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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 28-01-2015 12:10
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Ian Butler wrote:
That'd be an interesting system, for sure. Though you'd have an overflow of crappy submitted screenshots and half-finished stages and shirts 
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 28-01-2015 12:15
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Personally i would be against any sort of possibility of liking/disliking posts. In every forum that has this system, half of the discussions are around how many likes there were ,so that would be even counterproductive given the former goal. And if there would be a possibility to dislike posts, it also creates tension and original poster being discouraged from posting again (i know it would be good in some cases). 
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 28-01-2015 12:17
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I think, for the most part, we have enough sensible members to say what is worthwhile and not at this time. No reason to have any kind of ranking system.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 28-01-2015 12:21
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Personally i would be against any sort of possibility of liking/disliking posts. In every forum that has this system, half of the discussions are around how many likes there were ,so that would be even counterproductive given the former goal. And if there would be a possibility to dislike posts, it also creates tension and original poster being discouraged from posting again (i know it would be good in some cases).
I have never encouraged negativity (which is also why we never had awards such as Spammer of the Year).
In terms of likes, it wouldn't necessarily have to be visible how many likes each post has or who likes it. It could just be a simple Like-button which you could click to appreciate the contribution and which would then result in extra points to that particular user. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-01-2015 12:24
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And then Stylus would be ranked n°1 member after liking all his posts with his fake accounts 
I'm kidding  well it'd be a different system, though I'm not unhappy with the current one. In the end, you don't need to numbers to know which members are valuable. But I agree having a post count can be tempting, in the beginning I was a bit too focused on that aspect myself, while that's not necessary at all.
Still, overall PCM.Daily is still the friendliest and least-spammy forum I've visited, except maybe the Nationstates forum, which is pretty non-spammy, too |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 28-01-2015 12:25
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CrueTrue wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Personally i would be against any sort of possibility of liking/disliking posts. In every forum that has this system, half of the discussions are around how many likes there were ,so that would be even counterproductive given the former goal. And if there would be a possibility to dislike posts, it also creates tension and original poster being discouraged from posting again (i know it would be good in some cases).
I have never encouraged negativity (which is also why we never had awards such as Spammer of the Year).
In terms of likes, it wouldn't necessarily have to be visible how many likes each post has or who likes it. It could just be a simple Like-button which you could click to appreciate the contribution and which would then result in extra points to that particular user.
Thanks for clarification, but i would leave this function to Facebook and other shit sites, Daily is nice place for me also because how it differs from majority of similar forums where you can "like".
So i am pretty happy Aeb-ern never had time for this.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 28-01-2015 12:27
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Gotta say PCM.Daily is the only forum is use (semi-)regularly that seems to value Post Count at all as a measure of a members value/status. Other sites have members who use post count as a sign of seniority/heirarchy but everyone knows those arn't good members.
For this reason i would be in favor of a replacement for the post count, but i can't find one that wouldn't just shift the problem from post count to "likes"
Edited by TheManxMissile on 28-01-2015 12:28
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 28-01-2015 12:31
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Gotta say PCM.Daily is the only forum is use (semi-)regularly that seems to value Post Count at all as a measure of a members value/status. Other sites have members who use post count as a sign of seniority/heirarchy but everyone knows those arn't good members.
For this reason i would be in favor of a replacement for the post count, but i can't find one that wouldn't just shift the problem from post count to "likes"
I believe this is because the best members of the forum are encouraged by the environment that we have. Or, at least, strive to have. Thus, people that enjoy contributing here contribute more often, hence more posts.
@Ian: NationStates is a bunch of civilized people disagreeing a whole lot.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 28-01-2015 12:49
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That's an interesting system, and I would liked to see that in place for the sake of the site.
On the other hand, for my sake I would not have liked that approach.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 28-01-2015 13:17
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Not in favor of that idea at all allthough I would be interesting to see how it actually would work. Everyone with something upstairs know that a post count is nothing more worth than a count who shows how many posts that particular user has made and I dont think the idea will eliminate those vague one or two-liners that every forum has to put up with.. If anything, I would just remove the "Grand Tour Champion" and "Classic rider" above the count as that seem to encourage spam or whatever as you feel (not that I do, but I guess someone else do) you achieve something by posting indifferent comments. |
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 28-01-2015 13:47
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Personally i would be against any sort of possibility of liking/disliking posts. In every forum that has this system, half of the discussions are around how many likes there were ,so that would be even counterproductive given the former goal. And if there would be a possibility to dislike posts, it also creates tension and original poster being discouraged from posting again (i know it would be good in some cases).
I agree with this and have seen it first hand. The dislike feature was quickly ditched but I sense that's not going to be implemented here anyway.
