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| tellico |
Posted on 29-07-2012 16:33
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Lachi wrote:
I am pretty sure that the MO stat is not used in this stage. Therefore it makes no sense to compare the MO stats of your riders.
Stage is labeled like a mountain. Slope is 10-12%. Evans, Kessiakof, Gerrans, Daniel Martin etc rides 4km/h (effort 80). If this is not mountain... well then even more: WTF is going on? |
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Posted on 29-07-2012 16:33
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This stage, is clasified "hill" and therefore this happens.
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Posted on 29-07-2012 16:34
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edit: wrong information above.
Edited by Lachi on 29-07-2012 16:39
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Posted on 29-07-2012 16:35
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Actually I just checked it and it was classified as mountain stage. But as said just 33% mountain and 66% hill.
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Posted on 29-07-2012 16:39
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Why can it be that a stage is classified as mountain stage but the hill stat is used?
Bad game programming? Bad stage editor programming? Bad stage design? Bad DB?
But as far as I know you cannot fix such problems in the DB anymore, so it must be either game or stage editor bug.
Edited by Lachi on 29-07-2012 16:40
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Posted on 29-07-2012 16:40
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I think the people expecting crazy realistic wars of atrition need to recognize that the very format of the stages makes this difficult in that the "shortened" scale of everything would require very crazy and herky-jerky rider movements to get that correct.
And the game simply can´t display 10 riders within 40 seconds that will also build 5-10 "groups"/single riders in the end.
Heck, sprints are 3 (1 on mountains) KM long for crying out loud.
I´m very happy with the way things are going right now with the weaker riders being dropped going over the summits (in real life they´d be gone halfway up, but who cares really ?) , then smaller groups building in the end.
Career Result from the Ciclista Catalunya (toughest stage there, stage 3)
Rank Name Team Time Player
1 Chris Anker Sørensen Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank 6h02'06
2 Daniel Moreno Katusha Team s.t.
3 Vladimir Karpets Movistar Team s.t.
4 Nicolas Roche AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
5 Daniel Navarro Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
6 Ivan Basso Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
7 Matteo Carrara Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
8 Johann Tschopp BMC Racing Team s.t.
9 Andreas Klöden RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
10 Roman Kreuziger Astana Pro Team s.t.
11 Ángel Vicioso Katusha Team s.t.
12 Tejay Van Garderen POSTAL CYCLING TEAM + 1'02 Whomario
13 Matthias Frank BMC Racing Team + 1'14
14 Jens Voigt RadioShack - Nissan + 2'18
15 Kanstantsin Siutsou Sky Procycling s.t.
16 Ryder Hesjedal Garmin - Sharp s.t.
17 Dario Cataldo Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
18 David Millar Garmin - Sharp s.t.
19 Tanel Kangert Astana Pro Team s.t.
20 Valerio Agnoli Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
21 Jan Bakelants RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
22 Javier Moreno Movistar Team + 4'19
more :
Spoiler 23 Jesús Herrada Movistar Team s.t.
24 Jürgen Van de Walle Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
25 Vasil Kiryienka POSTAL CYCLING TEAM + 6'50 Whomario
26 Carlos Barredo Rabobank Cycling Team + 7'34
27 Tony Martin Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
28 Igor Antón Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
29 Jérémy Roy FDJ - BigMat s.t.
30 Marcos García Caja Rural s.t.
31 Francesco Masciarelli Astana Pro Team s.t.
32 Joan Horrach Katusha Team s.t.
33 Martin Elmiger AG2R La Mondiale + 8'27
34 Yury Trofimov Katusha Team s.t.
35 Bradley Wiggins Sky Procycling + 8'42
36 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.
