PCM.daily banner
28-11-2024 08:31
PCM.daily
Users Online
· Guests Online: 60

· Members Online: 1
knockout

· Total Members: 161,845
· Newest Member: tracyberg
View Thread
PCM.daily » Pro Cycling Manager 2006-2020 » Pro Cycling Manager 2012
 Print Thread
World Champs
Flair
Why are World Championships restricted to career mode? You can play the national events as a classic without having to go through career, but not the world champs? Unless I am totally missing it, but I've been through the lot and I cannot find the option.

If its not avaliable, is there a file I can edit to unlock it? Its so annoying knowing its in the game, but not being able to play it because I dont have the time to go through an entire career season and then suck because I rushed the season.
 
lluuiiggii
Not possible, there's nothing we can do to change it unfortunately Frown
 
Flair
Blah. Guess I shouldnt be suprised. Been let down so much by this game, I guess I should have expected it would be impossible. No English Nats, No World Champs. You have to end up hacking the damn graphics file to disable water to make a bunch of stages even playable.

Lets hope another game studio sees this game being popular and develops thier own version. Its the only game like this atm and I suspect it means the devs are lazy as they have no competition.
 
lluuiiggii
Flair wrote:
Blah. Guess I shouldnt be suprised. Been let down so much by this game, I guess I should have expected it would be impossible. No English Nats, No World Champs. You have to end up hacking the damn graphics file to disable water to make a bunch of stages even playable.

You could download a DB which adds it Wink (PCMDaily for example Pfft)
 
SportingNonsense
lluuiiggii wrote:
Flair wrote:
Blah. Guess I shouldnt be suprised. Been let down so much by this game, I guess I should have expected it would be impossible. No English Nats, No World Champs. You have to end up hacking the damn graphics file to disable water to make a bunch of stages even playable.

You could download a DB which adds it Wink (PCMDaily for example Pfft)


Although doing that will only give you the British Nats Pfft
farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/9357923136_f1e68270f3_n.jpg
 
lluuiiggii
SportingNonsense wrote:
Although doing that will only give you the British Nats Pfft

I know, that's why I only "bolded" that part Wink
 
SportingNonsense
lluuiiggii wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Although doing that will only give you the British Nats Pfft

I know, that's why I only "bolded" that part Wink


You bolded English Nats. No such race exists Wink
farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/9357923136_f1e68270f3_n.jpg
 
lluuiiggii
SportingNonsense wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Although doing that will only give you the British Nats Pfft

I know, that's why I only "bolded" that part Wink

You bolded English Nats. No such race exists Wink

Ah, yes. I guess he meant that then Pfft
 
Flair
Yeah, I looked at the mod forum but I cant find anything that really tells me how i download a stage and install it. Just how to add a stage i've created to the game. It seems like way to much work to mod a game frankly, it doesnt exactly look like you just drop the new file into a folder and then the game reads it. Which is how other games that require mods to be a half decent game run.

I mean, I cant even get the game to save a edited database. I'll make edits, save to export, save as a new database file, go into game, load the new database..... and its exactly the same as it was before. So I go back and check, low and behold, the new database doesnt have my edits. So I re-edit, save, and you guessed it.

I dont think I've actually found anything in this game that works properly/fully.
 
SportingNonsense
Flair wrote:
Yeah, I looked at the mod forum but I cant find anything that really tells me how i download a stage and install it. Just how to add a stage i've created to the game. It seems like way to much work to mod a game frankly, it doesnt exactly look like you just drop the new file into a folder and then the game reads it. Which is how other games that require mods to be a half decent game run.

I mean, I cant even get the game to save a edited database. I'll make edits, save to export, save as a new database file, go into game, load the new database..... and its exactly the same as it was before. So I go back and check, low and behold, the new database doesnt have my edits. So I re-edit, save, and you guessed it.

I dont think I've actually found anything in this game that works properly/fully.


What you want to download is a database package: https://pcmdaily.com/infusions/pro_dow...p?catid=75

You do just download it and place it in the folders, the game will recognise it and youll likely enjoy playing PCM a lot more
farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/9357923136_f1e68270f3_n.jpg
 
Flair
SportingNonsense wrote:
Flair wrote:
Yeah, I looked at the mod forum but I cant find anything that really tells me how i download a stage and install it. Just how to add a stage i've created to the game. It seems like way to much work to mod a game frankly, it doesnt exactly look like you just drop the new file into a folder and then the game reads it. Which is how other games that require mods to be a half decent game run.

