fcancellara wrote:
So, I am not a cyclist, I am a runner.
My route from my home to my athletics track is 5.8 KM, and is mainly flat with a nasty bridge after 2.5 KM.
I clocked my time (no wind, no rain, cloudy, no traffic lights) and it was 7'30 min (I am not lying).
fcancellara wrote:
So, I am not a cyclist, I am a runner.
My route from my home to my athletics track is 5.8 KM, and is mainly flat with a nasty bridge after 2.5 KM.
I clocked my time (no wind, no rain, cloudy, no traffic lights) and it was 7'30 min (I am not lying).
fcancellara wrote:
So, I am not a cyclist, I am a runner.
My route from my home to my athletics track is 5.8 KM, and is mainly flat with a nasty bridge after 2.5 KM.
I clocked my time (no wind, no rain, cloudy, no traffic lights) and it was 7'30 min (I am not lying).
I think he went there by bike, which is why he's asking whether he should turn into a cyclist.
Still, 7'30 on 5,8 km, that's 46,4 km/h, if mathematics serve. I don't doubt the existence of super talents, but I doubt the accuracy of the measurement(s).
Cycling or running ? Both need a "big engine", but cycling requires more power, and has more pace changes, which don't necessarily suit all the runners when they're on a bike.
Plus performing in cycling requires like twice the time investment, as you burn about twice the amount of energy (for a same heart beat) during the same time length when running instead of cycling.
fcancellara wrote:
So, I am not a cyclist, I am a runner.
My route from my home to my athletics track is 5.8 KM, and is mainly flat with a nasty bridge after 2.5 KM.
I clocked my time (no wind, no rain, cloudy, no traffic lights) and it was 7'30 min (I am not lying).
World Record is at 12:37.35 So well done, you are a World Champion holder - even on a longer distance too
Spoiler
Sorry for being harsh
He was cycling
Is he ? When he pointed out I am a runner I thought he run that distance. If he's cycling, that I apologise Phew, I feel better now seeing that he was riding tbh. Apologize again, and that's quite a good time. Cycling is endurance wise sport and not short distance, so if you can hold that effort is the question ? If you can to even smaller level then you should definitely find a club Edited by Alakagom on 16-04-2012 22:19
Aquarius wrote:
I think he went there by bike, which is why he's asking whether he should turn into a cyclist.
Still, 7'30 on 5,8 km, that's 46,4 km/h, if mathematics serve. I don't doubt the existence of super talents, but I doubt the accuracy of the measurement(s).
Cycling or running ? Both need a "big engine", but cycling requires more power, and has more pace changes, which don't necessarily suit all the runners when they're on a bike.
Plus performing in cycling requires like twice the time investment, as you burn about twice the amount of energy (for a same heart beat) during the same time length when running instead of cycling.
Good to know, so as I said if you can hold that for longer distance, even at less speed ( 28-34 ) then you should find a club
I train alone so far, my average stays 32km/h on flat terrains and about 27/28km/h on quite lumpy one. I train on 1km climbs too. So far holding 20km/h for about half of it and then 16/17 km/h for the rest. That seems decent enough I think.
P.S. First time I think i sounded like a dick there ... Edited by Alakagom on 16-04-2012 22:24
Aquarius wrote:
I think he went there by bike, which is why he's asking whether he should turn into a cyclist.
Still, 7'30 on 5,8 km, that's 46,4 km/h, if mathematics serve. I don't doubt the existence of super talents, but I doubt the accuracy of the measurement(s).
Cycling or running ? Both need a "big engine", but cycling requires more power, and has more pace changes, which don't necessarily suit all the runners when they're on a bike.
Plus performing in cycling requires like twice the time investment, as you burn about twice the amount of energy (for a same heart beat) during the same time length when running instead of cycling.
It was accurate, and I was out of breath when I reached the track.
But I was on time for the training
I used to ride with an average cheap speed monitor on my bike, but choose not to now, I find them slightly off putting. But last time I was on a hill with one fitted I clocked 22km/h comfortably, the hill went on for about 500-600m though, just a matter of increasing my stamina to stick at it. I was on top form that day, never gone aswell as that since
But I suck on flat roads, suck at TTing and suck in the slightest bit of wind which is poor really. But I seem to climb well.
Im afraid of the club chaingangs because Matt Brammeier's brother is a machine, when he gets on the front I'm out the back straight away, I remember he crashed last year, he told me to jump on his wheel but I had no chance at holding it, he was gone.
Edited by Ste117 on 16-04-2012 22:53
This is my 2nd full year / season at a road bike (done over 25 years of BMX-racing), and I'm trying to create a bigger stamina. I rode two cyclos the last 2 weeks, being 125 and 113 kilometres. Both had about 700 height metres (some steep climbs in it, let's say 500 metres at 8%, max. 12%, and some less steep, 2-3% average), my average speed was between 25 (the 125km, with strong wind 4-5 Beaufort and temperatures of 4-7 degrees, most of it rode alone) and 27.5km/h (the 113, wind 2-3 and temp 7-11 degrees).
