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 Tour de Pologne
We head to Poland for a week-long HC stage race which offers a bit to almost all types of riders. We open with a short TT/Prologue before the first HIL stage. There are then 2 long stages which provide opportunities for the sprinters. We then finish the week with 3 stages in the hills although there may be some MO impact as well.
| GC | 2nd | 3rd | | 2020 | Gesink | Cattaneo | Yates | | 2019 | Lecuisinier | Boasson Hagen | Keinath | | 2018 | Ulissi | Anuar Aziz | Schreurs | | 2017 | Froome | Ulissi | Van Garderen |
There has been a mix of well-rounded Climbers as well as Puncheurs on the podium over the years but, if 2020 is anything to go by, then the Hybrid Climber/Puncheurs will be the ones to look out for here. Gesink does return for another shot but it won't be easy for him here.
Many would expect one of the top 2 favourites to win the GC here. Both have strong support so it'll be about consistency.  Beltran is generally more aggressive but he will be on the back foot after the prologue compared to  Kwiatkowski.
It would be ill advised to look past others in this list too though.  Carthy &  Latour two of the stronger climbers while the likes of  Moscon and  Paulinho prefer the shorter, sharper, climbs.
| | MO | HIL | TT | REC | ACC | FTR | PRO | | Beltran | 79 | 81 | 66 | 72 | 76 | 78 | 66 | | Kwiatkowski | 78 | 81 | 70 | 75 | 75 | 73 | 75 | | Carthy | 81 | 75 | 67 | 78 | 69 | 65 | 65 | | Latour | 80 | 75 | 70 | 80 | 74 | 80 | 74 | | Paulinho | 75 | 80 | 64 | 74 | 75 | 70 | 64 | | Moscon | 73 | 79 | 66 | 75 | 73 | 71 | 70 |  | Reichenbach | 73 | 79 | 67 | 73 | 69 | 73 | 67 |  | Boily | 76 | 78 | 70 | 69 | 74 | 69 | 61 |  | Teuns | 75 | 78 | 64 | 76 | 72 | 70 | 60 | | Moazemi | 73 | 78 | 69 | 75 | 73 | 65 | 67 |  | Gesink | 79 | 77 | 76 | 74 | 62 | 68 | 76 |  | Poljanski | 77 | 77 | 67 | 76 | 71 | 73 | 67 | | Uran | 80 | 72 | 76 | 72 | 68 | 65 | 76 |  | Bongiorno | 79 | 75 | 68 | 77 | 69 | 69 | 68 |  | Faglum Karlsson | 79 | 73 | 73 | 76 | 68 | 66 | 79 |
Outside of the top GC favourites, there are a number of riders who will be stage hunting when they're not supporting a GC leader. The top name here that stands out is Ponzi but there are plenty of other strong riders here. McCarthy has been in strong form so far this season but his focus will likely be on supporting his team leader for the GC.
| | HIL | STA | SPR | ACC |  | Kinoshita | 83 | 80 | 68 | 77 | | Ponzi | 82 | 74 | 74 | 77 | | McCarthy | 81 | 80 | 65 | 74 | | Di Maggio | 81 | 72 | 64 | 74 |  | Bakelants | 80 | 75 | 69 | 72 |  | Prevar | 80 | 77 | 67 | 73 |  | Schreurs | 80 | 74 | 70 | 72 |
It's a lot of RDs for a top sprinter to use and that may explain why there aren't too many top sprinters here. You'd expect the Carrefour duo of Van Stayen and Hayakawa to be up there but acceleration may also make a difference. Guardini should be a threat too.
| | FLA | REC | SPR | ACC | | Van Stayen | 75 | 78 | 83 | 76 | | Haller | 72 | 76 | 80 | 79 | | Guardini | 72 | 71 | 80 | 82 | | Kalaba | 74 | 76 | 79 | 79 |  | Lander | 77 | 79 | 79 | 77 | | Boudat | 73 | 78 | 79 | 78 | | Hayakawa | 73 | 76 | 79 | 79 | | Afewerki | 73 | 81 | 79 | 80 |  | Perera | 71 | 77 | 79 | 80 | | Itami | 74 | 76 | 79 | 81 | | Lutsyshyn | 70 | 74 | 79 | 80 |  | Zariff | 68 | 76 | 78 | 78 |  | Alaphilippe | 72 | 81 | 77 | 77 | | Zhao | 74 | 74 | 77 | 81 |
The opening stage provides an opportunity for the clock specialists to get a stage win and also lead the GC for a stage. They can be a little unpredictable but these are the ones we will be keeping a close eye on.