37 Przemyslaw Niemiec Lampre - ISD s.t.
38 Julián Sánchez Pimienta Caja Rural s.t.
39 Egoi Martínez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
40 Alexandr Kolobnev Katusha Team s.t.
41 Gianni Meersman Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
42 Miguel Mínguez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
43 Andrey Amador Movistar Team s.t.
44 Gorka Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
45 Daniel Martin Garmin - Sharp s.t.
46 Maciej Paterski Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
47 Eros Capecchi Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
48 Denis Menchov Katusha Team s.t.
49 Cyril Lemoine Saur - Sojasun s.t.
50 Amaël Moinard BMC Racing Team s.t.
51 Vincenzo Nibali Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
52 Thomas Löfkvist Sky Procycling s.t.
53 Bram Tankink Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
54 Haimar Zubeldia RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
55 Jean-Christophe Peraud AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
56 Janez Brajkovič Astana Pro Team s.t.
57 Robert Kiserlovski Astana Pro Team s.t.
58 Mikaël Chérel AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
59 Imanol Erviti Movistar Team s.t.
60 Jesús Hernández Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
61 Peter Velits Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 9'51
62 Frantisek Rabon Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
63 Andrew Talansky Garmin - Sharp s.t.
64 Marco Pinotti BMC Racing Team + 11'24
65 Sergey Lagutin Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team + 11'56
66 Kevin De Weert Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 13'37
67 Jonathan Castroviejo Movistar Team s.t.
68 Grischa Niermann POSTAL CYCLING TEAM s.t. Whomario
69 Benoît Vaugrenard FDJ - BigMat + 14'19
70 Jérémie Galland Saur - Sojasun s.t.
71 Bauke Mollema Rabobank Cycling Team + 14'32
72 Javier Ramírez Abeja Andalucía s.t.
73 Michael Barry Sky Procycling + 14'52
74 Anthony Roux FDJ - BigMat s.t.
75 Thibaut Pinot FDJ - BigMat s.t.
76 Andrey Zeits Astana Pro Team s.t.
77 Mattia Cattaneo POSTAL CYCLING TEAM s.t. Whomario
78 Levi Leipheimer Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
79 Frederik Willems Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
80 Assan Bazayev Astana Pro Team s.t.
81 Fabio Duarte POSTAL CYCLING TEAM s.t. Whomario
82 Juan José Cobo Movistar Team s.t.
83 Ivan Santaromita BMC Racing Team s.t.
84 Joseph Dombrowski POSTAL CYCLING TEAM s.t. Whomario
85 Markel Irizar RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
86 Paolo Longo Borghini Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
87 Gerald Ciolek Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
88 Michael Mørkøv Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
89 Federico Canuti Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
90 Anthony Geslin FDJ - BigMat s.t.
91 Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team s.t.
92 Mikhail Ignatiev Katusha Team s.t.
93 Jakob Rathe Garmin - Sharp + 17'08
94 Maarten Tjallingii Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
95 Salvatore Puccio Sky Procycling s.t.
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Posted on 29-07-2012 16:45
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Yes, the 1:10 scale is a real killer for the realism but sadly Cyanide might never change it.
Cyanide tries to make the game LOOK as real as possible but this prevents the races to BE as real as possible. |
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Posted on 29-07-2012 16:54
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Lachi wrote:
Yes, the 1:10 scale is a real killer for the realism but sadly Cyanide might never change it.
Cyanide tries to make the game LOOK as real as possible but this prevents the races to BE as real as possible.
just the final climb and/or the last 5 KM in a spring or 20 in a classic race being in a bigger scale (1:3 f.e.) would be nice.
Because in general i rather live with a bit of a lack of realism but still being able to actually get in a ton of races. It´s just that people have to come to grips with the limitations and see it as a game. And as a game, imo it´s realistic as in "logical" in how things happen.
Did anybody ever play the old Cycling game named Team Telekom Eurotour Cycling ? That was 1:1 scale and boy did it grow boring until the final climb (i think you could speed way up though, maybe 32x speed. Of course, it also crashed every other stage on a bad day  ) . But yeah, the final climbs in 1:1 scale were pretty epic |
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Posted on 29-07-2012 16:58
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In HILL Martin was still 77 vs 72 but igonring this was mountain or hilly stage... This is ridiculous: 77 MO 77 HILL guy on free effort 82 practically is stationary (4km/h) with pulse 186 when 61 MO 72 HILL guy have pulse 160 and follows him with no problem and after 3-4km on the 10-12% passed him. Its something wrong with engine in this car. |
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Posted on 29-07-2012 17:17
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The KmH display seems wrong anyway (allways lower than IRL), but it´s not like it has an impact on the game as it´s wrong for everybody then.
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Posted on 29-07-2012 17:29
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OK, so everybody rides 4km/h no matter how good are they in mountains/hills and Evans, Martin, Sanchez has no chance to ride away even on free effort 85 beacause everybody stays in the same one place. Great.
