has done very well in Catalunya and won a Vuelta mtn stage in 2011. Even befor that he was qinning smaller races like Japan Cup and Giro del Emilia. Not a tremendous jump from 5th to 1st or 6th to 4th IMO. I am a fanboy though. So take all with a grain of salt obviously.
Edited by baseballlover312 on 06-06-2013 11:51
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 06-06-2013 11:56
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Isn't it combination?
That's the white jersey, as usual
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 06-06-2013 12:01
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
However, I do withstand what I said earlier. In today's peloton, you can't win the biggest races clean.
Pellizotti2 wrote:
I have some doubts towards all riders, but I agree that Sagan and EBH aren't as suspicious as many others. Another guy I really want to believe is Dan Martin.
I'm confused now which of these statements is true or is L-B-L not one of the biggest races? 
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 06-06-2013 12:05
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Oops, that was a bit confusing
Well, I was talking mainly about stage races earlier. Classics are obviously hard as well, but I think the chances of a clean rider winning there is bigger than in the big stage races.
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 06-06-2013 12:12
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Oops, that was a bit confusing
Well, I was talking mainly about stage races earlier. Classics are obviously hard as well, but I think the chances of a clean rider winning there is bigger than in the big stage races.
Just admit it clean riders are winning everything and everything in the world is pink and fluffly and wonderful!
There are Big Bad Wolves out there but more and more houses are made from bricks (currently new EPO test bricks) and I'm not going to let that ruin my fluffy day! |
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