I mean, I cant even get the game to save a edited database. I'll make edits, save to export, save as a new database file, go into game, load the new database..... and its exactly the same as it was before. So I go back and check, low and behold, the new database doesnt have my edits. So I re-edit, save, and you guessed it.

I dont think I've actually found anything in this game that works properly/fully.


What you want to download is a database package: https://pcmdaily.com/infusions/pro_dow...p?catid=75

You do just download it and place it in the folders, the game will recognise it and youll likely enjoy playing PCM a lot more


Cheers, I'll give that a go.

Incidently, any idea where the place to read of on actually playing through a career would be. I've tried started with a Pro Tour teams, but theres soooo many riders and races to manage off the bat I figured maybe it would be better to create a team where I could pick a smaller team of riders. However, apparently you really shouldnt pick a big name rider doing that, otherwise your sponsors just talk about TdF and Giro and major classic victories as goals. Races I wont even be allowed to compete in yet.
 
Ad Bot
Posted on 28-11-2024 08:31
Bot Agent

Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09

IP: None  
CrueTrue
You shouldn't care too much about the goals, though, as ... well, you guessed it, they don't really work.
 
http://www.pcmdaily.com
Lachi
I recommend to start with a team like Sky. The game will assign races to your team and also assign riders to the races. You only have to make sure that Wiggins and Froome are assigned to the Tour de France and have a according Fitness plan also make sure that they did not race the Giro d'Italia. Then you can just play some races and see how it goes because the early races do not matter that much. At the time you reach the Tour de France, you should have some understanding of how the game works and you should be able to aim for winning the race.
 
Flair
CrueTrue wrote:
You shouldn't care too much about the goals, though, as ... well, you guessed it, they don't really work.


And that wont have a major negative impact on my gameplay? I assumed if I didn't achievement at least a certain amount i'd get funding cut or something.

Lachi wrote:
I recommend to start with a team like Sky. The game will assign races to your team and also assign riders to the races. You only have to make sure that Wiggins and Froome are assigned to the Tour de France and have a according Fitness plan also make sure that they did not race the Giro d'Italia. Then you can just play some races and see how it goes because the early races do not matter that much. At the time you reach the Tour de France, you should have some understanding of how the game works and you should be able to aim for winning the race.


Well, I've tried that, but the reason I am trying to go with a custom is that i'd like to try and do a career run with a more managable sqquad to start. Sky have a full roster (or near full) and its a bit like picking 3 different squads at once alot of the time. Its like playing football manager and having to manage the first team reserves and youth team. Once I'm used to the game and have a handle on all its mechanics etc then I do that. If i'd tried to do that when I first started playing FM it would have killed me.

Hense running smaller teams. What I was trying to do is basically create a Sky Pro Sprint Cycling. Take Cav, hire a train and some engines. Cav is leader, the team races for him, and thats it. I'll only be entering one race at a time, I'll have a team of 10 pros with some youngsters and I'd be able to have fun destroying things with Cav all season whilst getting to learn the training system with the young guys. Then I can either go a start with a full blown trade team or start expanding the custom as the kids gets good.

Race wise, I'm getting pretty ok. I just completed my first successful TdF tour on Stage Race mode after a couple of botched attempts went wrong in the mountains. Finally got it sorted and ended up winning Yellow, Green and Polka-dot jerseys with Sky. And the fastest team time XD.

Yellow was Wiggo and Green obviously Cav. The Polka-dot was odd though, not the obvious candidate of Froome (because well, his not allowed to break away XD). Kanstantsin Sivtsov won it! No leg break on my run through fortunately Pfft
 
Lachi
No funding cut. You get the same amount until the contract expires. the only problem could arise when you try to prolong the contract with your sponsor but you always have the possibility to search for other sponsors.
 
Flair
Right, and I guess that if I get good results, I'll have plenty of good sponsors willing to give me the funding i'll need to continue that. So I dont need to worry about sponsor goals and just make my own schedules, which is useful to know.

The other thing thats confusing me atm is fitness and fatigue. There so many parts to it and its the interactions mainly that are killing me.

I've got a good handle on fitness within the stage races due to Stage Race mode. As I said, I've done some TdF tours and so I see how the stats relate in regards to that, recovery between days, stamina basically being your max green bar and resistance making that bar reduce slower.

What baffles me in career is that you have training for fitness. So at the start of the season i can plan what fitness levels are where for specific races etc. That I pretty much understand.

Fatigue I'm not sure on though. How exactly does that work. Presumabably it accumulates per race and I've read training also adds to fatigue which would be logical. I'd assume that having max greeen fitness in training would give you max fitness but give extra fatigue.

