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New Riders for the ManGame - Suggestions
jandal7
IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot
xxKennettDylan70586469727168627271676873NZLOC1081219943
xxKennettDylan71586469727268627372676874NZLOC2081219943
xxKennettDylan72586469727369627574676875NZLOC3081219943
xxKennettDylan74586569737570627776676877NZLOC4081219943
xxKennettDylan75586569737671627978676878NZLOC410081219943

Dylan Kennett, whilst not an accomplished road rider is an accomplished track cyclist and despite tough times fought well in Rio despite his young age against the likes of Cav and Viviani to do very well in the Omnium including wins in the 1km time trial and the flying lap.

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot
xxWilliamsZac65576568656763586870666568NZLOC1021719954
xxWilliamsZac66576569666764586970666569NZLOC2021719954
xxWilliamsZac68576571676965587071666571NZLOC3021719954
xxWilliamsZac70576673697067587272666573NZLOC4021719954
xxWilliamsZac72576675707268587373666575NZLOC410021719954

Yeah he seems decent at TTing, maybe these are too high.

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot
xxGriffinLogan67676862616770566262666864NZLOC1019519952
xxGriffinLogan67686862616871566263666964NZLOC2019519952
xxGriffinLogan67706862626972566264677064NZLOC3019519952
xxGriffinLogan67726962647173566265687264NZLOC4019519952
xxGriffinLogan67746962657274566266697364NZLOC410019519952

Has done decent in some overseas races, again maybe too high.

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot
xxAmbroseScott66676663666763556467717065NZLOC1023119954
xxAmbroseScott66686763666864556468727065NZLOC2023119954
xxAmbroseScott66706963666965556470747065NZLOC3023119954
xxAmbroseScott67727163677067556472767165NZLOC4023119954
xxAmbroseScott67747363677168556474787165NZLOC410023119954

Has done well in some tougher races and as rider with Type 1 diabetes is a real battler and inspiration.

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot
6260SchreursHamish71547065707067727075736967NZLOC2023119946
6260SchreursHamish73547165727268747275736967NZLOC3023119946
6260SchreursHamish75547265757469777476747067NZLOC4023119946
6260SchreursHamish77547365777670797676747067NZLNZL410023119946

Modifying a likely FA next year (obviously, if Spark stays this suggestion is out the window) because he is a rising star both in NZ and Europe, riding for Israel Cycling Academy and being on the watchlist of Quickstep after a stagiaire period with them last year. 3rd in U23 Roubaix, 14th in L-B-L U23 as well as many results on the continent and back home means that this man deserves an upgrade!
Edited by jandal7 on 11-04-2017 13:28
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tsmoha
Schreurs upgrade a bit high imo. Even though I would welcome an Oceanian cobbler like that.. a 79cob/77sp just when maxed. That's something.
 
TheManxMissile
tsmoha wrote:
Schreurs upgrade a bit high imo. Even though I would welcome an Oceanian cobbler like that.. a 79cob/77sp just when maxed. That's something.


Heck, i might be interested to train his HL instead Pfft
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jandal7
TheManxMissile wrote:
tsmoha wrote:
Schreurs upgrade a bit high imo. Even though I would welcome an Oceanian cobbler like that.. a 79cob/77sp just when maxed. That's something.


Heck, i might be interested to train his HL instead Pfft

Yeah probably best to let hill down one or two, had that originally because of the possibility of hill training but pushed it up a bit Pfft To tsmoha's point - yeah 79 cob/76 sprint is maybe too strong on paper but with recent cobbled additions it isn't too bad I guess - certainly wouldn't be near the strongest in this year with suggestions, nevermind the years around with Kasperkwiecz, etc.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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Croatia14
I'd really enjoy a strong Schreurs in the game given the number of Kiwi teams (or teams with interest there) and the potential of Hamish!
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jandal7
Bit more fantasy this time, all names are real and info on age/speciality/comparative ability is used where possible.

SurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot
CollinsWally74576260687075637475686961SAMOC4100771989-
YoungDarren71566174677271717272657074SAMOC41002811991-
LasaElia67646764686865686669717163SAMOC1014319942
AfoaDaniel64636762656865576667687060SAMOC1017619956
AfoaDaniel64646962666966576668697060SAMOC2017619956
AfoaDaniel65657162687067576770717160SAMOC3017619956
AfoaDaniel66667463717168576873737261SAMOC4017619956
AfoaDaniel67677663737269576975757361SAMOC410017619956
Ngamoki-CameronCarl71636765737267717172687366FIJOC41002988-
GeeStuart68615970646967666465707068FIJOC308419923
GeeStuart70616072667169666465717070FIJOC408419923
GeeStuart71616074677370666465727072FIJOC41008419923
EroniTakape64696965676568556268676661FIJOC30301219924
EroniTakape65717165686670556270696761FIJOC40301219924
EroniTakape66737365686771556272716761FIJOC4100301219924
ManoaPetero67656364746661566869727171FIJOC1031519942
ManoaPetero68656364746761566970727172FIJOC2031519942
ManoaPetero69656364746862567171727173FIJOC3031519942
ManoaPetero71656364757063567373727175FIJOC4031519942
ManoaPetero72656364757164567574727176FIJOC410031519942

