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Ian Butler's The Mole | Beta Version - Stage 3: The Race
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| ThaBomb99 |
Posted on 18-12-2012 20:01
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I'm in too when it bigins! |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-12-2012 20:38
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Good to hear. If you'd like to join it might be nice to follow this as well, to get to know the game well 
We'll need 24 players so let's hope we'll find 24 enthusiastic enough! |
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| ste_18 |
Posted on 18-12-2012 20:56
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Hi, can i ask what exactly the mole has to do? He has to sabotage the team or what? About the tatics: how must it be? I've to say if i want to attack, when etc. or what?
Sorry if this question are stupid... |
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 18-12-2012 21:00
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Looks very good. I'm in
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| Ad Bot |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 18-12-2012 21:01
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Jakstar22 wrote:
Looks very good. I'm in
sadly you can't get in yet 
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 18-12-2012 21:05
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Jakstar22 wrote:
Looks very good. I'm in
sadly you can't get in yet
I mean when it starts.
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| JuanMotr |
Posted on 18-12-2012 21:07
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Maybe even you could play Ian someone could help you with one of the groups that you would be part of |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-12-2012 21:32
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ste_18 wrote:
Hi, can i ask what exactly the mole has to do? He has to sabotage the team or what? About the tatics: how must it be? I've to say if i want to attack, when etc. or what?
Sorry if this question are stupid...
Those questions aren't stupid at all. The team has several objectives (post 3) to complete, for example, win a team classification, win a specific race... The Mole has to sabotage these objectives. Every objective has several points attached to it. If the team fails the objective, the mole gets the points. If the objective is a success, everyone else gets a point.
There is also a voting every race. The mole gets points if no one suspects him of being the mole. Others can earn points by rightly guessing the mole. That's it in short.
Send-in tactics depend from stage to stage. Mostly I send an answer with more questions if it isn't clear yet. For example: you send: attack on mountains.
I send back: follow favorite attacks, too? Attack on the first or second mountain?
You say: only follow GC threat's attacks, don't attack until the final 5km.
If another situation arises during the race (a GC threat got away early in the race for some reason), I will try to act accordingly to your tactic. You can be real detailed, and give me options for several situations, or give me a general tactic.
The Mole's tactics vary greatly. Fake a flat, Fast-Edit stats, lead-out the sprinter way too late, don't get water bottles, faking injury...
But the rules will be explained to everyone when I start up the game much clearer than this! Hope these answers suffice for now, feel free to ask any questions!
Jakstar22 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Jakstar22 wrote:
Looks very good. I'm in
sadly you can't get in yet
I mean when it starts.
Very glad to hear that
JuanMotr wrote:
Maybe even you could play Ian someone could help you with one of the groups that you would be part of
If I find 24 members that want to play this game, I'll be a very happy man and I'd be more than happy to make this a game very enjoyable, I don't need to play myself if everyone is having a good time, but thanks for thinking about me |
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| ste_18 |
Posted on 18-12-2012 21:38
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Thanks Ian. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 18-12-2012 22:43
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When it begins, I'm here. Great idea for a non man game copycat story game.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 18-12-2012 23:14
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Pre-sign me as one of the 24! 
Edited by FreitasPCM on 18-12-2012 23:14
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 18-12-2012 23:15
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Nice to see all these wannabe Moles signing up for the full edition |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 19-12-2012 08:48
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Very happy to see this many interested
Baseballlover312: Glad you like that idea. I always thought The Mole was a great tv series so I tried adapting it to PCM, changing some rules and making my own points system. I'm glad it's working out (so far)!
Team The Mole: Well, today I overslept, having some major sleeping-problems lately. I have to postpone the next stage a bit. I'll get working on my school right now and hopefully have a good, concentrated day so I can still race the next stage later this afternoon! Thank you for your patience. And thanks for sending in all tactics so fast. I can tell you this will be a very interesting race, despite the flat-ish profile!!
Edited by Ian Butler on 19-12-2012 08:51
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 19-12-2012 09:58
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Overslept my a**e 
Admit it, Your getting excited because the big fella with the white beard is coming in less than a week |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 19-12-2012 10:06
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You mean the Grim Reaper?