EDIT: Next stage, last in Tour of Oman: flat with small but stiff hill on the start, Martin passed all peloton with no problem. 15km/h on the 15,3% slope with 66 free effort...
Maybe this 5th stage is f...d up, i dont know...
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roturn wrote:
Actually I just checked it and it was classified as mountain stage. But as said just 33% mountain and 66% hill.
First of all sorry because this question has no doubt been asked before but where in the editor can i find this information. I searched the forum and came up with a blank and i'm after looking in Lachi's editor for a column with gene_mountain but be damned if i can find it or even something similar. |
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cilldroichid wrote:
roturn wrote:
Actually I just checked it and it was classified as mountain stage. But as said just 33% mountain and 66% hill.
First of all sorry because this question has no doubt been asked before but where in the editor can i find this information. I searched the forum and came up with a blank and i'm after looking in Lachi's editor for a column with gene_mountain but be damned if i can find it or even something similar.
I think you can see it ingame. When you look at the bottom of the screen were the races are you can see some have a icon. A small hill is a hilly race, if there is a mountain it's a mountain stage and a clock is TT.
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Posted on 29-07-2012 21:13
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cilldroichid wrote:
roturn wrote:
Actually I just checked it and it was classified as mountain stage. But as said just 33% mountain and 66% hill.
First of all sorry because this question has no doubt been asked before but where in the editor can i find this information. I searched the forum and came up with a blank and i'm after looking in Lachi's editor for a column with gene_mountain but be damned if i can find it or even something similar.
You can see it by opening the stage info (.cds file) with the Stage Viewer/Editor. It used to be included in STA_stage in the .cdb files as well, but in PCM12 this is 'automatic'.
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Posted on 29-07-2012 22:30
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Thanks lluuiiggii, i think i've found where it is.
I ran the CTStageViewer.exe in the C:\Program Files (x86)\Cyanide\Pro Cycling Manager - Season 2012 folder, then under File, Open stage data i can open the .cds files. For example the Trofeo Zssdi is the file c2_zssdi_2012.cds ( i presume) and it has Gene_f_Mountain altitude = 0.14 in the stage data, among other things. Which if i understand correctly means 86% hill/14% mountain, even though it has the mountain stage icon ingame. |
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Posted on 29-07-2012 22:34
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Yeah, that's correct.
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Trofeo Deia (not a MO stage, but realistic results nevertheless), career mode:
Spoiler 1 Luis León Sánchez Rabobank Cycling Team 3h59'27
2 Roman Kreuziger Astana Pro Team s.t.
3 Fabio Duarte Colombia - Coldeportes s.t.
4 Edvald Boasson Hagen Sky Procycling s.t.
5 Xabier Zandio Sky Procycling s.t.
6 David López Movistar Team s.t.
7 Marco Pinotti BMC Racing Team s.t.
8 Simon Spilak Katusha Team + 54
9 Dario Cataldo Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
10 David Zabriskie Garmin - Sharp s.t.
11 Esteban Chavez Colombia - Coldeportes s.t.
12 Julien El Fares Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
13 Igor Antón Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
14 Pablo Urtasun Euskaltel - Euskadi + 2'48
15 Pablo Lastras Movistar Team s.t.
16 Joan Horrach Katusha Team s.t.
17 Rigoberto Urán Sky Procycling s.t.
18 Daniel Navarro Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
19 Fabio Felline Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
20 Grischa Niermann Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
21 Damiano Cunego Lampre - ISD s.t.
22 Francisco José Ventoso Movistar Team s.t.
23 Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team s.t.
