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TdF'13 Stage 10: Saint-Gildas-des-Bois to Saint-Malo (July 9)
baseballlover312
admirschleck wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

bblover is right here. Cav should be thrown out! Veelers was going on straight line (repeat video multiple times to see that,please!) and Cav, for some unknown reason (not saying that he wanted to do that) gone left and cleaned up him from road.

Clean as Froome's win this year.


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Pellizotti2
Still looks rather intentional to me. He even bumps Veelers with his elbow. If that is in fact the case, it's a clear DQ to me.

I could of course be mistaken. Relegation should be enough as long as he apologizes.
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Mwuhi
Ah, I see, Veelers slipped away a bit, on the white lines. Unlucky to the wrong side. And Cav was probably going to just pass him, if Veelers didn't slipped away.

Still dangerous action as he could have hit the frontwheel of Veelers too.
 
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This: gyazo.com/3404729f14c99eddf22f8b083f3cd9f6.png
 
alexkr00
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

Come on. Someone has to be with me. You don't take a guy out and get away with it. Cycling isn't a contact sport!


Spilak is right. If Veelers wouldn't have been slowing down, he wouldn't have crashed

Like, I said "shoulder to shoulder" are a normal thing in sprints

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baseballlover312
WQell, maybe he shouldn't be thrown out, but a dq of the results and a fine should be a formality.
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Wilier
Kirchen_75 wrote:
This: gyazo.com/3404729f14c99eddf22f8b083f3cd9f6.png


Lol Cav didn't kept his line at all.
 
Spilak23
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Still looks rather intentional to me. He even bumps Veelers with his elbow. If that is in fact the case, it's a clear DQ to me.

I could of course be mistaken. Relegation should be enough as long as he apologizes.


Who on earth would Cav have the intention to take out Veelers?
 
baseballlover312
alexkr00 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

Come on. Someone has to be with me. You don't take a guy out and get away with it. Cycling isn't a contact sport!


Spilak is right. If Veelers wouldn't have been slowing down, he wouldn't have crashed

Like, I said "shoulder to shoulder" are a normal thing in sprints

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That doesn't mean winging into the guy with your elbow.
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Spilak23
alexkr00 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

Come on. Someone has to be with me. You don't take a guy out and get away with it. Cycling isn't a contact sport!


Spilak is right. If Veelers wouldn't have been slowing down, he wouldn't have crashed

Like, I said "shoulder to shoulder" are a normal thing in sprints

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McEwen did it more than once Pfft
 
wackojackohighcliffe
Wilier wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
This: gyazo.com/3404729f14c99eddf22f8b083f3cd9f6.png


Lol Cav didn't kept his line at all.


Yeah, they both failed to keep their line, that's a no-brainer. The question is of intention.
 
doddy13
My opinion is that it was clearly Cavendish's fault.
A DQ would be a over reaction.

A relegation and fine would be enough, the only way a DQ would be merited is if Cavendish didn't make the move and apologize for what he did.
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baseballlover312
Spilak23 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Still looks rather intentional to me. He even bumps Veelers with his elbow. If that is in fact the case, it's a clear DQ to me.

I could of course be mistaken. Relegation should be enough as long as he apologizes.


Who on earth would Cav have the intention to take out Veelers?


IDK. Because he was mad about being too far from the front to win and could?
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Spilak23
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Still looks rather intentional to me. He even bumps Veelers with his elbow. If that is in fact the case, it's a clear DQ to me.

I could of course be mistaken. Relegation should be enough as long as he apologizes.


Who on earth would Cav have the intention to take out Veelers?


IDK. Because he was mad about being too far from the front to win and could?


There were still 200 metres left when it happened. He hadn't lost yet. He was aiming for the win, not thinking about taking Veelers out..
Edited by Spilak23 on 09-07-2013 17:15
 
wackojackohighcliffe
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Still looks rather intentional to me. He even bumps Veelers with his elbow. If that is in fact the case, it's a clear DQ to me.

I could of course be mistaken. Relegation should be enough as long as he apologizes.


Who on earth would Cav have the intention to take out Veelers?


IDK. Because he was mad about being too far from the front to win and could?


Bullshit. If it was, it's because Veelers moved to block him, he's not that petty.
 
alexkr00
baseballlover312 wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

Come on. Someone has to be with me. You don't take a guy out and get away with it. Cycling isn't a contact sport!


Spilak is right. If Veelers wouldn't have been slowing down, he wouldn't have crashed

Like, I said "shoulder to shoulder" are a normal thing in sprints

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That doesn't mean winging into the guy with your elbow.


Again. If Veelers would have also been sprinting we would have seen the same picture as above. But, he looked behind (wtf?!) saw it was Cav that is behind him and not Kittel so he decided to slow down
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wogsrus
It doesn't matter if Veelers slows down, it happens in every single sprint. Making that as an excuse is utterly pathetic. Don't think Cav meant it, he wanted to grab Kittel's back wheel and cut the move around Veelers to fine. Relegation from stage at most.
 
baseballlover312
Spilak23 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Still looks rather intentional to me. He even bumps Veelers with his elbow. If that is in fact the case, it's a clear DQ to me.

I could of course be mistaken. Relegation should be enough as long as he apologizes.


Who on earth would Cav have the intention to take out Veelers?


IDK. Because he was mad about being too far from the front to win and could?


There were still 200 metres left when it happened. He hadn't lost yet. He was aiming for the win, not thinking about taking Veelers out..


He was way outside where he wanted to be.
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jph27
Why would Cav hit him intentionally? It slowed him down and probably cost him a shot at the win - although Kittel was flying. Veelers brought it upon himself, and is far more deserving of a DQ. And before all the Germans come winging in, that was nowhere near Greipel causing the stage 1 crash, which went unpunished.

Rant over. Tea and biscuits anyone? Smile
 
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