24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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trekbmc
I'd like to suggest some upgrades for some current FAs so that a couple riders from the Faroe Islands can be serviceable domestiques in the PCT, given they have practically no young riders to suggest. Pfft

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPotStatus
5741Dahl-OlsenGunnar67525471586664525967676369FAREU410012119902Current
5741Dahl-OlsenGunnar75546872667766755969696569FAREU410012119902Suggested


Despite him previously having a low cobble stat, Gunnar Dahl-Olsen seems like a proper very strong classicy type rider irl, probably the best rider in the Faroe Islands at the moment (him or Veyhe) a very powerful rider (hence the high res) who can get up hills pretty quickly but lacks the stamina for long distance races with most Faroe races being quite short. There's a thousand articles here which I can't decipher but they mention his name a lot and he seems to win a lot too: https://tsf.fo/hei... Pfft

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPotStatus
5427HøjgaardJógvan68576270646568636159586370FAREU410091219912Current
5427HøjgaardJógvan72677574657468656169636573FAREU410091219912Suggested


Sometime in the middle of this winter, he competed in a five time trial series, he was more than decent in the regular time trials, but he crushed the others in the two hilly time trials, given all he's other results that I can vaguely find on the website posted above, I can conclude that he must be a dominant hilly time trial specialist.

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPotStatus
581NielsenJóanis Albert68526264626769676869626568FAREU20291219933Current
581NielsenJóanis Albert71546866677171686971646770FAREU20291219933Suggested
581NielsenJóanis Albert75546966717275717577646770FAREU4100291219933Suggested Max


A sprinter in the Faroe Islands? Although you can't just be a sprinter in the Faroe Islands, since rough roads, cold winds and very lumpy, sometimes very hilly terrain make that a challenge, Jóanis Albert Nielsen is still level 2 and has a low pot, but I'm suggesting some stats where he can develop into a decent lead-out man who can survive some difficulties in a stage (although doesn't have the hills or cobbles potential to be really that worth developing in the other terrains).

5165MagnussenDávur71506462646665505359696368FAREU3028219923Current
5165MagnussenDávur71587170647062607073737074FAREU3028219923Suggested
5165MagnussenDávur74587274677465607073757078FAREU410028219923Suggested Max


Another all-rounder from the Faroe Islands Pfft Did pretty well in some prologues so I've suggested him as a prologue specialist.

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Obviously all these riders have been embellished a bit, but these 4 in particular are quite good riders and most suggestions are at least a little backed up by some results here: https://tsf.fo/hei... (although I wouldn't trust myself to find them again Pfft) and I've tried to make sure none of them are particularly overpowered (although if downgrades are needed I'd definitely suggest Magnussen's Prologue stat and maybe Dahl-Olsen's CB and RES, although I think his stats in particular are deserved).

Also some other Faroe Riders who I can barely find info on, so don't want to suggest unless I can find some info (some might even be too old, women or juniors Pfft), but might be possible to add to the DB, I might even have a go at statting a couple later:

Kári Davidsen
Jan Hjaltalin (in particular a very strong flat rider and TTist)
Sverri Mohr Edvinsson
Petur av Vollanum
Sámul Petur Danislen
Evald Rasmussen
Runi Jull
Hendrik Køileskov
Henry Berg
Høni øster
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Croatia14
I absolutely love these suggestions trekky, especially the effort you did put into this. Hopefully you are rewarded to get all those added as suggested, which in my eyes would be reasonable given that all would be domestiques.
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SotD
Maria Svabo is a female, though. If her breasts are big enough, she should be a good descender...
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TheManxMissile
SotD wrote:
Maria Svabo is a female, though. If her breasts are big enough, she should be a good descender...


We can nominate female cyclists now?

brb.....

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trekbmc
SotD wrote:
Maria Svabo is a female, though. If her breasts are big enough, she should be a good descender...


Oops sorry, thanks for noticing, a couple names got into the list because of an ITT I didn't realise was mixed (although I did mention I might have made some mistakes Pfft).