24 David Arroyo Movistar Team s.t.
25 Paul Martens Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
26 Guillaume Levarlet Saur - Sojasun s.t.
27 Vladimir Gusev Katusha Team + 4'45
28 Francesco Gavazzi Astana Pro Team + 5'46
29 Janez Brajkovič Astana Pro Team s.t.
30 Przemyslaw Niemiec Lampre - ISD s.t.
31 Daniele Pietropolli Lampre - ISD s.t.
32 John Degenkolb Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
33 José Serpa Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
34 Matthew Lloyd Lampre - ISD s.t.
35 Fabrice Jeandesboz Saur - Sojasun s.t.
36 David Le Lay Saur - Sojasun s.t.
37 Manuel Quinziato BMC Racing Team s.t.
38 Daniel Martin Garmin - Sharp s.t.
39 José Joaquín Rojas Movistar Team + 9'02
40 Preben Van Hecke Topsport Vlaanderen - Mercator s.t.
41 Ricardo García Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
42 Alexandr Kolobnev Katusha Team s.t.
43 Alberto Losada Katusha Team s.t.
44 Rubens Bertogliati Team Type 1 - Sanofi + 10'14
45 Nick Nuyens Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
46 Enrico Gasparotto Astana Pro Team s.t.
47 Dimitriy Muravyev Astana Pro Team s.t.
48 Timothy Roe BMC Racing Team s.t.
49 Alexander Efimkin Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
50 Michael Barry Sky Procycling s.t.
51 Daniele Callegarin Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
52 Aitor Galdos Caja Rural + 11'24
53 Fabricio Ferrari Caja Rural s.t.
54 Julián Sánchez Pimienta Caja Rural s.t.
55 Michael Rodriguez Colombia - Coldeportes + 13'18
56 Juan Forero Colombia - Coldeportes s.t.
57 Juan Antonio Flecha Sky Procycling s.t.
58 Alessandro Spezialetti Lampre - ISD s.t.
59 Yann Huguet Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
60 Javier Megías Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
61 Frank Osorio Colombia - Coldeportes s.t.
62 Víctor Hugo Peña Colombia - Coldeportes s.t.
63 Frantisek Rabon Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
64 Maxim Belkov Katusha Team s.t.
65 Andrey Kashechkin Astana Pro Team + 14'15
66 Koen De Kort Team Argos - Shimano + 16'58
67 Francisco Javier Moreno Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
68 Laszló Bodrogi Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
69 Jesús Hernández Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
70 Wilco Kelderman Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
71 Sep Vanmarcke Garmin - Sharp s.t.
72 Ion Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
73 Karsten Kroon Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
74 Amets Txurruka Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
75 Andriy Grivko Astana Pro Team s.t.
76 Nicki Sørensen Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
77 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team s.t.
