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TdF'13 Stage 9: Saint-Girons to Bagnères-de-Bigorre (July 7)
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-07-2013 08:31
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issoisso wrote:
I'm curious what Riis is going to do now that he's built a team around Contador and Contador is so obviously past it.
That is, if he's still around the sport next season.
Built it around Kreuziger, who will be better with age, If we can say that more experience is better for you psychical endurance, because that is stopping him from better results.
Or more likely buy another upcoming superstar.
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Posted on 08-07-2013 10:36
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Found an overview of the money made by the teams so far:
1. Omega Ph.-Quick Step 32.030 euro
2. Orica-GreenEdge 29.610 euro
3. Cannondale 29.100 euro
4. Vacansoleil-DCM 24.440 euro
5. Sky 23.860 euro
6. Movistar 23.490 euro
7. RadioShack-Leopard 16.950 euro
8. Argos-Shimano 15.820 euro
9. Lotto-Belisol 15.750 euro
10. Garmin-Sharp 14.150 euro
11. AG2R-La Mondiale 12.540 euro
12. Europcar 10.420 euro
13. Katusha 9.870 euro
14. Astana 8.290 euro
15. Belkin 7.710 euro
16. Team Saxo-Tinkoff 6.280 euro
17. BMC 5.950 euro
18. Sojasun 5.800 euro
19. Euskatel-Euskadi 5.190 euro
20. Lampre-Merida 4.920 euro
21. Cofidis 1.750 euro
22. FDJ.Fr 1.670 euro
Interesting is that Vacansoleil is up so high, I guess it pays to be in the breakaway every day. |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-07-2013 10:37
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Vacansoleil apparently got a lot of money by winning the team classification twice and end up high in intermediate sprints
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 08-07-2013 10:40
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It was quite obvious Vacansoleil is chasing money when Flecha got second in that intermediate sprint en route to Albi.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 08-07-2013 10:47
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
issoisso wrote:
I'm curious what Riis is going to do now that he's built a team around Contador and Contador is so obviously past it.
That is, if he's still around the sport next season.
Built it around Kreuziger, who will be better with age, If we can say that more experience is better for you psychical endurance, because that is stopping him from better results.
Or more likely buy another upcoming superstar.
I would say he would buy a big name as I doubt Kreuziger will develop into a genuine GT contender, possibly a podium in a weaker GT. in saying that he has looked good this week
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 08-07-2013 12:02
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^I always had high expectations for Roman, but he has never quite fulfilled them.
Edited by Schleck96 on 08-07-2013 12:02
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| pelle1994 |
Posted on 08-07-2013 12:04
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fuck team movistar. the dont have the yellow jerseay and are riding yellow helmets. i hate them
:banana hilipp
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| Cossack |
Posted on 08-07-2013 12:51
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They're leading team classification, Orica also had yellow helmets before. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 08-07-2013 14:11
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Don't think this has been linked anywhere so rest day recap viewing https://cyclocosm.com/2013/07/how-the-...tages-5-9/ |
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| thechudude |
Posted on 08-07-2013 14:15
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ShortsNL wrote:
Found an overview of the money made by the teams so far:
1. Omega Ph.-Quick Step 32.030 euro
2. Orica-GreenEdge 29.610 euro
3. Cannondale 29.100 euro
4. Vacansoleil-DCM 24.440 euro
5. Sky 23.860 euro
6. Movistar 23.490 euro
7. RadioShack-Leopard 16.950 euro
8. Argos-Shimano 15.820 euro
9. Lotto-Belisol 15.750 euro
10. Garmin-Sharp 14.150 euro
11. AG2R-La Mondiale 12.540 euro
12. Europcar 10.420 euro
13. Katusha 9.870 euro
14. Astana 8.290 euro
15. Belkin 7.710 euro
16. Team Saxo-Tinkoff 6.280 euro
17. BMC 5.950 euro
18. Sojasun 5.800 euro
19. Euskatel-Euskadi 5.190 euro
20. Lampre-Merida 4.920 euro
21. Cofidis 1.750 euro
22. FDJ.Fr 1.670 euro
Interesting is that Vacansoleil is up so high, I guess it pays to be in the breakaway every day.
How do they calculate this and what is it based on |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-07-2013 14:19
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thechudude wrote:
ShortsNL wrote:
Found an overview of the money made by the teams so far:
1. Omega Ph.-Quick Step 32.030 euro
2. Orica-GreenEdge 29.610 euro
3. Cannondale 29.100 euro
4. Vacansoleil-DCM 24.440 euro
5. Sky 23.860 euro
6. Movistar 23.490 euro
7. RadioShack-Leopard 16.950 euro
8. Argos-Shimano 15.820 euro
9. Lotto-Belisol 15.750 euro
10. Garmin-Sharp 14.150 euro
11. AG2R-La Mondiale 12.540 euro
12. Europcar 10.420 euro
13. Katusha 9.870 euro
14. Astana 8.290 euro
15. Belkin 7.710 euro
16. Team Saxo-Tinkoff 6.280 euro
17. BMC 5.950 euro
18. Sojasun 5.800 euro
19. Euskatel-Euskadi 5.190 euro
20. Lampre-Merida 4.920 euro
21. Cofidis 1.750 euro
22. FDJ.Fr 1.670 euro
Interesting is that Vacansoleil is up so high, I guess it pays to be in the breakaway every day.