Did some more checking to remove some names who are obviously not eligible - was more just trying to put the names of a couple Faroe riders that weren't already in the DB anyway, wasn't fully nominating the riders I didn't stat. Pfft For the rest it's hard to know, although I'll try to find some more info on them when I have more time. Smile



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Scorchio
Just been having a wee bit of a peruse through this. TMM's helpful summary document certainly make life easier than wading through the whole thread, and also helps in terms of formatting, so thanks! TMM's suggestion to make Barbados into the new TTT champions of the world also made me chuckle Wink.

I also did like sammyt's round up of the WT riders not yet in the DB, again very useful work - would say is a no-brainer to potentially get all of these that fall within the right age bracket into the future DB. While I think the discussion on older riders was interesting, think is not best suited to MG in current form imo for much the same reasons as put forward by others.

As a general message (again only imo) given that there are, ... how can I put this ... some quite fanciful rider stats being put forward, that experience would suggest that adding riders from a country of interest for flavour to suit particular teams has a lot of support. However it is also fair to say that any new rider who either starts off with, or has the talent to develop to have main stats of 75+, or overall 72+ are generally fought over in the transfer market, nevermind nationality. Just because a rider is from 'your' country does not mean he is off limits to everyone else! Worth keeping in mind when making stat suggestions.

Finally, the potential for stat inflation is something that we all have an eye out for. Care needs to be taken that this does not just focus on the very top level riders. Part of the reason that there is this mad 'rush to the top' is that it is in part fueled by the fact that lots of IRL 'mediocre', 'journeyman' or general solid domestique pros (plus lots of basically made up stats attached to dudes from countries where a bike is unusual) ending up with main stats in the range 75-80 means that the riders who should be the obvious stars in the MG have to be statted even higher and trained relentlessly to differentiate them (!).

Last off, this does not fit here, but not sure where else to comment, but I notice that viking90 has been hard at work of late updating the 2016 race profiles pages with all the reults from this season. Very helpful resource, chapeau to you Smile
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TheManxMissile
Scorchio wrote:
Just been having a wee bit of a peruse through this. TMM's helpful summary document certainly make life easier than wading through the whole thread, and also helps in terms of formatting, so thanks! TMM's suggestion to make Barbados into the new TTT champions of the world also made me chuckle Wink.


Well the Carribbean does a lot of TT'ing so most of those riders look like TT'ers Pfft
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TheManxMissile
So i was just looking around for more obscure riders without many/any real world results of particular note (went diving on google for random local races to places i like), just to be a touch more creative with some of the stats. Overall they're mostly just domestique level guys, with one or two possibly being CT leaders if a CT team was feeling bold.

Top line is a recommended Max and below is a recommended Entry. Only 3 lvl1.00 entries here, with most being lvl2-max to try and promote their unique/all-round recommended max.
I may have calculated some of the Entry stats wrong, so double check if going from Entry to Max works properly.

IDSurnameFirst nameFlMoHlTTStRsRcCbSpAcFtDhPlNat.Cont.XP LevelXP PointsDMYearPot
xxxxDaltonHarry72576274676864607474676375RSAAFR410021319953
xxxx6857627063656160697167637020
xxxxRyanAlex70556258717073737676647070USANA410018819943
xxxx6655615867696269707064707020
xxxxPilote-FortinGabriel73677073747567707374746770CANNA410026419933
xxxx7167707373746770727373677040
xxxxAntonneauKyle65757064677074726169807464USANA41001119922
xxxx6573706466697372616879736440
xxxxShapiraOmar65757070657063656263616865ISREU41009919942
xxxx6471676862686065626361686230
xxxxCobbAlistair72707176696570605765667076GBREU410031719954
xxxx6768687067616760576563707020
xxxxAllenJerry70657460727266546770757465AUSOC410017419933
xxxx7064726071716554676974746540
xxxxManlyAlex74586577686868646067637077AUSOC410028219965
xxxx6757626863616364606758696810
xxxxPoidevinSam66757075706771526066706370CANNA41007519964
xxxx6568656865626452606569636410
xxxxRasmussenScott73607376686564586364606576CANNA4100271019923
xxxx7260737467636358636459657440
xxxxDuehrlingJamie75607472707166577073726475CANNA41008719924
xxxxCatterickGeorge76555576676770686868706576NZLOC4100221119973
xxxx7155546962606568686867656910
xxxxMillardAlex72506259656570747075706163USANA410020519932
xxxx7150625964647073697570616340
xxxxRyanKen70607160656969687676686765USANA410010819923
xxxx6760706062676566727268676530
xxxxWilesTyler70827578707773606570777075USANA410020719895
xxxxHammarlingKarl75617571757570787175807775SWDEU4100241219936
xxxx7361747173736977697479777540


Harry Dalton - A TT Sprinter. Recommended add at lvl2.00. I've tried to promote a Track-TT training here, but could easily see someone going full TT however that shouldn't change his top end TT being Pot4.

