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Giro d'Italia 2012 - Week 3
lluuiiggii
No comments on Liqui-fail? Setting the pace all the way up the mountain in pretty much all mountain stages so that Basso could manage a 5th place :lol:
 
Alakagom
ruben wrote:
LOL Porte the best climber along Nordhaug
Hilarious.

Henao and Uran in a GT rip Porte apart.


We'll see at the Tour about Porte.

Disagreed with Uran. He did nothing spectacular at this Giro. Followed favourite's wheel, never really attacked. Porte this season could have done the same and will be rewarded with Tour place.

About Nordhaug and Porte, meant most improved this season at Sky. No Nordhaug ? He beat Henao at Vais Pasco and was better until the crash at Amstel too ? I expected that type of performance from Henao, unlike Nordhaug and Porte.
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xmaniacxx
Why is Taylor Phinny so low in the odds? If he wins i get more as 600 PCM$ (h)
 
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Just to be different, I'll say that I think Rodriguez pulls off the time trial of his life and hangs on to la Maglia Rosa.

Hesjedal will be very close, but De Gendt is too far back.
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Alakagom
xmaniacxx wrote:
Why is Taylor Phinny so low in the odds? If he wins i get more as 600 PCM$ (h)


Recuperation. He suffered everyday while e.g. Larson didn't as much. Plus he is still unproven of how he will do in a TT after 20 tough stages.
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FreitasPCM
Truth being said, what has Nordhaug done special in these big climbs?

EDIT: Ok, Col D'Ospedale, but that isn't the toughest of climbs out there.
Edited by FreitasPCM on 26-05-2012 18:45
 
I_Mayo
Alakagom wrote:
ruben wrote:
LOL Porte the best climber along Nordhaug
Hilarious.

Henao and Uran in a GT rip Porte apart.


We'll see at the Tour about Porte.

Disagreed with Uran. He did nothing spectacular at this Giro. Followed favourite's wheel, never really attacked. Porte this season could have done the same and will be rewarded with Tour place.


Nothing spectacular? If you didn't notice Uran rode this Giro without any giornata nos or whatever Italians calls it. And you say it like riding in same pace as leading group in every crucial stage is just easy breezy. I strongly doubt that Richie would have achieved same result.
 
felix_29
Lampre also failed today, they did not even try to limit Scarponis damage and the only chance to finsih on the podium is to overtake Rodriguez.
Hesjedal has the best position to win the Giro now, i think de Gendt will be runner-up and Rodriguez third.

As for Ferrari, i just hope he won´t see Cavendish again. If he does, he´ll wake up in hospital. Pfft
 
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Alakagom
I_Mayo wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
ruben wrote:
LOL Porte the best climber along Nordhaug
Hilarious.

Henao and Uran in a GT rip Porte apart.


We'll see at the Tour about Porte.

Disagreed with Uran. He did nothing spectacular at this Giro. Followed favourite's wheel, never really attacked. Porte this season could have done the same and will be rewarded with Tour place.


Nothing spectacular? If you didn't notice Uran rode this Giro without any giornata nos or whatever Italians calls it. And you say it like riding in same pace as leading group in every crucial stage is just easy breezy. I strongly doubt that Richie would have achieved same result.


To me he rode as expected, had few bad days and few better. He followed some of best climbers in the world but never looked likely to do anything major against them. It's no mean feat to do so and I am really pleased with how Uran performed here. But saying so I think Porte would have done similarly to him, yea. We'll see how Porte does at Tour, but I definitely think he would have done similarly to Uran at this Giro having closely followed him this season.

About Nordhaug, the longer climbs are uknown a bit, indeed. But he definitely is Sky most improved rider in the team this year. Compared him to last season he's a very different rider now.
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Squire
lluuiiggii wrote:
No comments on Liqui-fail? Setting the pace all the way up the mountain in pretty much all mountain stages so that Basso could manage a 5th place :lol:


The only fail there would be Basso (and Szmyd), who just didn't have it. His team played the tactic best suited to his strengths. At least they tried, right?
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lluuiiggii wrote:
No comments on Liqui-fail? Setting the pace all the way up the mountain in pretty much all mountain stages so that Basso could manage a 5th place :lol:


If Liquigas wouldn't have done the pace, nobody would have done so.
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Squire wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
No comments on Liqui-fail? Setting the pace all the way up the mountain in pretty much all mountain stages so that Basso could manage a 5th place :lol:


The only fail there would be Basso (and Szmyd), who just didn't have it. His team played the tactic best suited to his strengths. At least they tried, right?


This.

There's no faulting Basso or Rodríguez. Both played tactically to maximize their strengths and to minimize their weaknesses.

If you want to criticize, criticize Lampre, Sky and Garmin. Those were the idiots.
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valverde321
If Garmin win the Giro tomorrow, I hardly see how they failed.


 
kumazan
issoisso wrote:
Squire wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
No comments on Liqui-fail? Setting the pace all the way up the mountain in pretty much all mountain stages so that Basso could manage a 5th place :lol:


The only fail there would be Basso (and Szmyd), who just didn't have it. His team played the tactic best suited to his strengths. At least they tried, right?


This.

There's no faulting Basso or Rodríguez. Both played tactically to maximize their strengths and to minimize their weaknesses.

If you want to criticize, criticize Lampre, Sky and Garmin. Those were the idiots.


I'm not sure about Rodríguez.
 
issoisso
valverde321 wrote:
If Garmin win the Giro tomorrow, I hardly see how they failed.



They tried very damn hard to throw it away

kumazan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Squire wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
No comments on Liqui-fail? Setting the pace all the way up the mountain in pretty much all mountain stages so that Basso could manage a 5th place :lol:


The only fail there would be Basso (and Szmyd), who just didn't have it. His team played the tactic best suited to his strengths. At least they tried, right?


This.

There's no faulting Basso or Rodríguez. Both played tactically to maximize their strengths and to minimize their weaknesses.

If you want to criticize, criticize Lampre, Sky and Garmin. Those were the idiots.


I'm not sure about Rodríguez.


He can't do long efforts
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kumazan
issoisso wrote:
He can't do long efforts


a) Based on what?

b) What do you call a 'long effort'?
 
ruben
@nordhaug-supporter: yeah he beat Henao at hilly stages. In actual mountains Henao will eat him for breakfast and have him for lucnh
 
issoisso
kumazan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
He can't do long efforts


a) Based on what?

b) What do you call a 'long effort'?


Name one time he tried to solo for more than just a few short kms.
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Alakagom
ruben wrote:
@nordhaug-supporter: yeah he beat Henao at hilly stages. In actual mountains Henao will eat him for breakfast and have him for lucnh


I know. It's kinda obvious. It still doesn't stop Nordhaug being Sky's most improved rider this season Wink Smile
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kissaha
ruben wrote:
@nordhaug-supporter: yeah he beat Henao at hilly stages. In actual mountains Henao will eat him for breakfast and have him for lucnh


Nordhaug is a good climber, but I can't imagine he could match Henao/Uran in the Giro.
 
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