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Posted on 07-08-2011 21:09
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Maarten de Jonge has 55 on Climbing. This should be 67, judging by his results in mountain stages in Murcia and San Luis. |
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 09-08-2011 04:43
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Perhaps after Taylor Phinney's great Prologue in the Eneco Tour he could look at a bump up in the TT and Prologue stats? Currently he's 72 in TT, and 74 in prologue, and he just beat Elvald Boasson Hagen (2nd +7" and David Millar (3rd +8" they have starts of 78/79 and 80/78 in TT/PR respectively.
Not saying he should jump all the way up but somewhere maybe in the 75/76 or 75/77 range would probably be good.
Anyhow sounds like the BMC team is going to work for him to see if he can hold the Yellow. Should be a good way to find out a bit more to see how good he really is, at 20 years old, there really isn't much to go on yet.
Edited by Kentaurus on 09-08-2011 04:45
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 11-08-2011 16:11
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Top notch stats as always, awesome job making PCM playable at last 
Though I don't agree with Thomas MO stat. Guy finished 31st in TDF !!, ahead of likes of Tony Martin, LL Sanchez and many other very good climbers, think his stat should go up a bit. Or did I miss something ?
P.S. I compared stats to 0.5 version, so excuse me if that particular stat has changed in V1
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| JD317 |
Posted on 12-08-2011 00:53
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Kentaurus wrote:
Perhaps after Taylor Phinney's great Prologue in the Eneco Tour he could look at a bump up in the TT and Prologue stats? Currently he's 72 in TT, and 74 in prologue, and he just beat Elvald Boasson Hagen (2nd +7" and David Millar (3rd +8" they have starts of 78/79 and 80/78 in TT/PR respectively.
Not saying he should jump all the way up but somewhere maybe in the 75/76 or 75/77 range would probably be good.
Anyhow sounds like the BMC team is going to work for him to see if he can hold the Yellow. Should be a good way to find out a bit more to see how good he really is, at 20 years old, there really isn't much to go on yet.
and Henau as well? though in saying this, as the game is at home, i dont know what Henau is currently given in the stats
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Posted on 12-08-2011 00:58
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Henao has MO72, HI72, TT65 and potential 6. His TT could be higher looking at his latest result in Utah.
Nevertheless, it's a bit dangerous to adjust notes basing ourselves on a handful of races. Henao hasn't done anything else so far this season.
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Posted on 12-08-2011 01:03
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perhaps a bit harsh on Henau. not a bad field at all in Utah and he certainly aint no TT. so 65 might need to be bumped up a notch or two. in my opinion
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 26-08-2011 17:18
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One question.
Why on earth is Coppel and Roche better GT riders than Voeckler.
Instead of giving Coppel and Roche 76/77 in mountain and Voueckler 76. It should probabably be 72-73 for Coppel and Roche and 79 for Voeckler.
Roche won the Giro in my career in the first season. It makes no sense. He is overhyped and in real life he struggles to sneak in to Top 20 in the Tour even though he sees himself as captain. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 26-08-2011 17:27
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Iguwell wrote:
One question.
Why on earth is Coppel and Roche better GT riders than Voeckler.
Instead of giving Coppel and Roche 76/77 in mountain and Voueckler 76. It should probabably be 72-73 for Coppel and Roche and 79 for Voeckler.
Roche won the Giro in my career in the first season. It makes no sense. He is overhyped and in real life he struggles to sneak in to Top 20 in the Tour even though he sees himself as captain.
Its not all about Grand Tour results, and if you remember Voeckler got a lot of time back from being in that breakaway. Roche is a better climber than Voeckler imo. 72/73 is insanely low for Roche and Coppel too.
But actually Roche is a really under-rated sprinter too.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 31-08-2011 01:11
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I just want to share something I was thinking about. Roelandts stats are 71Fl, 72Co, 74Sp I think. I personnally think he doesn't deserve the 74Sp cause he hasn't done anything significantly in the sprints last year(s). But he showed alot this season that he has become a good baroudeur and that 71Fl is too low. He has developed as Eisel. He seems to be a potential top sprinter but has become a very good baroudeur like Eisel. His stats should look like Eisel's.
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 31-08-2011 15:26
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Juanjo Cobo has 74 in Mountain, Maybe better 76??? |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 01-09-2011 23:23
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I think that rider should have a high altatude attribute, anyone else? |
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Posted on 01-09-2011 23:25
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Thank god Pierre Rlloand got respect,
in official release him and danielson had 71's!!! Now 78 is more realistic. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 01-09-2011 23:31
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Well, official release was before the Tour, PCM Daily was after the Tour.
Would explain this jump. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 03-09-2011 02:47
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anyone else for an altutude attribute?
and anyone else think that a 78 TT is harsh on Zabriskie?
and does anyone think that Chris Horner should be a 78 or 79 on mountains instead of 77?
and Voeckler should have a 78 on Mountains instead of 76?
and he should be up on fighting spirit after the TDF?
Edited by baseballlover312 on 03-09-2011 02:48
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 03-09-2011 03:46
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baseballlover312 wrote:
anyone else for an altutude attribute?
and anyone else think that a 78 TT is harsh on Zabriskie?
and does anyone think that Chris Horner should be a 78 or 79 on mountains instead of 77?
and Voeckler should have a 78 on Mountains instead of 76?
and he should be up on fighting spirit after the TDF?
Altitude is rarely a factor (in terms of how often it comes about), and its something you should suggest in the appropriate thread anyway. (see latest News article)
Not really, he will still win TT's when he's in great form.
No. Horner is absolutely way over-rated by everyone for some reason. If you look at his results and who he beat on his occasional win, it isn't that impressive. I was pissed when he crashed out of the Tour because I wanted everyone to see how over-rated he is.
Again Voeckler made up time by being in a winning breakaway. He deserves 77 max.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 03-09-2011 04:16
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[quote]valverde321 wrote:
Altitude is rarely a factor (in terms of how often it comes about), and its something you should suggest in the appropriate thread anyway. (see latest News article)
sorry, I thoughtm that this was about stats.  |
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 03-09-2011 05:14
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Danny Pate should be at least 75 in Flat. He pulled the peloton through every single flat stage of the Tour, almost single handedly, and was key in the lead outs that won the green jersey.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 03-09-2011 14:44
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Bushwackers wrote:
Danny Pate should be at least 75 in Flat. He pulled the peloton through every single flat stage of the Tour, almost single handedly, and was key in the lead outs that won the green jersey.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 03-09-2011 14:47
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Mark Renshaw deserves mor than a 76 on sprinting, after him being Cav's leadout man for 4 years
and George Hincapie should be better on flat. |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 10-09-2011 16:46
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I tell again Gasparotto would be 74 in SPR |
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