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wackojackohighcliffe
Source?
 
Smal
Fran Millar.

Of course she could be wrong, but I doubt it.
 
Frogg
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Source?


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Aquarius
Were his samples from that day ever going to turn positive, could he get away from it with a technicality, given they've spelled his first name "Badleys" ? Shock
 
valverde321
Is that 70 minute time difference between notification and time of arrival normal?
 
Quaver
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Quaver wrote:
HE TAKES DRUGS. No doubt, no questions

?There are like 60 pages of doubts and questions in this topic alone.?

Quaver wrote:
I gave up reading this after several comments that accuse with no proof, NO EVIDENCE.

How do you know, when you gave up reading?



That is a typical reply - quote out of context and make the other person look silly - well arent you clever. I am so impressed with your intellegence and maturity and worldly knowledge.

There are 60 pages of comments and suggestions and ineuendo - NOT ONE FACT or piece of evidence. You are all making suggestions from behind the privelidge of screen names.

I will (Sorry Miss quote) quote a comment here - He wasnt tired when he finished a stage - How do you know? did you speak to him? Did he say so? Did his Dr or manager say so?

How do any of us mere mortals know what goes on behind the scenes - we dont and so to make ourselves appear to be far more important or knowledgable that we realy are we pretend.
 
CountArach
Can you explain why the improvement in Team Sky's performance runs concurrently with the hiring of Geert Leinders?
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Spilak23
valverde321 wrote:
Is that 70 minute time difference between notification and time of arrival normal?


I think they notified him when he finished but he still had to go on the podium after the notification.
 
the_hoyle
CountArach wrote:
Can you explain why the improvement in Team Sky's performance runs concurrently with the hiring of Geert Leinders?


wasnt he with sky last year when they were crap?
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kumazan
the_hoyle wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Can you explain why the improvement in Team Sky's performance runs concurrently with the hiring of Geert Leinders?


wasnt he with sky last year when they were crap?


They were crap last year indeed.

CQ Team Ranking 2011

1. Sky Professional Cycling TeamPRT10606
2. HTC - HighroadPRT9820
3. Leopard - TrekPRT9712
4. Team Garmin - CervéloPRT9407
5. RabobankPRT8815

 
the_hoyle
kumazan wrote:
the_hoyle wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Can you explain why the improvement in Team Sky's performance runs concurrently with the hiring of Geert Leinders?


wasnt he with sky last year when they were crap?


They were crap last year indeed.

CQ Team Ranking 2011

1. Sky Professional Cycling TeamPRT10606
2. HTC - HighroadPRT9820
3. Leopard - TrekPRT9712
4. Team Garmin - CervéloPRT9407
5. RabobankPRT8815


i retract my previous statement... Embarassed
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valverde321
Spilak23 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Is that 70 minute time difference between notification and time of arrival normal?


I think they notified him when he finished but he still had to go on the podium after the notification.


Okay, I was merely wondering, because after reading the USADA report, about the saline and stalling and stuff... but that does seem like a reasonable explanation, as long as that is the right one Smile
 
issoisso
Quaver wrote:
I gave up reading this after several comments that accuse with no proof, NO EVIDENCE.


Quaver wrote:
There are 60 pages of comments and suggestions and ineuendo - NOT ONE FACT or piece of evidence. You are all making suggestions from behind the privelidge of screen names.


So did you give up reading after several comments or did you read all 60 pages to know they don't have one fact or piece of evidence?

Which is it?

Don't worry, that's a rhetorical question. If you had in fact read the 60 pages (or even half of them) you'd be well versed in the evidence by now.
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cactus-jack
kumazan wrote:
the_hoyle wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Can you explain why the improvement in Team Sky's performance runs concurrently with the hiring of Geert Leinders?


wasnt he with sky last year when they were crap?


They were crap last year indeed.

CQ Team Ranking 2011

1. Sky Professional Cycling TeamPRT10606
2. HTC - HighroadPRT9820
3. Leopard - TrekPRT9712
4. Team Garmin - CervéloPRT9407
5. RabobankPRT8815


Wow, they suck so bad they didn't even manage to suck. Those guys sure do suck.
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TheManxMissile
see! that means this "sudden rise" was going on for a year and thus they never ever doped and the world is happy Pfft
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jsh312mufc
TheManxMissile wrote:
see! that means this "sudden rise" was going on for a year and thus they never ever doped and the world is happy Pfft

these guys will never give up
 
9-Ball
Apparently Zroome believes Sky's latest announcement on their new doping policy statement/approach means they will lose staff/riders. The irony potential here may break some large piece of the space-time-continuum construct, one day. We'll see.

https://www.bbc.co...g/20072758
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Flair
9-Ball wrote:
Apparently Zroome believes Sky's latest announcement on their new doping policy statement/approach means they will lose staff/riders. The irony potential here may break some large piece of the space-time-continuum construct, one day. We'll see.

https://www.bbc.co...g/20072758


I don't think they will tbh. It will be the same as before, they cant sack/refuse to hire them without a define charge against them. Unless some of thier staff finally decide to be honest. Sure, signing a form makes them slightly more liable if it later comes out they have doped but its still pretty damn tricky to reclaim money. All it means it that if it does come out its easier to sack them.

I'm not suggesting Sky dope incidently, merely that I think its fairly obvious that any Pro Cycling team today is going to contain cyclists and staff that have doped/been complicit in doping.
 
jsh312mufc
Flair wrote:
9-Ball wrote:
Apparently Zroome believes Sky's latest announcement on their new doping policy statement/approach means they will lose staff/riders. The irony potential here may break some large piece of the space-time-continuum construct, one day. We'll see.

https://www.bbc.co...g/20072758


I don't think they will tbh. It will be the same as before, they cant sack/refuse to hire them without a define charge against them. Unless some of thier staff finally decide to be honest. Sure, signing a form makes them slightly more liable if it later comes out they have doped but its still pretty damn tricky to reclaim money. All it means it that if it does come out its easier to sack them.

I'm not suggesting Sky dope incidently, merely that I think its fairly obvious that any Pro Cycling team today is going to contain cyclists and staff that have doped/been complicit in doping.

Brailsford recently said in an interview that staff would be able to talk about what they did in the past, and wont be fired unless they represent a risk going forward
 
Juiceman
I see this is turning into the the old Armstrong explanation. "I passed over 500 drug tests".

There is as much cheating now as there was in Armstrong's day with the exception that the riders and teams now are better at masking.

Sky's anti-doping policy means squat. Throw out a few sacrificial lambs to make it look legit and pacify the fanboys.

But, but, but, he's British. He's not cheating he said so. For f*%cks sake. Sky was US Postal all over again at this years Tour.
 
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