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| clamel |
Posted on 16-05-2015 23:42
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Two sprinters on a climb like Mt Baldy.
Amazing performance, but surely Henao, Ten Dam or Gesink should have put them to shame.
Alaphilippe is perhaps another new French GC man for the future. France have riders popping out everywhere the last 2-3 years after a very long time in the shadows.
The last stage will be a nailbiter ....
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| Malkael |
Posted on 16-05-2015 23:45
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sutty68 wrote:
Is there any intermediate sprints on tomorrow's stage ?
There is one on the profile during the finish circuit around Rose Bowl, so at least one intermediate sprint.
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Posted on 16-05-2015 23:46
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baseballlover312 wrote:
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What the actual hell was this race? Honestly to not a have a climber win this race will be embarrassing to the organization.
Outside of maybe Henao, who else do you think should of won? Its a weak field with most of the "big name" climbers out of form. Alaphilippe is talented and clearly having a huge season
Certainly the lack of a field is partly why this is embarrassing. When Peter Sagan is 6th on a mountain top finish and 2nd overall to another puncheur/sprinter, he can be proud of himself, but it really it tells you how crappy the racing was this year. it's also probably the fault of the course, for having so many pure sprint stages, and only one MTF.
I really wish Talansky had been here now, although Dombo put in a great ride
They really could do a lot more with the route, the field is weak this year but having Sagan or Alaphilippe win isn't such a bad thing especially with Sagan being such a big name...
Dombrowski is starting to look like the rider he once was and maybe the move to Garmin-Connondale might work
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Posted on 16-05-2015 23:46
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No wonder Etixx can't be fucked with Kwiatkowski. In matter of 2 months they already got a better version 
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Posted on 16-05-2015 23:48
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This last stage has taken on more significance now after todays action |
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Posted on 16-05-2015 23:48
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Haimar Zubeldia looking good for a sixth place finish in the general classification, best placed rider for Trek Factory Racing ahead of Riccardo Zoidl. Almost sneaking his way in to the Top Five and fifth or fourth as well, with Robert Gesink and Joe Dombrowski only one and two seconds ahead of him respectively.
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Posted on 16-05-2015 23:54
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Strydz wrote:
Outside of maybe Henao, who else do you think should of won? Its a weak field with most of the "big name" climbers out of form
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Posted on 16-05-2015 23:58
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Strydz wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
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They really could do a lot more with the route, the field is weak this year but having Sagan or Alaphilippe win isn't such a bad thing especially with Sagan being such a big name...
Dombrowski is starting to look like the rider he once was and maybe the move to Garmin-Connondale might work
The enforced change to the individual time trial route likely did not help, with the alternate parcours they arranged at short notice arguably helping boost Sagan's chances.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 17-05-2015 00:08
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Thatguyeveryonehates wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Outside of maybe Henao, who else do you think should of won? Its a weak field with most of the "big name" climbers out of form
That's really hilarious considering the opinions and obvious suspicions people have of them, yet at least they were climbers and could work together!
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Posted on 17-05-2015 00:23
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Strydz wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
What the actual hell was this race? Honestly to not a have a climber win this race will be embarrassing to the organization.
Outside of maybe Henao, who else do you think should of won? Its a weak field with most of the "big name" climbers out of form. Alaphilippe is talented and clearly having a huge season
Certainly the lack of a field is partly why this is embarrassing. When Peter Sagan is 6th on a mountain top finish and 2nd overall to another puncheur/sprinter, he can be proud of himself, but it really it tells you how crappy the racing was this year. it's also probably the fault of the course, for having so many pure sprint stages, and only one MTF.
I really wish Talansky had been here now, although Dombo put in a great ride
They really could do a lot more with the route, the field is weak this year but having Sagan or Alaphilippe win isn't such a bad thing especially with Sagan being such a big name...
Dombrowski is starting to look like the rider he once was and maybe the move to Garmin-Connondale might work
Yes, the field i weak, but not compared to the other editions. California doesn't often have a strong field. The only one i can remember was the 2011 field. |
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Posted on 17-05-2015 01:32
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The enforced change to the individual time trial route likely did not help, with the alternate parcours they arranged at short notice arguably helping boost Sagan's chances.