Basically it's fine as it is, anyone who thinks that post count alone indicates the quality of a member seriously needs to get their head checked but it's not really an issue for the rest of us
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 28-01-2015 14:30
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Riis123 wrote:
Not in favor of that idea at all allthough I would be interesting to see how it actually would work. Everyone with something upstairs know that a post count is nothing more worth than a count who shows how many posts that particular user has made and I dont think the idea will eliminate those vague one or two-liners that every forum has to put up with.. If anything, I would just remove the "Grand Tour Champion" and "Classic rider" above the count as that seem to encourage spam or whatever as you feel (not that I do, but I guess someone else do) you achieve something by posting indifferent comments.
That's the beauty of being site owner. You guys could have disagreed all you want, but it would have been introduced anyway if AaB-ern had had the time
Now it's just an idea, and I'm still yet to see any arguments why it'd be worse than a post count.
And in response to other comments, I do agree that this place is pretty civilised without too much nonsense (except for SportingNonsense). I've done well |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 28-01-2015 14:55
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CrueTrue wrote:
Now it's just an idea, and I'm still yet to see any arguments why it'd be worse than a post count.
And we are yet to see why it would be actually better than a post count.
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 28-01-2015 15:03
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I don't get what all this is about...Do people actually give a **** about a high postcount? I thought this was all just sarcasm.
Hm...
Normally, in other forums, you can look at the postcount as an indication of how experienced a member is in the forum...for example SN, Jesleyh, TMM, CrueTrue...
Because there is a difference, if I am new to the forum and a guy with 3 posts answers me, or a guy with 3000 posts. But I think, because of some spammers, this doesn't work like this anymore...
But I think, if you want to change something, go ahead. If it should suck, you should be able to change it back to normal.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-01-2015 15:07
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But I think, because of some spammers, this doesn't work like this anymore...
Indeed, but actually with a points system, something like this would work way better, because spammers would have a lower rating than members that actually contribute something, so you'd be able to spot in a second if a member is a good contributor or not.
And yeah, it seems like some people actually do, yes.
Edited by Jesleyh on 28-01-2015 15:08
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 28-01-2015 15:14
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Jesleyh wrote:
But I think, because of some spammers, this doesn't work like this anymore...
Indeed, but actually with a points system, something like this would work way better, because spammers would have a lower rating than members that actually contribute something, so you'd be able to spot in a second if a member is a good contributor or not.
And yeah, it seems like some people actually do, yes.
Ah ok, thanks for clarifiying. But I think that some spammers would not be rated lower, because they would finally start to contribute something useful(And I'm not talking about 3364872384 Games at once )
I like that idea. But tbh, I don't really know how much work you would need for this. You would need to check every contribution(maybe you need more admins ) or maybe you also would need to adjust a bit on the side. I don't really know how this works. Do we actually get points for posts? Can you simply reduce the points, given for a post? Can you give points manually?
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-01-2015 15:17
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But I think that some spammers would not be rated lower, because they would finally start to contribute something useful
Now if that'd be the case(no way we can know, just a hypothesis), it would definitely be worth it to use the system, it'd improve the site in that case.
Not sure how it works exactly obviously, but it wouldn't be easy to implement at least.
Yeah I think the idea would be that you could upvote or downvote a post of a member(probably unvisible so that there won't be people whoring for likes), and an upvote or downvote would increase or decrease their ''bars''.
Obviously people that contribute would get upvoted more frequently and would have fuller bars over time.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-01-2015 15:24
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Jesleyh wrote:
But I think that some spammers would not be rated lower, because they would finally start to contribute something useful
Now if that'd be the case(no way we can know, just a hypothesis), it would definitely be worth it to use the system, it'd improve the site in that case.
Not sure how it works exactly obviously, but it wouldn't be easy to implement at least.
Yeah I think the idea would be that you could upvote or downvote a post of a member(probably unvisible so that there won't be people whoring for likes), and an upvote or downvote would increase or decrease their ''bars''.
Obviously people that contribute would get upvoted more frequently and would have fuller bars over time.
Not sure if this would really improve the site. I wouldn't like to see a facebook kind of situation here with likes and dislikes too much 
Maybe the post count could be invisible, gone. And instead of that, there's nothing. No ranking or whatever. You know which members are valuable and who's not. Maybe you can get a special "status" from a moderator if you're helpful so new members can see who to turn to or something... |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 28-01-2015 16:25
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Paul23 wrote:
I don't get what all this is about...Do people actually give a **** about a high postcount? I thought this was all just sarcasm.
something that naturally comes when people start making lists about unimportant lhings or using it as base of a joke.
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| roturn |
Posted on 28-01-2015 16:46
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If the Football World Cup in Qatar will be similar to the actual Handball WC there, we will see some awfully hilarious games.
The team of Qatar is like a mix of international stars.
And the refs are absoutely horrible towards Qatar. |
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