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Kent's Type_Rider adjustments.
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 25-06-2013 22:57
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Okay, these changes affect what rider type each rider is at the start of a career. Currently most riders are labeled at time-trial when clearly that isn't what they should be.
This change has to be made inside of a DB, so hopefully the database people will make these adjustments, until then though they can be done manually with an editor.
the part that needs changed is STA_type_rider.
Spoiler | tour | | f_sprint_ratio | 0 | | f_acceleration_ratio | 0 | | f_recuperation_ratio | 0.15 | | f_mountain_ratio | 0.65 | | f_resistance_ratio | 0 | | f_time_trial_ratio | 0.2 | | f_prologue_ratio | 0 | | f_endurance_ratio | 0 | | f_plain_ratio | 0 | | f_hill_ratio | 0 | | f_cobble_ratio | 0 | | f_baroudeur_ratio | 0 |
| mountain | | f_sprint_ratio | 0 | | f_acceleration_ratio | 0.15 | | f_recuperation_ratio | 0 | | f_mountain_ratio | 0.5 | | f_resistance_ratio | 0 | | f_time_trial_ratio | 0 | | f_prologue_ratio | 0 | | f_endurance_ratio | 0 | | f_plain_ratio | 0 | | f_hill_ratio | 0.2 | | f_cobble_ratio | 0 | | f_baroudeur_ratio | 0.15 |
| timetrial | | f_sprint_ratio | 0 | | f_acceleration_ratio | 0 | | f_recuperation_ratio | 0 | | f_mountain_ratio | 0 | | f_resistance_ratio | 0.2 | | f_time_trial_ratio | 0.4 | | f_prologue_ratio | 0.3 | | f_endurance_ratio | 0 | | f_plain_ratio | 0.1 | | f_hill_ratio | 0 | | f_cobble_ratio | 0 | | f_baroudeur_ratio | 0 |
| sprint | | f_sprint_ratio | 0.5 | | f_acceleration_ratio | 0.3 | | f_recuperation_ratio | 0 | | f_mountain_ratio | 0 | | f_resistance_ratio | 0 | | f_time_trial_ratio | 0 | | f_prologue_ratio | 0 | | f_endurance_ratio | 0 | | f_plain_ratio | 0.2 | | f_hill_ratio | 0 | | f_cobble_ratio | 0 | | f_baroudeur_ratio | 0 |
| ardennaises | | f_sprint_ratio | 0 | | f_acceleration_ratio | 0.1 | | f_recuperation_ratio | 0 | | f_mountain_ratio | 0 | | f_resistance_ratio | 0 | | f_time_trial_ratio | 0 | | f_prologue_ratio | 0 | | f_endurance_ratio | 0.3 | | f_plain_ratio | 0 | | f_hill_ratio | 0.6 | | f_cobble_ratio | 0 | | f_baroudeur_ratio | 0 |
| flandriennes | | f_sprint_ratio | 0 | | f_acceleration_ratio | 0 | | f_recuperation_ratio | 0 | | f_mountain_ratio | 0 | | f_resistance_ratio | 0 | | f_time_trial_ratio | 0 | | f_prologue_ratio | 0 | | f_endurance_ratio | 0.15 | | f_plain_ratio | 0.15 | | f_hill_ratio | 0 | | f_cobble_ratio | 0.7 | | f_baroudeur_ratio | 0 |
| flat | | f_sprint_ratio | 0.1 | | f_acceleration_ratio | 0.1 | | f_recuperation_ratio | 0 | | f_mountain_ratio | 0 | | f_resistance_ratio | 0 | | f_time_trial_ratio | 0 | | f_prologue_ratio | 0 | | f_endurance_ratio | 0 | | f_plain_ratio | 0.5 | | f_hill_ratio | 0 | | f_cobble_ratio | 0 | | f_baroudeur_ratio | 0.3 |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 26-06-2013 00:31
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I believe these numbers are used to calculate the AVG value. I will check tomorrow but you should be careful when editing such tables. |
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 26-06-2013 00:39
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Lachi wrote:
I believe these numbers are used to calculate the AVG value. I will check tomorrow but you should be careful when editing such tables.
They don't calculate average anymore, not sure what does, but I just tested to see if the values changed as I adjusted and they didn't.
Edited by Kentaurus on 26-06-2013 00:44
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| Lachi |
Posted on 26-06-2013 01:04
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As far as I know, the AVG will not be calculated immediately. |
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 26-06-2013 01:32
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Lachi wrote:
As far as I know, the AVG will not be calculated immediately.
Not sure when it does, just simulated 3 months of a season, no changes. Either way, the values aren't that different, no one will be move than a point off of their previous average.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 26-06-2013 07:21
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Thanks Kentaurus, this really improves rider classifications and makes the development of young riders much more true to life.