I'm happy that my stamina is getting better, but I have the problem of not being able to go faster. Even when I ride for 40-50km, I can't go faster than 28 average...
Sombody knows how to improve it? Should I go for the interval-training (well, I need more time on my bike for sure, 1-2 a week isn't enough, but work, famil\y and upcoming baby and PCM asks a lot of time).
Okay, so i'm 17, I've been riding for about 6months now, doing 1-2hundred km a week, my average speeds tend to be around the 34km/h on the flat, and i can climb moderately well, a route i enjoy riding includes Cheddar Gorge twice, but my real question is this, I found early on, that i could sprint in the mid 60's I didn't believe this, and now have tried 4 speedos, all saying a max of around 64km/h, this seems good to me, but i wasn't sure, what do you guys reckon? and if it's good, how does one start to progress in the world of cycling?
baggieboys32 wrote:
Okay, so i'm 17, I've been riding for about 6months now, doing 1-2hundred km a week, my average speeds tend to be around the 34km/h on the flat, and i can climb moderately well, a route i enjoy riding includes Cheddar Gorge twice, but my real question is this, I found early on, that i could sprint in the mid 60's I didn't believe this, and now have tried 4 speedos, all saying a max of around 64km/h, this seems good to me, but i wasn't sure, what do you guys reckon? and if it's good, how does one start to progress in the world of cycling?
64 km/h is not impossible, that's really, really damn fast (if done on the flat, of course, and without a hurrricane blowing in your back).
I used to be really fast for a junior, and hardly reached 58 km/h in such conditions, so if you manage 64, either it's the speedo that's not properly set, either you're able to easily beat anyone who's your age.
Then again speed's not everything, you need to be there at the end of a race to use it, and be fresh enough to deliver it. I guess I lacked those aspects a little too much.
dienblad wrote:
This is my 2nd full year / season at a road bike (done over 25 years of BMX-racing), and I'm trying to create a bigger stamina. I rode two cyclos the last 2 weeks, being 125 and 113 kilometres. Both had about 700 height metres (some steep climbs in it, let's say 500 metres at 8%, max. 12%, and some less steep, 2-3% average), my average speed was between 25 (the 125km, with strong wind 4-5 Beaufort and temperatures of 4-7 degrees, most of it rode alone) and 27.5km/h (the 113, wind 2-3 and temp 7-11 degrees).
I'm happy that my stamina is getting better, but I have the problem of not being able to go faster. Even when I ride for 40-50km, I can't go faster than 28 average...
Sombody knows how to improve it? Should I go for the interval-training (well, I need more time on my bike for sure, 1-2 a week isn't enough, but work, famil\y and upcoming baby and PCM asks a lot of time).
To improve it : interval training, definitely. Plus work your weight, if you're over-weighted, and your bike, but training is the key.
There are many sorts of intervals that are usually done by cyclists. Can be longer accelerations (10 minutes), or very short ones (20 seconds), with more or less the same recovery time between them.
dienblad wrote:
This is my 2nd full year / season at a road bike (done over 25 years of BMX-racing), and I'm trying to create a bigger stamina. I rode two cyclos the last 2 weeks, being 125 and 113 kilometres. Both had about 700 height metres (some steep climbs in it, let's say 500 metres at 8%, max. 12%, and some less steep, 2-3% average), my average speed was between 25 (the 125km, with strong wind 4-5 Beaufort and temperatures of 4-7 degrees, most of it rode alone) and 27.5km/h (the 113, wind 2-3 and temp 7-11 degrees).
I'm happy that my stamina is getting better, but I have the problem of not being able to go faster. Even when I ride for 40-50km, I can't go faster than 28 average...
Sombody knows how to improve it? Should I go for the interval-training (well, I need more time on my bike for sure, 1-2 a week isn't enough, but work, famil\y and upcoming baby and PCM asks a lot of time).
To improve it : interval training, definitely. Plus work your weight, if you're over-weighted, and your bike, but training is the key.
There are many sorts of intervals that are usually done by cyclists. Can be longer accelerations (10 minutes), or very short ones (20 seconds), with more or less the same recovery time between them.
As he wants to ride faster for long distance, I suggest the longer intervals would be the most effective. Working above lactate threshold but below lactate turn point would be suitable. However, as you already know, 1-2 times a week isn't enough. 3-4 days would help.
The Eneco prologue wasn't in optimal conditions right? Otherwise I would be very surprised.
Btw, today, I did the same part again, but it was windy and rainy.
My time was a little bit above 9'00, but I had some parts in which I struggled to even keep going forward, cuz the wind was blowing hard.
I have a Club 10 TT on Wednesday but it looks like I will miss it through injury .
I am currently unable to walk without pain at the lower hamstring, close to the knee. After a bit of research it may look like a Grade 3 Hamstring strain- which is pain while walking. After a day of feeling it no brusiing has show up this far, so I suppose its a waiting game. I will have to call the NHS walk in centre on my lunch break tomorrow to get it properly assessed. It doesn't look good and I will be gutted to miss the first Club TT of the year as I rarely miss them and have only missed 3 in 3 years all through injury. Competed in all 5 last year Edited by Ste117 on 20-04-2012 00:10
