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| Dusen |
Posted on 15-10-2014 20:32
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matt17br wrote:
Great news, for the first time, for the Liguria. After the flood that hit Genoa, the Trofeo Laigueglia, one of the most important continental italian races, will be promoted to the HC.
Will be the first european HC race on the calender for the 2015 season  |
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Posted on 15-10-2014 22:01
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searmh wrote:
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I guess the reason why a rider chooses to dope himself, is because he feels pressured to do it, in order to be able to participate in the good end of things. In the end I think it's about "Doping to win" and nothing more than that, discussing nationalities won't come to an conclusion, but the I feel that discussing doping is like quitting ones interest of cycling.
I don't like doping and I don't like ppl that use it to perform, but the rider does it out of pressure, expectations and for entertainment. Without it the pace wouldn't be that high and out of our point of view a sport without it wouldn't be as entertaining for us as it could be.
I go in for the removal of doping for each one that gets exposed to it and being unethical or not, just leave it to that in the end and enjoy the fact that some are willing to sacrife that in order for us to be entertained and by some point also having them being able to make a life out of the sport.
great post
Interesting perpective. The thing I think you're missing is that doping may be extremely harmful. Many athletes are willing to take anything their team's physician prescribes them, even when they are not aware of what they are actually taking.
I remember reading this document from a doping investigation (Puerto?) where the riders were taking drugs only used in animals in order to avoid a positive! How sick is that?
There's only one answer to the question "why do we fight doping?" and that is: Tom Simpson
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 15-10-2014 22:05
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Paul23 wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
Dippofix wrote:
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Despite his brother being caught using doping masking agent Andy Schleck was never tested positive or has been involved in any doping accusations or tests. And it's only fair that he did not use any unethical means and boost his performance after crash, just to show all that he is back. He was not good enough and he retired.
Only Lemond , Sastre, Evans, Andy Schleck, Wiggins, Froome and Nibali are clean TdF winners. No idea how long will that stat will last.
So Tour winners that never got caught doping, or what? Because if you're making a list of riders you think were clean, Froome shouldn't have a place on it. If you're talking of riders that never got caught, add Stephen Roche, and at least another dozen or so others.
Go and search you will find teammates and/or team managers who will say others have used. All of them except once I mentioned.
Argue with me all you want but this is just a fact I mentioned. And read what I said at end
ok...lets take a look at this...
froome...obviously not clean, nibali riding for vinokourov says it all, wiggins is just as obvious as froome...to evans, sastre and lemond, i have nothing to say, because...
lemond was far before my time
sastre was before i found interest in cycling
evans is not obvious, but i think he doped, too...i mean...look at his age...
just because some people tell something on the internet, doesnt make them clean.
just because tony martin was never accused of doping, means that he is clean?
and i want to say something to you.
please dont act like a little child and if you dont like an opinion, you dont have to call people "idiot" f.e.
you did not learn how to argue "the right way" in primary scholl, did you?
sorry for my post above...i just wanted to make things clear, but i apologize for the marked text
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| CountArach |
Posted on 16-10-2014 01:19
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Shonak wrote:
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Though, he's anyway justified, but there are too much asthmatic riders, this makes me think...
No surprise there, Asthma is a disease of airways and breathing. Cyclists have long exercise efforts far above human average level throughout the year. It's only logical that some cyclists don't cope with this all too well over the years.
(Granted, it can be for some a welcome excuse for doping too of course)
Not to mention a common thing that goes hand in hand with asthma treatments, particularly at a young age, is to encourage people to do some sort of endurance sport or a sport where respiration is very important and thus people get into the sport at a young age. That is why there are also a lot of asthmatic swimmers. Or at least that's the advice I got when I was young as an asthmatic.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 16-10-2014 15:46
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Stybar is one unlucky rider at the moment. Just came back from that bad crash at Eneco, crashed today in semi cyclo cross race..results in broken collarbone..
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| gravus |
Posted on 16-10-2014 15:50
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Poor Stybar... And just when he finds his good form... |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 16-10-2014 16:57
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Omg that is getting quite funny 
This test was done after he won the Avenir stage ahead of Sam Oomen.
This is not looking good for Astana at all. I wonder how Nibali is feeling now.
Edited by Alakagom on 16-10-2014 16:57
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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 16-10-2014 17:30
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Well this is to be expected really...
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 16-10-2014 17:47
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Another Astana rider caught ,whos next ? |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 16-10-2014 17:52
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Please expell this team from the WT! |
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 16-10-2014 17:59
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If Nibali is honest he should leave Astana, any team will take him even now. |
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Posted on 16-10-2014 18:08
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TimoCycling wrote:
Please expell this team from the WT!
The most obvious +1 ever!
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Posted on 16-10-2014 18:21
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Personally I had my question marks at Aru's performances already, this only makes me doubt him more. |
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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 16-10-2014 18:23
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I think anyone's performance at Astana can be questioned. Dare we question Nibali's?
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-10-2014 18:24
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So that's Astana to miss the TDU according to MPCC rules, and i expect them to honor them again which is good. As a stagiere i don't think this reflects as badly on the team as if it was a full contract rider, but it's still not good. This team has been a joke since it began, an absolute joke, and the UCI has to take some real actions against them.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 16-10-2014 18:24
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the_hoyle wrote :
Dare we question Nibali's?
Yes we should |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 16-10-2014 18:25
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sutty68 wrote:
the_hoyle wrote :
Dare we question Nibali's?
Yes we should
He had no competition in Le Tour so I don't really doubt him tbh. |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 16-10-2014 18:40
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Fuck is the only word that comes to mind to describe this.
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 16-10-2014 18:43
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TimoCycling wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
the_hoyle wrote :
Dare we question Nibali's?
Yes we should
He had no competition in Le Tour so I don't really doubt him tbh.
How does that make a difference as to whether he's doped? |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 16-10-2014 18:51
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jsh312mufc wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
the_hoyle wrote :
Dare we question Nibali's?
Yes we should
He had no competition in Le Tour so I don't really doubt him tbh.
How does that make a difference as to whether he's doped?
Well he didn't do any crazy performances imo. We'll never know cause he never rode against FroomeTador. |
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