| | TT | PRO | | Gonzalez Salas | 80 | 80 | | Kittel | 80 | 80 | | Oliveira | 79 | 79 |  | Brändle | 79 | 79 | | Hansen | 77 | 79 | | Golovash | 78 | 78 | | Balloni | 78 | 78 |
Startlist
Spoiler | Takeaki | Amezawa | Aker - MOT | | Davide | Ballerini | Aker - MOT | | Edison | Bravo | Aker - MOT | | Tobias | Foss | Aker - MOT | | Lasse Norman | Hansen | Aker - MOT | | Michal | Kwiatkowski | Aker - MOT | | Peter | Pruus | Aker - MOT | | David | Wohrer | Aker - MOT | | Marcus | Faglum Karlsson | Assa Abloy | | Jan-Andre | Freuler | Assa Abloy | | Tony | Gallopin | Assa Abloy | | Elie | Gesbert | Assa Abloy | | Mario | Gonzalez Salas | Assa Abloy | | Jacopo | Mosca | Assa Abloy | | Paolo | Scarponi | Assa Abloy | | Robbie | Squire | Assa Abloy | | Luis | Afonso | Binance Cycling | | Amaro | Antunes | Binance Cycling | | Davide | Gabburo | Binance Cycling | | Andrea | Guardini | Binance Cycling | | Pedro Miguel | Paulinho | Binance Cycling | | Rafael | Silva | Binance Cycling | | Clement | Venturini | Binance Cycling | | Joel | Yates | Binance Cycling | | Houcaine | El Sabbahi | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Samuel | Mugisha | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Moise | Mugisha | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Valens | Ndayisenga | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Madushanka | Perera | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Joey | Rosskopf | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Natnael | Tesfatsion | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Andrea | Vendrame | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Alex | Aranburu | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Kasper | Asgreen | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Mathias | Krigbaum | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Olli | Kulppi | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Sebastian | Lander | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Ramon | Sinkeldam | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Matus | Stocek | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Joel | Suter | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Jan | Bakelants | Carrefour - ESPN | | Patrick | Bercz | Carrefour - ESPN | | Juan Ernesto | Chamorro | Carrefour - ESPN | | Thomas | Faiers | Carrefour - ESPN | | Taylor | Gunman | Carrefour - ESPN | | Tomohiro | Hayakawa | Carrefour - ESPN | | Kazushige | Kuboki | Carrefour - ESPN | | Michael | Van Stayen | Carrefour - ESPN | | Andres Camilo | Ardila | Cedevita | | Eduard Alexander | Beltran | Cedevita | | Havard | Blikra | Cedevita | | Alexander | Evans | Cedevita | | David | Gaudu | Cedevita | | Tadej | Pogacar | Cedevita | | Matej | Vysna | Cedevita | | Andrea | Zordan | Cedevita | | Hugh | Carthy | cycleYorkshire | | Dimitrios | Christakos | cycleYorkshire | | Matthew | Holmes | cycleYorkshire | | Tim | Kennaugh | cycleYorkshire | | Jay | McCarthy | cycleYorkshire | | Ivo | Oliveira | cycleYorkshire | | Javier | Romo | cycleYorkshire | | Anders | Skaarseth | cycleYorkshire | | Nicola | Bagioli | Duolingo | | Robert | Gesink | Duolingo | | Choon Huat | Goh | Duolingo | | Yoshimitsu | Hiratsuka | Duolingo | | Jakub | Kaczmarek | Duolingo | | Hayden | McCormick | Duolingo | | Tim | Merlier | Duolingo | | Rui | Oliveira | Duolingo | | Emil | Andersson | Eddie Stobart | | Gerald | Ciolek | Eddie Stobart | | Linus | Dahlberg | Eddie Stobart | | Gert | Joeaar | Eddie Stobart | | Davide | Malacarne | Eddie Stobart | | Dmitri | Medvedev | Eddie Stobart | | Salvador | Moreno Hernandez | Eddie Stobart | | Daniel | Savini | Eddie Stobart | | John | Archibald | Eurosport x GCN | | Michael | Cuming | Eurosport x GCN | | Alex | Dowsett | Eurosport x GCN | | Kenji | Itami | Eurosport x GCN | | Mikel | Landa | Eurosport x GCN | | Dan | McLay | Eurosport x GCN | | Maurice | Schreurs | Eurosport x GCN | | Jasper | Stuyven | Eurosport x GCN | | Alfredo | Balloni | Jura - Fiat | | Thomas | Boudat | Jura - Fiat | | Fabian | Lienhard | Jura - Fiat | | Gianni | Moscon | Jura - Fiat | | Hermann | Pernsteiner | Jura - Fiat | | Szymon | Rekita | Jura - Fiat | | Mauro | Schmid | Jura - Fiat | | Giorgi | Tediashvili | Jura - Fiat | | Pello | Bilbao | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | David | Boily | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Jetse | Bol | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Sachin | Dulanjana | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Marco | Haller | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Marcel | Kittel | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Arvin | Moazemi | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Josip | Rumac | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Guillermo Andres | Beltran | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Iver Johan | Knotten | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Luis Enrique | Lopez Nolasco | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Carlos Alexandre | Manarelli | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Daniel | Munoz | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Wataru | Mutsumine | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Alejandro | Osorio | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Jose Gerardo | Ulloa | Los Pollos Hermanos | | Mikkel | Bjerg | Minions | | Borislav | Ivanov | Minions | | Dusan | Kalaba | Minions | | Pim | Ligthart | Minions | | Florentino | Marquez | Minions | | Pawel | Poljanski | Minions | | Rigoberto | Uran | Minions | | Mauri | Vansevenant | Minions | | Charles | Anguilet | Philips - Force India | | Joonas | Henttala | Philips - Force India | | Marten | Kooistra | Philips - Force India | | Victor | Lafay | Philips - Force India | | Gijs | Leemreize | Philips - Force India | | Cristian | Raileanu | Philips - Force India | | Ide | Schelling | Philips - Force India | | Dylan | Teuns | Philips - Force India | | Julian | Alaphilippe | Podium Ambition | | Akil | Campbell | Podium Ambition | | David | Dekker | Podium Ambition | | Joshua | Gayral | Podium Ambition | | Christopher | Lagane | Podium Ambition | | Kim | Le Court | Podium Ambition | | Alexandre | Mayer | Podium Ambition | | Bram | Welten | Podium Ambition | | Cyril | Barthe | Polar | | Joni | Brandao | Polar | | Robin | Carpenter | Polar | | Flavio | De Luna | Polar | | Cesare | Di Maggio | Polar | | Welle | Jallays | Polar | | Pierre | Latour | Polar | | Michael | Rodriguez Galindo | Polar | | Elias | Afewerki | Project: Africa | | Francesco | Bongiorno | Project: Africa | | Amanuel | Gebrezgabihier | Project: Africa | | Tsgabu Gebremaryam | Grmay | Project: Africa | | Thomas | Pidcock | Project: Africa | | Costa | Seibeb | Project: Africa | | Samuel | Ssabagwanya | Project: Africa | | Eddie | Van Heerden | Project: Africa | | Muhamma Afif | Ahmad Zamri | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Matthias | Brändle | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Aime | De Gendt | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Tim | Dees | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Kristian | Dyrnes | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Andreas | Leknessund | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Giorgi | Nareklishvili | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Daniel | Teklehaimanot | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Stanislaw | Aniolkowski | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Roman | Gladysh | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Oleksandr | Golovash | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Deins | Kanepejs | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Martin | Laas | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Roman | Lutsyshyn | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Oleksandr | Prevar | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Wojciech | Pszczolarski | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Matteo | Badilatti | Team UBS | | Geoffrey | Bouchard | Team UBS | | Nik | Cemazar | Team UBS | | Daniele | Dall'Oste | Team UBS | | Artur | Grigrian | Team UBS | | Patrick | Müller | Team UBS | | Simone | Ponzi | Team UBS | | Sebastien | Reichenbach | Team UBS | | Daniel | Hoelgaard | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Mikkel | Honore | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Max | Kanter | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Andreas | Kron | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Joris | Nieuwenhuis | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Casper | Pedersen | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Andris | Smirnovs | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Nur Aiman | Zariff | Tryg - Ritter Sport | | Andrea | Bagioli | Voyagin - Bird | | Tomohiro | Kinoshita | Voyagin - Bird | | Sindre Skjostad | Lunke | Voyagin - Bird | | Shoi | Matsuda | Voyagin - Bird | | Rei | Onodera | Voyagin - Bird | | Tushantha | Rajapakshage | Voyagin - Bird | | Jacob | Salcone | Voyagin - Bird | | Jingbiao | Zhao | Voyagin - Bird |
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| quadsas |
Posted on 11-01-2022 22:34
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Let's go Brandon
Should be able to score some with Brandle and Dyrnes
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| ember |
Posted on 12-01-2022 05:46
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Optimistic! The pressure is high, as we get to do Kwiatkowski's home race. It's obviously every man behind him, and we even brought Amezawa to help him out. His support team should be solid here, but it will come down to himself and how he's on the important stage 2, 5 6 and 7. Lots of stages to do well, but also lots of stages to miss out on. We should be attentive here and stay near the front at all the right moments, considering Kwiatkowski must be considered one of the GC favourites here.