78 Tejay Van Garderen BMC Racing Team s.t.
79 Bernhard Eisel Sky Procycling s.t.
80 Luke Rowe Sky Procycling s.t.
81 Serge Pauwels Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
82 Bert De Backer Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
83 Stephen Cummings BMC Racing Team s.t.
84 Johan Vansummeren Garmin - Sharp s.t.
85 Juan Manuel Gárate Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
86 José Rujano Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
87 John Darwin Atapuma Colombia - Coldeportes s.t.
88 Carlos Quintero Colombia - Coldeportes s.t.
89 Jesús Herrada Movistar Team s.t.
90 Juan José Cobo Movistar Team s.t.
91 Manuel Cardoso Caja Rural + 18'46
92 Cyril Bessy Saur - Sojasun s.t.
93 Roberto Ferrari Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
94 Gustavo César Veloso Andalucía s.t.
95 Julian Kern Leopard - Trek Continental Team s.t.
96 André Greipel Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
97 Pello Bilbao Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
98 Alejandro Marque Porto Carmim - Prio s.t.
99 Adrián Palomares Andalucía s.t.
100 Frederik Willems Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
101 George Hincapie BMC Racing Team s.t.
102 Yannick Talabardon Saur - Sojasun s.t.
103 Omar Fraile Orbea Continental s.t.
104 Roy Curvers Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
105 Romain Zingle Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
106 Giairo Ermeti Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
107 Nicolas Vogondy Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
108 Jacopo Guarnieri Astana Pro Team s.t.
109 Stéphane Poulhiès Saur - Sojasun s.t.
110 Jérôme Coppel Saur - Sojasun s.t.
111 Bart De Clercq Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
112 Benjamín Noval Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
113 José Luis Roldán Andalucía s.t.
114 Kevin De Weert Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
115 Sérgio Paulinho Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
116 Nicolas Edet Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
117 Martin Velits Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
118 Davide Cimolai Lampre - ISD + 19'59
119 Ben Swift Sky Procycling + 20'39
120 Tom Stamsnijder Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
121 Martin Kohler BMC Racing Team s.t.
122 Andrew Fenn Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team + 21'53
123 Jorge Azanza Euskaltel - Euskadi + 22'48
124 Olivier Kaisen Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
125 Francis De Greef Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
126 Manuele Mori Lampre - ISD + 23'54
127 Jesús Rosendo Andalucía s.t.
128 Thierry Hupond Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
129 Roger Kluge Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
130 Pieter Vanspeybroeck Topsport Vlaanderen - Mercator + 24'35
131 Alessandro De Marchi Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
132 André Cardoso Caja Rural s.t.
133 Martijn Maaskant Garmin - Sharp s.t.
134 Luis Ángel Maté Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
135 Alexander Serebryakov Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
136 Laurens Ten Dam Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
137 Nathan Haas Garmin - Sharp s.t.
138 Bob Jungels Leopard - Trek Continental Team s.t.
139 Koldo Fernández Garmin - Sharp s.t.
140 Egoitz García Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
141 Martijn Verschoor Team Type 1 - Sanofi s.t.
142 Robert Hunter Garmin - Sharp s.t.
143 Michael Van Staeyen Topsport Vlaanderen - Mercator + 26'26
144 Mikel Bizkarra Orbea Continental s.t.
145 Miguel Ubeto Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
146 Kenny De Ketele Topsport Vlaanderen - Mercator s.t.
147 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Carmim - Prio s.t.
148 Tom Van Asbroeck Topsport Vlaanderen - Mercator s.t.
149 Aritz Bagües Orbea Continental s.t.
150 Francesco Lasca Caja Rural s.t.
151 Lluis Guillermo Mas Burgos BH - Castilla y León s.t.
152 Nikolas Maes Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
153 Troels Ronning Vinther Team Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank s.t.
154 Juan José Lobato Andalucía s.t.
155 Eliot Lietaer Topsport Vlaanderen - Mercator s.t.
156 Daniel Mestre Carmim - Prio s.t.
157 Jarl Salomein Topsport Vlaanderen - Mercator s.t.
158 Gert Dockx Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
159 Jon Aberasturi Orbea Continental s.t.
160 Carlos Barbero Orbea Continental s.t.
161 Francisco Manuel Antón Burgos BH - Castilla y León s.t.
162 Jean-Lou Paiani Saur - Sojasun s.t.
163 Antonio Cabello Andalucía s.t.
164 Jos Van Emden Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
165 Sander Cordeel Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
166 Giorgio Brambilla Leopard - Trek Continental Team s.t.
167 Oscar Santamaria Burgos BH - Castilla y León s.t.
168 Javier Francisco Aramendia Caja Rural s.t.
169 David Belda Burgos BH - Castilla y León s.t.
170 Edwig Cammaerts Cofidis, le crédit en ligne s.t.
171 Haritz Orbe Orbea Continental s.t.
172 Jordi Simón Andalucía s.t.
173 Igor Romero Caja Rural s.t.
174 Jesús Ezquerra Leopard - Trek Continental Team s.t.
175 Henrique Casimiro Carmim - Prio s.t.
176 Oliver Hofstetter Leopard - Trek Continental Team s.t.
177 Tosh Van der Sande Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
178 Damien Branaa Burgos BH - Castilla y León s.t.
179 Iván Velasco Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
180 Valter Pereira Carmim - Prio + 28'52
181 Damien Monier Cofidis, le crédit en ligne + 29'55
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I experienced another group sprint (30+ riders in the same time) in the TdF stage to La Toussuire, which obviously isn't realistic at all. Any chance that this was fixed in patch 1.4? |
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To illustrate my frustration, the results of the mountain stages in TdF 2012.
La Planche des Belles Filles:
Nibali
Gesink at 20s
Evans at 28s
25 riders at 40s
Porrentruy: sprint of 82 riders in the same time
Bellegarde-sur-Valserine: sprint of 23 riders in the same time
La Toussuire:
Contador
34 riders at 8s
Foix: sprint of 58 riders in the same time
Bagneres-de-Luchon; sprint of 16 riders in the same time
Peyragudes:
Contador & Wiggins
F. Schleck, Van den Broeck & Nibali at 13s
12 riders at 33s
Am I doing something wrong here? I'm riding with Rabobank and I get these results regardless of my strategy. Even when Gesink is riding at the front with 80% effort, more than 20 riders will easily keep up. This way, simulating mountain stages to get some gaps might be wiser, because now the time trials are having a way too large influence on the GC. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 11-10-2012 18:49
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I have read that the "passive multiplayer AI" might cause this, check the settings in the options. |
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