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| Matt97 |
Posted on 27-06-2013 07:32
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Could someone share his or her .cdb? I'm trying to put it in the PCMdailyRealNameDB-AngloEdition-2013NC.cdb but it doesn't save the content in both Full and Fast Editor. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 27-06-2013 07:35
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Matt97 wrote:
Could someone share his or her .cdb? I'm trying to put it in the PCMdailyRealNameDB-AngloEdition-2013NC.cdb but it doesn't save the content in both Full and Fast Editor.
It works with Lachi's for me.
Though I edited a lot of stats as well, so I can't share it. 
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 27-06-2013 07:38
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Jesleyh wrote:
Matt97 wrote:
Could someone share his or her .cdb? I'm trying to put it in the PCMdailyRealNameDB-AngloEdition-2013NC.cdb but it doesn't save the content in both Full and Fast Editor.
It works with Lachi's for me.
Though I edited a lot of stats as well, so I can't share it.
It should save without a problem. I'd upload mine, but I've already edited the hell out of it in other aspects also.
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| Matt97 |
Posted on 27-06-2013 07:41
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Kentaurus wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Matt97 wrote:
Could someone share his or her .cdb? I'm trying to put it in the PCMdailyRealNameDB-AngloEdition-2013NC.cdb but it doesn't save the content in both Full and Fast Editor.
It works with Lachi's for me.
Though I edited a lot of stats as well, so I can't share it.
It should save without a problem. I'd upload mine, but I've already edited the hell out of it in other aspects also.
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 29-06-2013 00:45
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If anyone still needs, here's the "original" PCM.daily Real Name DB with Kentaurus updated STA_type_rider (oh, and nice job, rider types are looking good now )
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| Cracu |
Posted on 29-06-2013 12:33
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Thank you but what should I do with this file ? Does this file also rectify riders favourite races (i.e., with PCMdailyRealNameDB, Jurgen VDB favourite races are Giro and Vuelta or in reality, it's TDF)? |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 30-06-2013 05:21
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You should place it in My Docs/PCM13/Mod/Database (and then choose it in game). It doesn't rectify rider favorite races, it's the exact same thing as PCMDaily's Real Name DB (the 2013 NC Anglo version btw) just with corrected type_rider values
As for why VDB has Giro and Vuelta, actually he has no favorite races set in the DB, meaning he'll get random fav races according to his nationality/type of rider in each career.
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| Cracu |
Posted on 30-06-2013 11:27
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Thank you lluuiiggii ;-)
For VDB, with the original database, his fav races are TDF and Dauphiné, wich is the truth. Does it have an impact on the game ? Is it possible to change it (with an editor)?
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| nutter453 |
Posted on 30-06-2013 18:37
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I've made the exact same changes to the STA_type_rider as the file lluuiiggii posted but for some reason with mine all the riders show up as Punchers but his works... I'm not sure what I've done wrong.
I've attached my database if anyone can help. (My save that I'm playing) I've made the same changes to the main database, which is the PCMdailyAngloedition with 2013NC's which gave me the same results
Thanks for any help
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-06-2013 18:42
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nutter453 wrote:
I've made the exact same changes to the STA_type_rider as the file lluuiiggii posted but for some reason with mine all the riders show up as Punchers but his works... I'm not sure what I've done wrong.
I've attached my database if anyone can help. (My save that I'm playing) I've made the same changes to the main database, which is the PCMdailyAngloedition with 2013NC's which gave me the same results
Thanks for any help
Nah, you're wrong.
f_baroudeur_ratio was still listed at 0,15 in your .cdb.
Attached .cdb fixes it.
Jesleyh attached the following file:
Edited by Jesleyh on 30-06-2013 18:42
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| nutter453 |
Posted on 30-06-2013 18:44
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Jesleyh wrote:
nutter453 wrote:
I've made the exact same changes to the STA_type_rider as the file lluuiiggii posted but for some reason with mine all the riders show up as Punchers but his works... I'm not sure what I've done wrong.
I've attached my database if anyone can help. (My save that I'm playing) I've made the same changes to the main database, which is the PCMdailyAngloedition with 2013NC's which gave me the same results
Thanks for any help
Nah, you're wrong.
f_baroudeur_ratio was still listed at 0,15 in your .cdb.
Attached .cdb fixes it.
Ahh, I knew I would miss something.  That explains why literally every rider was listed as a Puncher.
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| Whomario |
Posted on 15-07-2013 12:51
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does this now work in an ongoing career ? Just changed the values and no display has been corrected (f.e. Kittel/Degenkolb still not as sprinters) |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 15-07-2013 13:42
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As far as I know, it does not apply immediately. Did you go to the next day or next week? |
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| Whomario |
Posted on 15-07-2013 13:53
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Lachi wrote:
As far as I know, it does not apply immediately. Did you go to the next day or next week?
next day, yes. Will copy the save and try for the beginning of the next month.
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