Don't worry, my school task is making a blog, and I'm working on it right now. Good on schedule, should be done in just a couple of hours |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 19-12-2012 12:35
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Before posting the report of stage 2, first this:
After a stage and before voting, it's allowed to ask direct questions to other members. If someone screwed up: you can ask what happened before voting. That gives the members a chance to explain their actions and the mole a chance to lie his way out of his sabotage!
So if you gave me an order and it turned sour, feel free to defend yourself here! Report coming up in a while, it'll take some time to write (20 screenshots) |
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| Daggen |
Posted on 19-12-2012 13:01
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I'm in when the thingamadjig begins |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 19-12-2012 13:06
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Stage 2: The Race
The profile of the day seems fairly flat, but the slopes are steep and demanding. Let's see how the team did today.
The Goat, Ypritsky, opened the attacks with a fast start. He's clearly looking for a way to give the team an easy day in the pack.
The first reaction came only seconds later, by no one else than our own Wild One, Sutton.
However, the two were unable to create a gap big enough and the peloton caught up with them soon enough. The didn't have the energy to attack again.
Meanwhile, The Giant, Hoyle, spend his time getting water for the team, here we see him giving water to the Smurf. What a difference in height.
The slopes were tough and steep, while there was no one to help The Raging Bull, the main sprinter Veenhof. He was mostly on his own today.
The Wild One still had plans in mind and as soon as he got some energy back, he went looking for other attackers.
Finally some success as he joined the Breakaway of the Day. Their maximum gap: 5 minutes.
But Sutton had wasted too much energy and can't take any points for the Mountain Jersey. The Wild One looked tame.
Between the two mountain sprints, he decided the only way to fly was to fly alone. He opted for a surprise attack.
Meanwhile back in the peloton: Gömböcz, the Hungry Hunyak, wasn't so hungry today. He had good legs but wasn't prepared to make an effort today. He got water bottles and sat back in the peloton. His job is not on the flat.
And to everyone's surprise the first rider to be picked up was The Wild One. His solo attack didn't last too long and he barely managed to keep up with the peloton for the rest of the race. He had given 110%.
And for Team The Mole it's surprise after surprise, as Big Chief Thompson, the GC leader, provides the team with a lead-out train. He must be feeling good, to do this kind of work for the sprinters! Fast Joe Smith took over from him.
Then only three remained, The Giant, The Smurf and The Raging Bull, a combination bound for success.
Ventoso surprised the lead-out train with an early sprint, and Ferreira, the Smurf, tried to take Ventoso's wheel instead of hanging on the lead-out. Boeckmans got in his way and The Smurf missed Ventoso's wheel. Here we see him desperately trying to pass Boeckmans, sprinting.
The Raging Bull was confused and chose to follow the stream, as he had lost Ferreira's wheel in the chaos. He started his sprint.
But Ventoso had managed to overtake everyone with his early, surprise sprint. He wins the first sprinter's stage with quite a margin.
Veenhof, The Raging Bull, finishes 4th, taking some points for the green jersey.
All in all, it was a tough day for the team. Constant attacking made for a fast paced day. The lead-out went well until Ventoso caused confusion. There will be some people looking for an explanation after today...
Result
| 1 | Francisco Ventoso | Movistar Team | 4h18'01 | | 2 | Thor Hushovd | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 3 | Tomas Vaitkus | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 4 | Johan Veenhof | The Mole | s.t. | | 5 | Daniel Oss | Liquigas-Cannondale | s.t. | | 6 | Borut Bozic | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 7 | Gert Steegmans | Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 8 | Christopher Sutton | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 9 | Robert Hunter | Team Garmin-Barracuda | s.t. | | 10 | Jens Keukeleire | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. |
Spoiler | 11 | Kris Boeckmans | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 12 | Samuel Sánchez | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 13 | Alexander Kristoff | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 14 | Lloyd Mondory | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 15 | Alberto Contador | Team Saxo Bank | s.t. | | 16 | Michael Albasini | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 17 | Fabio Sabatini | Liquigas-Cannondale | s.t. | | 18 | Simon Clarke | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 19 | Kristof Goddaert | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 20 | Sébastien Turgot | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 21 | Jean-Christophe Péraud | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 22 | Thomas Voeckler | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 23 | Adam Blythe | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 24 | Fränk Schleck | Radioshack Nissan Trek | s.t. | | 25 | Daniele Pietropolli | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 26 | Daniel Navarro Garcia | Team Saxo Bank | s.t. | | 27 | Ben Hermans | Radioshack Nissan Trek | s.t. | | 28 | Ben Swift | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 29 | Danilo Hondo | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 30 | Marco Marcato | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 31 | Egoi MartÃnez | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 32 | Marcos Ferreira | The Mole | s.t. | | 33 | Ãngel Vicioso | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 34 | Francesco Masciarelli | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 35 | Janez Brajkovic | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 36 | Sep Vanmarcke | Team Garmin-Barracuda | s.t. | | 37 | Martin Elmiger | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 38 | Cadel Evans | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 39 | Davide Vigano | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 40 | Wout Poels | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 41 | Sergey Lagutin | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 42 | Diego Ulissi | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 43 | Leonardo Bertagnolli | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 44 | Phil Hoyle | The Mole | s.t. | | 45 | Mitch Thompson | The Mole | s.t. | | 46 | Arnold Jeannesson | FDJ-BigMat | s.t. | | 47 | Jérôme Pineau | Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 48 | Pieter Weening | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 49 | Gregory Henderson | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 50 | Vincenzo Nibali | Liquigas-Cannondale | s.t. | | 51 | Matteo Trentin | Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 52 | Simone Stortoni | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 53 | Maxime Monfort | Radioshack Nissan Trek | s.t. | | 54 | Moreno Moser | Liquigas-Cannondale | s.t. | | 55 | Joe Smith | The Mole | s.t. | | 56 | Daniel Moreno | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 57 | Kristijan Koren | Liquigas-Cannondale | s.t. | | 58 | Steve Morabito | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 59 | Paul Martens | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 60 | Anthony Ravard | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 61 | Arnaud Démare | FDJ-BigMat | s.t. | | 62 | Przemyslaw Niemiec | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 63 | Svein Tuft | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 64 | Thibaut Pinot | FDJ-BigMat | s.t. | | 65 | Cameron Meyer | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 66 | Frederik Willems | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 67 | Jimmy Casper | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 68 | Denis Kostyuk | Lampre-ISD | s.t. | | 69 | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ-BigMat | s.t. | | 70 | Sylvester Szmyd | Liquigas-Cannondale | s.t. | | 71 | Alexandros Ypritsky | The Mole | s.t. | | 72 | Pablo Lastras | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 73 | Lieuwe Westra | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 74 | Máté Gömböcz | The Mole | s.t. | | 75 | Olivier Kaisen | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 76 | Francesco Chicchi | Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 77 | Enrico Gasparotto | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 78 | Jürgen Van De Walle | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 79 | Anthony Roux | FDJ-BigMat | s.t. | | 80 | Carlos Barredo | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 81 | Pierrick Fédrigo | FDJ-BigMat | s.t. | | 82 | Yoann Offredo | FDJ-BigMat | s.t. | | 83 | Arthur Vichot | FDJ-BigMat | s.t. | | 84 | Matteo Tosatto | Team Saxo Bank | s.t. | | 85 | Dries Devenyns | Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 86 | Levi Leipheimer | Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 87 | Francis De Greef | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 88 | Matteo Carrara | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 89 | Michal Kwiatkowski | Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 90 | Jurgen Van den Broeck | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 91 | Mikel Nieve | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 92 | Bauke Mollema | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 93 | Johnny Hoogerland | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 94 | Bradley Wiggins | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 95 | Christophe Riblon | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 96 | Baden Cooke | Orica-GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 97 | Chris Froome | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 98 | David Millar | Team Garmin-Barracuda | s.t. | | 99 | Marcus Burghardt | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 100 | Christophe Le Mével | Team Garmin-Barracuda | s.t. | | 101 | Nicolas Roche | Ag2r La Mondiale | s.t. | | 102 | Mathew Hayman | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 103 | Juan Antonio Flecha | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 104 | Robert Gesink | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 105 | Karsten Kroon | Team Saxo Bank | s.t. | | 106 | Kevin Van Impe | Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 107 | Nicki Sørensen | Team Saxo Bank | s.t. | | 108 | Joost Van Leijen | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 109 | Simone Ponzi | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 110 | Kevin De Weert | Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 111 | Matteo Pelucchi | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 112 | Massimo Codol | Acqua & Sapone | s.t. | | 113 | Rafaâ Chtioui | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 114 | Christophe Kern | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 115 | Eros Capecchi | Liquigas-Cannondale | s.t. | | 116 | Luca Paolini | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 117 | Laurens Ten Dam | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 118 | Cyril Gautier | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 119 | Christian Vandevelde | Team Garmin-Barracuda | s.t. | | 120 | Tom Danielson | Team Garmin-Barracuda | s.t. | | 121 | Gary Sutton | The Mole | s.t. | | 122 | Alexandre Geniez | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 123 | Vasil Kiryienka | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 124 | Andreas Klöden | Radioshack Nissan Trek | s.t. | | 125 | Manuel Quinziato | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 126 | Gorka Verdugo | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 127 | Luis León Sánchez | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 128 | Peter Stetina | Team Garmin-Barracuda | s.t. | | 129 | Simon Geschke | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 130 | Rigoberto Uran | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 131 | Amets Txurruka | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 132 | Paolo Tiralongo | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 133 | Chris Anker Sørensen | Team Saxo Bank | s.t. | | 134 | Dominic Klemme | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 135 | Juan José Cobo Acebo | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 136 | David Arroyo | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 137 | Anthony Charteau | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 138 | Christian Knees | Sky Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 139 | Vladimir Karpets | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 140 | Juan Manuel Gárate | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 141 | Andy Schleck | Radioshack Nissan Trek | s.t. | | 142 | Fabian Wegmann | Team Garmin-Barracuda | s.t. | | 143 | Fabio Taborre | Acqua & Sapone | s.t. | | 144 | Rubén Plaza | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 145 | Stef Clement | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 146 | Marzio Bruseghin | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 147 | Eduard Vorganov | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 148 | Ion Izagirre | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 149 | Alexandre Vinokourov | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 150 | Haimar Zubeldia | Radioshack Nissan Trek | s.t. | | 151 | Tiago Machado | Radioshack Nissan Trek | s.t. | | 152 | Dmitriy Muravyev | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 153 | Roger Kluge | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 154 | Alessandro Proni | Acqua & Sapone | s.t. | | 155 | Xavier Florencio | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 156 | Yann Huguet | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 157 | Damiano Caruso | Liquigas-Cannondale | s.t. | | 158 | Simon Spilak | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 159 | Francesco Ginanni | Acqua & Sapone | s.t. | | 160 | Thierry Hupond | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 161 | Carlos Alberto Betancourt | Acqua & Sapone | s.t. | | 162 | Wladimir Miholjevic | Acqua & Sapone | s.t. | | 163 | Vladimir Gusev | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 164 | Lars Ytting Bak | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 165 | Pablo Urtasun | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 166 | Bruno Pires | Team Saxo Bank | s.t. | | 167 | Johann Tschopp | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 168 | Juan Jose Oroz | Euskaltel Euskadi | s.t. | | 169 | Jakob Fuglsang | Radioshack Nissan Trek | s.t. | | 170 | Johannes Fröhlinger | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 171 | Amaël Moinard | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 172 | David Tanner | Team Saxo Bank | s.t. | | 173 | Mathieu Sprick | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 174 | Claudio Corioni | Acqua & Sapone | + 3'27 | | 175 | Ruggero Marzoli | Acqua & Sapone | s.t. | | 176 | Damien Gaudin | Team Europcar | s.t. |
Points
| 1 | Thor Hushovd | BMC Racing Team | 37 | | 2 | Francisco Ventoso | Movistar Team | 20 | | 3 | Levi Leipheimer | Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team | 17 | | 4 | Bradley Wiggins | Sky Pro Cycling | 15 | | 5 | Tomas Vaitkus | Orica-GreenEDGE | 15 | | 6 | Samuel Sánchez | Euskaltel Euskadi | 14 | | 7 | David Millar | Team Garmin-Barracuda | 13 | | 8 | Johan Veenhof | The Mole | 13 | | 9 | Vladimir Karpets | Movistar Team | 11 | | 10 | Daniel Oss | Liquigas-Cannondale | 11 |
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| ste_18 |
Posted on 19-12-2012 13:08
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I haven't said it but naturally when this will start i'm in. |
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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 19-12-2012 13:27
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Why were you so offensive Sutton? Tactically you made some wrong decisions. The Goat had already attacked at the start, but you went to join him? There was no need to have 2 guys in the break... and when you went again, you were too tired to do anything.
Also where was the protection for Raging Bull on the climbs? I was busy getting bottles, but no one was protecting him!
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