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Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco, 4-9 April
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| roturn |
Posted on 09-04-2011 16:29
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Klöden back to his old strenght... Obviously he became a great puncheur/timetrialist but therefore weaker in the high mountains. Interesting to see him in the Ardennes. He already did quite well last year with nice attacks there. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 09-04-2011 16:29
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Klödi wins the GC, Martin the stage. What an excellent race from the German.
Which German? =P
Kidding, the Shack domination =O
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 09-04-2011 16:30
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Kloden makes second in P-N and win tour of basque
Yea but Kloden is proved time trialer Before this season was Gesink considered good at time trials ?
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| kumazan |
Posted on 09-04-2011 16:33
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Alakagom wrote:
Actually
Kloden makes second in P-N and win tour of basque
Yea but Kloden is proved time trialer Before this season was Gesink considered good at time trials ?
He was in hilly TTs.  |
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Posted on 09-04-2011 16:34
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Wow, Klöden is really back at his best this season.
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Posted on 09-04-2011 16:35
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kumazan wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Actually
Kloden makes second in P-N and win tour of basque
Yea but Kloden is proved time trialer Before this season was Gesink considered good at time trials ?
He was in hilly TTs.
Ok, you have a point, but Tirreno tt wasn't hilly But you can see he improved his tt over winter very much.
Martin looks deadly fun in the Spanish hat
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Posted on 09-04-2011 16:51
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The T-A ITT was half as long. Gesink isn't bad in short, flat time trials either. It's the long flat ITTs where he suffers.
And that is a Basque hat. They call it 'Txapela'. Beware of what you say, you could have some problems if you say that in the Basque Country. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 09-04-2011 16:56
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Thanks for the tip, will remember the name from now on I guess we will wait till Tour to see how Gesink improved, but in my eyes he is much better, than last year on his position etc.
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Posted on 09-04-2011 19:06
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Schllierenzauer wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
So Gesink podiums both in TA and Tour of the Basque after the final time trial... Who would've thought Good on him!
Actually
Kloden makes second in P-N and win tour of basque
looks like he's middle glas years are over..and he is back. I believe that this can be he's best season start ever.
But don't tell him that he can be Schack leader for tour..he will run away. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 09-04-2011 19:26
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Alakagom wrote:
Thanks for the tip, will remember the name from now on I guess we will wait till Tour to see how Gesink improved, but in my eyes he is much better, than last year on his position etc.
To clarify my position, I do agree that Gesink has improved his TT skills. What I meant is that it isn't really a surprise to see him do well in short/hilly TTs. |
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| Conran |
Posted on 09-04-2011 19:46
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true, but he gained time today in the second, more descent/flat part of the race *only lost a bit at Martin, i believe*
(i not really sure tbh, i think he was around 45 sec at the 12km mark and 50 sec at the finish, where others lost more, if i remember correctly) |
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| ruben |
Posted on 10-04-2011 12:45
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Alakagom wrote:
So Gesink podiums both in TA and Tour of the Basque after the final time trial... Who would've thought Good on him!
I did. Told you guys for years and years that Gesink is not a bad time triallist. He was nieuwelingen (the category before juniors) and junior ITT champion and 7th at the junior worlds ITT.
Told you if he just focussed on his position he would automatically come to the front. But you guys kept telling me it was impossible and it would never happen.
A big TOLD YOU SO... to you all. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 10-04-2011 12:48
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kumazan wrote:
The T-A ITT was half as long. Gesink isn't bad in short, flat time trials either. It's the long flat ITTs where he suffers.
And that is a Basque hat. They call it 'Txapela'. Beware of what you say, you could have some problems if you say that in the Basque Country.
Are you joking?
Get all Gesink prologue/short FLAT itt results out. He completely sucked at that, often finished 75th or worse...
In long flat ITT in Dauphine 2009 he was 12th for crying out loud.
He's going to go far better in long flat itt's now.
Also, Gesink did the fastest last part of the GC contenders yesterday. The last part is the flat part.... He was even 10 seconds faster than Klöden on the flat part....
Just stop fooling yourself to think Gesink would still suffer in flat itt's. Because you are gonna regret it |
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Posted on 10-04-2011 12:49
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Posted on 10-04-2011 12:50
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I've always believed in Gesink entirely because you told us over and over again how strogn he was at time trialling.
That said the real challenge is to see how well he does over a real GT route.
Also congrats to Kloden he's been very solid this year.
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| siwi |
Posted on 10-04-2011 12:54
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Gesink still needs something in the mountains to be in the top 3 in a GT though, i think. |
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Posted on 10-04-2011 12:58
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yeah, the 2 height training camps in may (before dauphine) and july (after dauphine) will do that |
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Posted on 10-04-2011 12:59
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When Dekker returns, will this Gesink-obsession end? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 10-04-2011 13:16
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If he immediately wins the Tour of Austria, probably |
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Posted on 13-04-2011 21:22
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Just finished watching all the stages.
That's an incredible ride by Klöden. Quite a renaissance at this late age.
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