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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:00
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Jesleyh wrote:
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Gesink does not deserve nor should he get over 76 MO... 76 IS his level at the moment...
Schleck IS 67MO at the moment, Hesjedal IS 75MO at the moment but do they get that? 
Hesjedal 75? Really? He was sick. Schleck 67? Yes, he doesn't get results. We'll see at the Tour how his stats will be. Still, I drop Schleck to 77 MO and 74 HIL. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:01
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Miguel98 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
gotlandrules wrote:
Gesink does not deserve nor should he get over 76 MO... 76 IS his level at the moment...
Schleck IS 67MO at the moment, Hesjedal IS 75MO at the moment but do they get that?
Hesjedal 75? Really? He was sick. Schleck 67? Yes, he doesn't get results. We'll see at the Tour how his stats will be. Still, I drop Schleck to 77 MO and 74 HIL.
I meant that if you really look at this moment, like gotland seemed to do, then it's like that.
And no, I didn't mean that they should be 67 & 75 MO, that's not what I'm saying
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:01
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Hesjedal got a case a random dead legs. But he definelty isn't 75 mtn.
I'd say 77 in good for Santa, but his recovery should suck ass.
Don't know about Evans....
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:02
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Jesleyh wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
gotlandrules wrote:
Gesink does not deserve nor should he get over 76 MO... 76 IS his level at the moment...
Schleck IS 67MO at the moment, Hesjedal IS 75MO at the moment but do they get that?
Hesjedal 75? Really? He was sick. Schleck 67? Yes, he doesn't get results. We'll see at the Tour how his stats will be. Still, I drop Schleck to 77 MO and 74 HIL.
I meant that if you really look at this moment, like gotland seemed to do, then it's like that.
And no, I didn't mean that they should be 67 & 75 MO, that's not what I'm saying
Following that logic, Wigggins would get 75 MO aswell. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:03
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@Miguel98 Yes, wanted to say that as well, but he actually was decent on the first mountain.
And guys, for the second time, I was just trying to prove how bad the logic was, IT IS NOT what my opinion is!!!
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:04
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Okay, this is seriously getting annoying. Its Gesink. Not some obscure rider.
I could see a little discussion about this, but during the whole course of this Giro d'Italia, Gesink seems to be all that is discussed here. Im sure Alak will give him a fair stat representation, and if not, Jesleyh doesn't have to argue with anyone, because theres something called a stats editor.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:05
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Okay, I agree, it's a bit of a time-waste.
Btw, any following Gesink post will still be responded on 
Edited by Jesleyh on 26-05-2013 17:05
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:10
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Sooooo....
Should Danny van Poppel get a small sprint boost?
Van Hummel could get a decrease though, the guy isn't really better as Danny Van Poppel atm, and I wasn't aiming to put Van Poppel at 76SP/76ACC
Edited by Jesleyh on 26-05-2013 17:11
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:13
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Except of Boonen once, who has he beaten so far that has 76 sprint? Nobody.
And:
https://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/...ceid=24409
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:14
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Luka Mezgec HIL+SP boost.
Matej Mugerli SPboost (a bit bigger boost-won 5-6 local races in sprint).
D. Caruso TT boost. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:17
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I wasn't saying that he beat guys with 76SP a lot or something.
He did beat guys with 74SP quite regulary though.
Don't forget that he has 72SP/72ACC/horrible energy stats.
And seriously, the guy is really talented, would put him in my top 3 of talented Dutchies I think.
And if someone 'isn't really better than', that doesn't mean that the other guy is way better
Otherwise:
https://www.procyc...Flixecourt
Edited by Jesleyh on 26-05-2013 17:18
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:20
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Jesleyh wrote:
I wasn't saying that he beat guys with 76SP a lot or something.
He did beat guys with 74SP quite regulary though.
Don't forget that he has 72SP/72ACC/horrible energy stats.
74 or 75 for him is fine. He will get better quickly aswell. About the energy stats, he hasn't raced a WT race yet so no need for anything close to 70 there.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:22
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Spilak23 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
I wasn't saying that he beat guys with 76SP a lot or something.
He did beat guys with 74SP quite regulary though.
Don't forget that he has 72SP/72ACC/horrible energy stats.
74 or 75 for him is fine. He will get better quickly aswell. About the energy stats, he hasn't raced a WT race yet so no need for anything close to 70 there.
74 or 75 is all I ask. 75 is even more than I ask, actually.
Oh, you thought that I wanted him on 76SP? No, that wasn't what I meant, I wanted to put Van Hummel on 74 or 75 instead.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:22
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Spilak23 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
I wasn't saying that he beat guys with 76SP a lot or something.
He did beat guys with 74SP quite regulary though.
Don't forget that he has 72SP/72ACC/horrible energy stats.
74 or 75 for him is fine. He will get better quickly aswell. About the energy stats, he hasn't raced a WT race yet so no need for anything close to 70 there.
I've changed him yesterday to one of those actually, either 74/75 or 75/74
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:23
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Alakagom wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
I wasn't saying that he beat guys with 76SP a lot or something.
He did beat guys with 74SP quite regulary though.
Don't forget that he has 72SP/72ACC/horrible energy stats.
74 or 75 for him is fine. He will get better quickly aswell. About the energy stats, he hasn't raced a WT race yet so no need for anything close to 70 there.
I've changed him yesterday to one of those actually, either 74/75 or 75/74
Okay, thanks Alak
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| colombia_coldeportes |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:29
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Jesleyh does not give you anything to think been the only one deffending Gesink against the whole world, like Pellizoti ones told you, its a waste of time taking youi opinions seriously beacuse of ur your lack of objectivism.
Gesink doesnt deserve more than 76 MO and Hill
Like my name says im a Colombia fan  still want to be objectiv
Please consider that Atapuma had a pulmonary infection in the 2 first weeks from Giro before updating his stats. After been treated with antibiotics for those 2 weeks finaly he showed what he is capable of in the last Mountain stage and he is way back in the GC because he is a very bad TT. Maybe he deserve better REC.
Duarte imo even with a stomach bug did well in the TT and in the third week. Maybe he deserve better MO, TT and REC than he has now.
Maybe Alakom u could also consider updating a little bit stats for Pantano and Chalapud too. They did a descent job imo.
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:31
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Yep,Chalapud,Duarte and Atapuma should get boost.
Chalapud especially. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:32
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@colombia 2 guys were with me on this topic(probably more on the forum, but some guys just don't show up here )
And Atapuma was pretty impressive yesterday, I may say. Wouldn't up him in moutain though, 75 is enough.
Duarte deserves a big boost though, he was quite good during the Giro.
Edited by Jesleyh on 26-05-2013 17:32
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:32
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No, but you want to up Gesink when he does bad. 
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-05-2013 17:33
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baseballlover312 wrote:
No, but you want to up Gesink when he does bad.
No, 79 -> 77 isn't really like up is it
But right, Gesink topic closed I thought
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