Alex Ryan - Sprint Cobbler. Early leadout man with some support cobbles skill. I think i worked it out using Sprint training, and given the Entry stats i'd expect him to go that way.

Gabriel Pilote-Fortin - Real all-rounder with a bit of everything. Start at 4.00 and with Pot3 any way he's trained would still be all-round and a general domestique/breakaway rider.

Kyle Antonneau - Modeled after a personal favorite, Martin Grashev. Just with the CB/MO switched around and slightly different other stats. Again entry and 4.00 and with Pot2 doesn't matter if Climber or Cobbles training, will be unique and balanced.

Omar Shapira - Climber with some HL/TT. Wildcard Isreali recommendation, because we all need more random recommendations with no real logic behind them.

Alistair Cobb - TT with some MO/HL. Pretty obvious style of rider. Could go Stage Race over TT but it doesn't hurt that way to this. Lvl2 entry just helped define TT as a prefered training route.

Jerry Allen - Breakaway Hills rider. Lvl4 entry recommended because of the low key stat max, and if i went further back then Sprint training became too much of an option.

Alex Manly - TT Talent. 77 is kind of a high Max for a random rider i know, but could drop the FL to make him very one-dimensional as compensation. Australia just does TT'ers very well.

Sam Poidevin - Stage Racer with low max key stats. Aimed to become a Domestique, i doubt such a rider would lead in CT let alone higher. Low-ish Potential but still a nice rider for teams in the northern Americas

Scott Rasmussen - TT with a touch of Hill. Low Potential and Entry at Lvl4 means even Hill over TT training won't make this rider hugely interesting. Training Hill then actual training could make him a CT leader but weak backups counter that.

Jamie Duehrling - All-rounder. Recommended add at Max to preserve all-round ability. Not much else to say beyond a nice all-round breakaway rider. Could lower Potential to 3.

George Catterick - TT'er. Low Potential gives sort of high start stats for a '97 but it makes for a fast decline and he won't ever be a real scorer. Could drop TT another point or so, but would like to see the high FL retained to compensate against other low backups.

Alex Millard - Cobbles. Just a simple cobbles rider i modeled after Jamie Sparling i had previously. Not much else to say beyond low Potential and not many standout skills beyond Cobbles helper.

Ken Ryan - Sprinter with a touch of hills. Could be a CT lead-out or early leadout in higher divisions. Low potential again to try and promote following Sprint training over Hill.

Tyler Wiles - Sensational racer i came across. Probably overrated but this guy could be one of my all time favorite riders Pfft

Karl Hammarling - Apparently some cult sensation online with a good strong all-round skillset. I found there's a whole family of them, could add a few more! Pfft
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Croatia14
to be honest I do not like those suggestions TMM - apart from that jokes at the final and a guy from '97 I also don't see the need of adding several random riders of popular nations, especially if they (partly) have CT captain level and in their national pool several riders that all would deserve better potential/stats than those suggested exist...
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jandal7
@Scorchio - Guess most of that applies to me and I know possibly the Samoans and a couple of Fijians are potentially too good and they're not as pressing to get added with the smaller interest as the Kiwis I suggested, which I suggested to be a) good and b) a fair few of them because we have 5+ teams with at least a bit of focus there, same as some "bigger" cycling nations. I know that I won't get many of them but that isn't the point - really it's just expanding the pool because there aren't enough useful riders from NZ in my opinion.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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Aquarius97
TheManxMissile wrote:
Karl Hammarling - Apparently some cult sensation online with a good strong all-round skillset. I found there's a whole family of them, could add a few more! Pfft


I was wondering when you were going to suggest him Grin
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TheManxMissile
Can't suggest for popular nations, can't suggest for unpopular nations.... i dont know what's left.... Can i suggest for other planets?
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viking90
Scorchio wrote:

Last off, this does not fit here, but not sure where else to comment, but I notice that viking90 has been hard at work of late updating the 2016 race profiles pages with all the reults from this season. Very helpful resource, chapeau to you Smile


Grin Thanks!

Had some time over the last weeks so decided to update it Smile
 
Alakagom
TheManxMissile wrote:
Can't suggest for popular nations, can't suggest for unpopular nations.... i dont know what's left.... Can i suggest for other planets?


Suggest Tiesj Benoot. He's out of this world.
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