Bayern Rundfahrt Discussion
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Imladrik |
Posted on 07-05-2023 18:22
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We’re in Bayern today, for the twelfth edition of the Rundfahrt. A four stages race, with two individual time-trials, one of them being over 40 kilometers – and it’s the opener! Between these stages, a flattish stage which should not disturb the sprinters too much, and a mountain rated stage, which should favor the more explosives of the climbers.
Last year winner Dunbar comes back here with Indosat Ooredoo. He’s the only one of the former winners to be here, if I’m not mistaken.
Let’s see whether he’s one of the favorites.
Full startlist:
Spoiler Durbridge | Luke | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Amaysim Cervélo | Haig | Jack | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Amaysim Cervélo | O'Connor | Ben | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Amaysim Cervélo | Turnbull | Carter | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Amaysim Cervélo | Harper | Chris | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Amaysim Cervélo | Porter | Rudy | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Amaysim Cervélo | Schreurs | Hamish | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Amaysim Cervélo | Paillot | Yoann | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Assa Abloy | Gonzalez Salas | Mario | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Assa Abloy | Bergstrom Frisk | Hannes | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Assa Abloy | Van der Haar | Lars | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Assa Abloy | Veyhe | Torkil | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Assa Abloy | Bergstrom Frisk | Erik | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Assa Abloy | Kaczmarek | Jakub | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Binance | Rodrigues | Joao | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Binance | Benito | Miguel Angel | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Binance | Bartl | David | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Binance | Aular | Orluis | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Binance | Van Lerberghe | Bert | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Binance | Seigle | Roman | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Binance | Antunes | Amaro | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Binance | Hadi | Janvier | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bralirwa - 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tsmoha |
Posted on 07-05-2023 18:42
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Given the amount of TT kilometers, we obviously must expect Durbridge to win at least one stage here. That's surely a goal here.
Also Haig obviously must be considered a GC contender. He hasn't exactly done the best possible results this year (still a consistent delivery of scoring results), so it would be nice to get something big here. Anything but the podium would be kinda disappointing, even though we probably can live with "low key" results at this point of the season.
Thanks for the preview!
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Fabianski |
Posted on 07-05-2023 20:00
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One of Mäder's rare chances to lead us this year. He did very well in California - but that was C2. Nonetheless, it looks like this might be our best HC scoring opportunity of the year, having contenders for every stage and the GC. It could also completely backfire, like it did in Hallstatt, Wallonie and mostly in Poland. A Top15 would be great, plus a couple of decent stage results. Rekita is yet to win a TT in a stage race
Thanks for the preview!
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Marcovdw |
Posted on 07-05-2023 20:29
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Cattaneo, Dennis, Brown and Kalaba. We have to score big here to secure promotion.
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quadsas |
Posted on 07-05-2023 21:46
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Probably the last potentially high scoring race of the season. Which probably means 20 points max. Lets gooooooo
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whitejersey |
Posted on 07-05-2023 22:21
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We're going down for 0 points here I am pretty sure, looking forward to watching the action unfold tho! Maybe Quin Hermans can produce some breakaway miracles again!
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jandal7 |
Posted on 07-05-2023 23:55
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Hope for Habtemichael to have some great days on the TT bike but unsure if it's possible. Houle hasn't been on his game sprinting this season but obviously would love a stage win if it's possible
Really deep field here! Thanks for the preview Imladrik, looking forward to it even if it could be dire for us
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baseballlover312 |
Posted on 08-05-2023 00:53
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This is our win goal. A win is very unlikely, so we'll shelve that.
Kamna's last big race of the season. On paper, it suits him perfectly. Two long TT's and a mountain stage, but the mountain stage shouldn't provide super tremendous gaps. However, the competition is tough, especially as far as climbers go. And Kamna hasn't been amazing in TT's generally this year. So if he has another dud, it will be a colossal failure. It's a big race for us in the promotion hunt, so we have to hope for the best.
Thanks for the preview!
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AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 08-05-2023 07:38
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Penasa did fine where last season but the field is stronger this time and will be harder for us to get something. Need the mountain stage to be very selective for it to help us. Expectations are lower after the seeing the startlist, so whatever we can get from here will be a bonus.
Thanks for the preview Imlaridk
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Ezeefreak |
Posted on 08-05-2023 07:56
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I dont have any expectations for that race and I am already happy our jersey is sseen twice in the preview. Maybe we can set some highlight here and present our colors.
Thanks for the preview!
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redordead |
Posted on 08-05-2023 08:38
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Maybe one of my riders can surprise here, but need to get pretty lucky for that I think. I'm interested to see how the mountain stage is raced.
Thanks for the preview
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Eden95 |
Posted on 08-05-2023 14:59
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This race could again be the difference between survival and relegation for us. Dunbar put on probably the best ride an Indosat rider has ever done to win here in that TT last season. I don’t expect him to do it again, but we are in desperate need of a top-5 result - anything else could be our death knell.
And such a strong field - Cattaneo and Haig the big threats from a MT perspective, considering both can back it up in the TT department. Conci and Kamna the clones. Reis and Shikai not far behind, with riders like Dennis hanging around. The MT stage doesn’t usually throw up huge gaps, so we have to hope Dunbar doesn’t have a bad day and can keep up and limit his losses to the big climbers. He’s done well in TT’s so far this season, can only hope that continues. So anxious for this race, if we fail and a few teams have a big ToA we are in trouble.
Thank you for the preview, it was a good read
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DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 08-05-2023 16:10
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Hoping Ludvigsson can make sure this is not a zero pointer for Kraftwerk.
Thanks for the preview Imladrik.
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baseballlover312 |
Posted on 08-05-2023 17:06
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Certainly not a bad start for Kamna with this deep a field, but also not amazing. Gained a bit of time on some better climbers, but not enough to be comfortable. Honestly, I expected slightly bigger gaps given the length. I wonder what they'll be like on stage 4, which is shorter but comes after more exertion.
Deserved win for Paillot, congrats!
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tsmoha |
Posted on 08-05-2023 17:25
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Disappointing, particularly from Durbridge! Guess it can get only better after this opener.
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whitejersey |
Posted on 08-05-2023 17:26
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Expect start for us. TTing has never been our strongest suit. Looks like Dunbar is going to have a good race, which I like since he's a very likeable rider.
Hopefully GVK goes into the break tomorrow.
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Fabianski |
Posted on 08-05-2023 22:01
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Well, Rekita continues to disappoint in stage races - I guess every tiny road bump is too much for him.
On the other hand, Mäder did a good job - although losing almost a minute to Rikunov feels... weird. If he performs like a 77Mo climber on day 3, a Top 15 or even lower Top 10 should be possible, but we'll see. Up to Stepniak to get us some stage points tomorrow, given that his compatriot was unable to do so today.
Congrats to Assa Abloy, Paillot definitely made great use of his skillset on that profile. And thanks for the report to Imladrik.
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Marcovdw |
Posted on 08-05-2023 22:03
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Cattaneo starts off well, Dennis could be better. Hoping both can work together on stage three.
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jandal7 |
Posted on 09-05-2023 00:01
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Minor disappointment from MVN stage-wise, but very solid Habtemichael day!
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quadsas |
Posted on 09-05-2023 01:39
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No it doesnt
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