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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-10-2011 20:51
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Dymo wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Dymo wrote:
I mean sprinters who can only sprint with trains in front of them.
Are you sure there's any ?
Cippolini is one of the biggest examples. But you got also Boonen, petacchi, Greipel and even Cavendish some sort of way. With train he is unbeatable and if the train is not on the track he is beatable like Greipel did in the Tour of this year. Freire never needed one that makes him a pure sprinter.
They get a train built around them because they're the fastest, no matter what.
They're not the fastest because they've got a train.
Of course getting a train helps, when you're of the kind of sprinter that could benefit from one. |
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| MrDemus |
Posted on 21-10-2011 21:21
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Team Vorarlberg gets awesome points for signing Daniel Rinner from Liechtenstein 
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| Dymo |
Posted on 22-10-2011 14:40
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kumazan wrote:
I always thought that 'pure sprinter' was the term used for guys like Cavendish, that is, for guys who can win only in bunch sprints, while guys like Freire are more versatile riders.
Anyway, none of the guys you have listed win only with sprint trains, and all of them have showed this quite a few times, even Cavendish.
Its not about only wins with sprint trains. Nobody does that. But be beatable and unbeatable. Thats he point. The art of sprinter to me is taking risks, fichting for a wheel, be good at tiny spaces, right moment to launch, intelect and off course the best one using as little energie to prepare for a sprint.
That is what I call a pure sprinter who knows his art. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 22-10-2011 15:33
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Dymo wrote:
kumazan wrote:
I always thought that 'pure sprinter' was the term used for guys like Cavendish, that is, for guys who can win only in bunch sprints, while guys like Freire are more versatile riders.
Anyway, none of the guys you have listed win only with sprint trains, and all of them have showed this quite a few times, even Cavendish.
Its not about only wins with sprint trains. Nobody does that. But be beatable and unbeatable. Thats he point. The art of sprinter to me is taking risks, fichting for a wheel, be good at tiny spaces, right moment to launch, intelect and off course the best one using as little energie to prepare for a sprint.
That is what I call a pure sprinter who knows his art.
Cavendish is very good at that then. One of the best I'd say. He is (almost) unbeatable with his train, and still will win most sprints without his train. He's the best pure sprinter around at the moment, head and shoulders above the rest, even according to your definition.
And don't get me wrong, I like Freire a lot, and don't really like Cavendish, but let's give credit where it's due.
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| Dizzle |
Posted on 22-10-2011 17:01
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Simon Spilak -> Katusha
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| acac |
Posted on 23-10-2011 17:18
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Brice Feillu->saur-sojasun |
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| komando94 |
Posted on 23-10-2011 17:44
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Marek Rutkiewicz -> Team NetApp |
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Posted on 06-12-2025 20:42
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| Brahama |
Posted on 23-10-2011 18:44
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Hoste had a deal with Lotto, but nothing is signed yet, due to his contract with Katusha
R.I.P Wouter Weylandt (1984 - 2011)
Pain is a big fat creature riding on your back. The farther you pedal, the heavier he feels. The harder you push, the tighter he squeezes your chest. The steeper the climb, the deeper he digs his jagged, sharp claws into your muscles.- Scott Martin |
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| acac |
Posted on 24-10-2011 13:06
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samual sanchez might go to saxo bank if Euskaltel folds. |
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| andy222c |
Posted on 24-10-2011 13:11
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acac wrote:
samual sanchez might go to saxo bank if Euskaltel folds.
Lovely thought 
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 24-10-2011 13:18
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andy222c wrote:
acac wrote:
samual sanchez might go to saxo bank if Euskaltel folds.
Lovely thought
Sanchez really said that, it´s for the 12/13 transfer season, though:
https://www.cyclin...hip-issues
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 24-10-2011 13:42
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Anyone hear anything about a new Norwegian Continental Team for next year? I heard one of my old teammates (whose dad was a diplomat stationed in the US for a bit) from my junior team got signed to it... |
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| ember |
Posted on 24-10-2011 13:59
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Yeah, there should come another norwegian continental team for the next season. The father to one of the most talented junior riders, Sondre Holst Enger, 12th at the WC this year, is starting it. He's a senior next year, and he won't ride for his father's team, as he has signed for "Hushovd's team," Plussbank - BMC.
But there hasn't been much news about the team in Norway, actually I'm not sure there has been any news about the team, but the team should still form, according to "sources" 
Who is your old teammate? |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 24-10-2011 15:34
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felix_29 wrote:
andy222c wrote:
acac wrote:
samual sanchez might go to saxo bank if Euskaltel folds.
Lovely thought
Sanchez really said that, it´s for the 12/13 transfer season, though:
https://www.cyclin...hip-issues
I'm not sure he'd be willing to ride for peanuts, though.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 24-10-2011 16:50
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Steensen and Vandborg will not have their contracts renewed with Saxo Bank. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 24-10-2011 18:26
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Deadpool wrote:
Anyone hear anything about a new Norwegian Continental Team for next year? I heard one of my old teammates (whose dad was a diplomat stationed in the US for a bit) from my junior team got signed to it...
If you were here more, we might have heard more about it 
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 24-10-2011 22:50
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ember wrote:
Yeah, there should come another norwegian continental team for the next season. The father to one of the most talented junior riders, Sondre Holst Enger, 12th at the WC this year, is starting it. He's a senior next year, and he won't ride for his father's team, as he has signed for "Hushovd's team," Plussbank - BMC.
But there hasn't been much news about the team in Norway, actually I'm not sure there has been any news about the team, but the team should still form, according to "sources"
Who is your old teammate?
Elias Husoy. I didn't know him well, as I only raced with him once and rode with him a few times beyond that. He wouldn't remember me (nor did I remember him until I heard about his being signed to a Continental squad from a mutual old teammate this weekend). |
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| ember |
Posted on 25-10-2011 12:30
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Vegard Stake Laengen is confirmed to Team Type 1. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 25-10-2011 13:02
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ember wrote:
Vegard Stake Laengen is confirmed to Team Type 1.
So is Joey Rosskopf. Both of them rode for their "feeder team" I think.
Also Fabio Calabria and Daniele Callegarin renewed for another year. |
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| ember |
Posted on 25-10-2011 13:09
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roturn wrote:
ember wrote:
Vegard Stake Laengen is confirmed to Team Type 1.
So is Joey Rosskopf. Both of them rode for their "feeder team" I think
No, Stake Laengen is not from their "feeder" team/youth team. He rode this season for Joker - Merida, just like he did in 2009 and 2010. It will be great to see him on the Contintental Tour, he's an extremely strong rider, hopefully he continues his development. |
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