He wouldn't have even been in the jersey if the original TT was kept.
I love this race but they moved the TT under pretty sketchy circumstances all most likely to help Sagan who is the King of this race from a money standpoint.
I have been Baldys biggest proponent but even with this years weak field it was a terrible day honestly. Supposedly the time was fast but that was a terrible lead up to the mountain. It was a fucking coast job where anyone could have hung on until the last 7 KM. Watching the Gesink win shit he was facing pressure from 20 km out and was the same on the other Baldy days.
Great for Alaphilippe though as I would never knock a new face who was the most exciting guy on the mountain today. |
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Posted on 17-05-2015 01:34
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Yes, the field i weak, but not compared to the other editions. California doesn't often have a strong field. The only one i can remember was the 2011 field.
This was by far the weakest field from a GC standpoint in years.
There was one actual GC name in Henao. Sure some good riders and we saw how good one of them was today but from an actual team leader standpoint we were looking at 2 or 3 legit team leaders from pro tour teams every year. This year we didnt have a single one. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 17-05-2015 07:00
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Fantastic performance from Sagan, who again found his climbing legs in preparation for Tour (he will need that to challenge green). Sagan is king of California, this race is all about him in last couple of editions.
Alaphilippe...well, crazy.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 17-05-2015 07:05
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Movistar wrote:
Yes, the field i weak, but not compared to the other editions. California doesn't often have a strong field. The only one i can remember was the 2011 field.
This was by far the weakest field from a GC standpoint in years.
There was one actual GC name in Henao. Sure some good riders and we saw how good one of them was today but from an actual team leader standpoint we were looking at 2 or 3 legit team leaders from pro tour teams every year. This year we didnt have a single one.
Agree 100%! 2011 was a standout year obviously but its always been a good race but this years addition just doesn't have it
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 17-05-2015 07:06
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Alaphilippe shouldn't be that good. He literally didn't stop going hard up that final climb.
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Posted on 17-05-2015 07:33
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Weak year for the GC guys, but good to see another big name sprinter (Cav) here to challenge Sagan in the flat stages, which looks to have worked out well for all involved with Cavendish getting wins, Sagan got a win and probably will take the GC.
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Posted on 17-05-2015 07:46
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It was really nice to see Boswell and Dombrowski high in the GC. Back in Bontrager years. Would have been cool if Craddock had been there as well.
Alaphilippe just wow. I always thought he was some kind of sprinter who comes over the hills quite well. Since the Ardennes I thought he was more a Gilbert like of rider with great hill climbing and a good sprint then.
Now in California he is showing time trial and climbing skills as well.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 17-05-2015 08:41
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Boswell and Dombrowski 
Sagan will win this. He's only 2 seconds behind Alaphilippe. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 17-05-2015 09:17
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Interesting to see the final climb times and effort up Mt Baldy on Strava, couple of examples here:
https://www.strav...7209855839
https://www.strav...7207757937
One thing that strikes me about the top pros is their heart rate data often seems low on Strava for these segments. Take Britton's ride where he is clearly going into the red (well deep into threshold) as you'd expect then compare with Gesink who barely gets out of tempo heart rate wise :/
Either the heart rate data is off or something else is the limiting factor - effort?  No, I'm sure he was trying but if the data is accurate Gesink's numbers don't make much sense to me whereas Britton's is exactly what I'd expect to see.
Seems to be a common theme when I view the top pros rides. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 17-05-2015 09:39
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Nicely spotted. But Gesink named the ride "Good legs, no great legs". Probably if he had great legs he'd be more able to get into the red zone. So, in this case his legs maybe just wern't there to push him that hard after many stages the days before and some kilometers ahead of Mt Baldy.
If he had great legs, he should have been in any case way faster than Dombrowski and Boswell.
It's at least something I have encountered many countless times with myself: If your legs are up to it you can go and stay longer in the red zone. If they arn't, you're happy to go with a certain pace but are unable to dig really deep, although you like to go faster and your body could allow it but your legs just ain't working the way you want them?
Edited by Shonak on 17-05-2015 09:40
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