How do they calculate this and what is it based on
Prize money all riders earned by stage wins, intermediate sprints. The team also win some money for team classification. Vacansoleil made so much money thanks to the intermediate sprints and team classifications
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| arthon |
Posted on 08-07-2013 14:19
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
issoisso wrote:
I'm curious what Riis is going to do now that he's built a team around Contador and Contador is so obviously past it.
That is, if he's still around the sport next season.
Built it around Kreuziger, who will be better with age, If we can say that more experience is better for you psychical endurance, because that is stopping him from better results.
I'm giving him two more years at the top at most, because he's just like Contador: burst out on the cycling scene at 20 and fade around 30. I'm not sure the effort of building a team around him is worth it, considering who's gonna be contesting GTs in the next 2 years. And besides, he only beat a bunch of nobodies for his best result in a GT, that 6th place in the 2011 Giro.
Roll on the hilly classics!
Edited by arthon on 08-07-2013 15:59
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-07-2013 17:27
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
issoisso wrote:
I'm curious what Riis is going to do now that he's built a team around Contador and Contador is so obviously past it.
That is, if he's still around the sport next season.
Built it around Kreuziger, who will be better with age, If we can say that more experience is better for you psychical endurance, because that is stopping him from better results.
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Oh ffs
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| fickman |
Posted on 08-07-2013 21:34
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Anyone knows if Pinot had a crash this year on a descent??? He is saying he is far back in the GC beacause he fears high Speed on downhill but watching Tour de France from last Year he didnt had that fear last Year. |
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| XxMillad24Xx |
Posted on 08-07-2013 21:36
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fickman wrote:
Anyone knows if Pinot had a crash this year on a descent??? He is saying he is far back in the GC beacause he fears high Speed on downhill but watching Tour de France from last Year he didnt had that fear last Year.
As a junior rider, he crashed hard on a descent and he said it's hard to overcome that fear of crashing again.
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| fickman |
Posted on 08-07-2013 22:18
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XxMillad24Xx wrote:
fickman wrote:
Anyone knows if Pinot had a crash this year on a descent??? He is saying he is far back in the GC beacause he fears high Speed on downhill but watching Tour de France from last Year he didnt had that fear last Year.
As a junior rider, he crashed hard on a descent and he said it's hard to overcome that fear of crashing again.
I read about that, my question is why was he able to overcome that fear last Year during the Tour but suddenly this Year he wets his pants on every single descent. I dont know if he crashed this Year during training or a race, that would explain why he is having this Year so much problems, but i cant find any info about such a thing. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 08-07-2013 22:48
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Jeanesson crashed ahead of him in Pais Vasco or Catalunya this year, and Pinot wet his pants there (not literally - not that I know at least).
That's where the fear came back, if I understood correctly. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 08-07-2013 23:04
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fickman wrote:
XxMillad24Xx wrote:
fickman wrote:
Anyone knows if Pinot had a crash this year on a descent??? He is saying he is far back in the GC beacause he fears high Speed on downhill but watching Tour de France from last Year he didnt had that fear last Year.
As a junior rider, he crashed hard on a descent and he said it's hard to overcome that fear of crashing again.
I read about that, my question is why was he able to overcome that fear last Year during the Tour but suddenly this Year he wets his pants on every single descent. I dont know if he crashed this Year during training or a race, that would explain why he is having this Year so much problems, but i cant find any info about such a thing.
Exert taken from Inrng on the subject:
"Pinot’s problems apparently stem from a crash as a junior when he broke both arms. He told L’Equipe he’s got a phobia of speed just like others are scared of snakes or spiders. The fear surfaces from time to time, a crash of team mate Arnold Jeannesson in the Tour of the Basque Country almost took out Pinot and this seems to have set off the mental crisis again. Pinot can recover, indeed the story goes that as a junior he was back on his bike rode down a flight of stairs with two arms in plaster." |
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| fickman |
Posted on 09-07-2013 00:05
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Thnxs 4 the info guys, thats a shame i hope he can get over it, it would be a shame that such a great talent get wasted because of such a thing. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 09-07-2013 08:00
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Well, off all things this is something I don't hold against a rider. Descending on WT level can be quite dangerous and I understand some people don't want to risk it. They'll suffer the consequences (career-wise), but at least they're staying alive. |
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