Fingers crossed Amezawa can also add depth points and maybe even have a shot at a top 10 overall, but admittedly that has second priority in this race. Though, his stats look great for the GC days here, which makes me even more excited for this race! |
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| redordead |
Posted on 12-01-2022 07:12
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First goal race and a very important scoring race for Beltran and the team in general. Hopefully we can support him well and I would love to see a duel between him and Kwiatkowski 
Thanks for the preview LLS
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 12-01-2022 08:20
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Manarelli not among the sprinter favourites, so no mention for us, seems like it will be seven great days for LPH  Best bet for scoring is Munoz in an attack I guess, hoping his breakaway companions would be weaker than him. Thanks for the preview LLS, looking forward to the reports!
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 12-01-2022 09:20
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This race suited neither Hagen nor Uran tbf, but the latter had more free racedays so we're going with him. The prologue and stage 6 is where his moments should be.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 12-01-2022 10:29
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We are technically here, but like so many races it's only because we didn't really have a choice. Racking up that XP though!
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 12-01-2022 13:15
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Kraftwerk have contenders for every stage, hope this can translate into a good Teams performance.
A chance for Boily to show what he can do.
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 12-01-2022 13:32
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We're a long shot to score any points at all here, I fear. On paper, Perera should have a decent chance in the sprint stages, but he's not delivered so far this season. The other hope is for Vendrame, Ndayisenga or even Rosskopf to do something from a breakaway later in the week. We'll see, but I tend to enjoy following races where I have no expectations at all, so I'm looking forward to it  Thanks for the preview!
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-01-2022 14:23
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Our team here is a bit gutted thanks to the Giro. Prioritizing this makes sense for rankings, but I might only get one shot to send my full A team to a GT, led by a Danish superstar. So sacrifices were made. Still, I'm pleasantly surprised by the startlist. I kind of thought it would be stronger. Seeing that, we should still be in the mix for some minor placings.
This is the first time we're letting Aranburu loose as absolute leader in a race that should suit him. He's been weak so far this year, but he's also only ridden where we had other options on GC. This should be more indicative of his true level. Obviously he'll lose time in the prologue, but after that, it's a decent spot for him as a hybrid. The last two stages especially should favor his type of climbing. Obviously there are still a lot of stronger riders, but I'd like him to be in the mix till the end.
Sprinter startlist is wide open like always. Lander is the weakest of the crowd there from his acceleration, but we all know sprints are a lottery, so it'd be nice if he participated and was able to get some points out of these at least. That's all I can really expect from someone of his style these days.
Thanks for a great preview LLS!
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 12-01-2022 15:34
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The fact Kinoshita isn't a GC favourite... damn.
Went from being a consistent Top 5 rider in PCT to not even mentioned in a hill race.
Guess it really is time to focus only on MO/HIL hybrids.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-01-2022 21:16
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Wow... damn. I mean, I knew Alex was a horrendous prologue guy and would lose time, but wow. I honestly just didn't think there were 2 minutes to lose in 7 km.
GC done for us, but always nice to see an Eddie Stobart win. Congrats sutty!
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 12-01-2022 21:20
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Uran's early start perhaps cost him a bit as the later starters all did better. Hope those won't be crucial in the end.
Congratulations sutty! Thanks LLS
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 13-01-2022 05:08
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Missed out commenting on the preview...if Teuns can live up to his Top 10 billing, I'll be really happy with this race.
Not a great start for Teuns though! Henttala with a decent performance on Stage 1.
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| ember |
Posted on 13-01-2022 05:47
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Great start by Kwiatkowski! Really happy with that, especially considering the latter starters in general seemed to do very well. Was there a change in wind conditions? This start is great looking at stage 2, as it gives him a shot at yellow, if he can grab the stage win.
Thank you for the report, and for getting the race rolling, LLS! |
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| redordead |
Posted on 13-01-2022 06:54
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That was pretty darn awful even by Beltran's low TT standards
We have to start taking time back tomorrow.
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 13-01-2022 08:50
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Gonna have to start an investigation to find out how the Eddie Stobart staff managed to poison every other team's riders
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| ryant |
Posted on 13-01-2022 10:16
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Interesting race for us here, whether Carthy or McCarthy assume leadership for us here. Hopefully we can gather some depth scoring with the likes of Oliveira and Kennaugh who both have seemed to do very well in the prologue. In general I hope that these stages favour the stronger climbers and hopefully Carthy can spring a surprise in a race where we are using whatever race days he had left.
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 13-01-2022 11:26
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Rosskopf with another terrible TT performance, not great. But not like we were getting any points from that stage anyway. Now's the time for breakaway success!!
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 13-01-2022 13:17
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Baffled by those prologue results.
Strong performance by California 3rd place Dulanjana. He might be leader on the road after poor performances by Boily and Moazemi.
Congrats to sutty and thanks for the report LLS.
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