But then, I beleive theres race fitness as well? So your rider wont be fully fit until they have done a few races because they need those races to get properly race fit.

And then of course you have fitness camps too!
 
lluuiiggii
Flair wrote:
Fatigue I'm not sure on though. How exactly does that work. Presumabably it accumulates per race and I've read training also adds to fatigue which would be logical. I'd assume that having max greeen fitness in training would give you max fitness but give extra fatigue.

But then, I beleive theres race fitness as well? So your rider wont be fully fit until they have done a few races because they need those races to get properly race fit.

And then of course you have fitness camps too!

Racing doesn't have an influence in fatigue, only the training program/schedule (the level bars). Indeed, the higher the level bar the bigger the fatigue your rider will have. If your rider has a big fatigue level, his max training fitness will decrease from 80 (the bigger the lower the max fitness), with that being the only consequence afaik.

As for racing fitness, there are 20 points for that. You win approx. 2 points per racing day, lose 1 for each day your rider isn't in a race. After 60 race days the max racing fitness also starts to decrease, approximately a point every 2 days.
 
Flair
lluuiiggii wrote:
Flair wrote:
Fatigue I'm not sure on though. How exactly does that work. Presumabably it accumulates per race and I've read training also adds to fatigue which would be logical. I'd assume that having max greeen fitness in training would give you max fitness but give extra fatigue.

But then, I beleive theres race fitness as well? So your rider wont be fully fit until they have done a few races because they need those races to get properly race fit.

And then of course you have fitness camps too!

Racing doesn't have an influence in fatigue, only the training program/schedule (the level bars). Indeed, the higher the level bar the bigger the fatigue your rider will have. If your rider has a big fatigue level, his max training fitness will decrease from 80 (the bigger the lower the max fitness), with that being the only consequence afaik.

As for racing fitness, there are 20 points for that. You win approx. 2 points per racing day, lose 1 for each day your rider isn't in a race. After 60 race days the max racing fitness also starts to decrease, approximately a point every 2 days.


Sweet. That covers pretty much everything. They really should have that better explained in the guide XD.

Just the fitness camps left now. And actually Training camps too. They have no effect on fatigue? Also, fitness boost from camps means that pretty much regardless of training sched if you have cash you riders will always be able to be fully fit right (bar fatigue/race fitness)?
 
Lachi
Fitness camps can only be used in the beginning of the season and they will increase the fatigue fast.

Training camps have a similar effect than doping. Certain stats of your riders will increase for a short period. But since the race difficulty also only affects the stats of your riders (it is a factor) it would be easier to lower the difficulty instead of sending the riders to training camps. Or in other words, it would be silly to raise the difficulty and the use training camps.

BTW: The AI teams do not use any camps.
 
Flair
Lol. Well run training camps do have massive effects IRL too. Its basically how Sky had their awesome run over the summer. So basically they are worth considering to try and punch above your weight, but in thier current form are pretty much too overpowered to be regarded as balanced.

Also, it wouldnt really be silly to raise diff and use camps. Camps require time and cash, hense even if the two cancel each other out it still requires good and effective management to be able to afford them and fit them into your schedule to get the best effect from it.

New Question is on how the wildcard invites work. I'm guessing its tied into reputation of riders/ability of riders, but not sure exactly. I made a new custom team to focus on stage races, and requested invites to all the CWT events. I got into the TDF, Paris-Nice but then for Tirreno-Adratico only two teams other then the usual were invited and neither were me.

My first thought was maybe something to do with the TTT and I didnt have enough TTers but I have 6 riders with 70+ TT so it wasnt that.

I do have Chris Lo Maval thought, who is French with Internation rep i think. I have no italian riders at all. I dont have any of Superstar rating but I do have another rider who is a star.

Another posibility I guess is due to the clashing nature of Paris-Nice and Tir-Adr. Since I'm not a CWT team, maybe I'm only able to do one CWT event at a time. I have enough riders to send full teams to both (although i think I'd have to send one 18yo newgen on 59 total rating unless I sign someone.)

But yeah, if anyone knows how invites work, would be nice Smile
 
Jump to Forum:
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Latest content
Screenshots
Vuelta a España 2008
Vuelta a España 2008
PCM 07: PCM.daily DB
Fantasy Betting
Current bets:
No bets available.
Best gamblers:
bullet fighti... 18,476 PCM$
bullet df_Trek 17,374 PCM$
bullet Marcovdw 15,445 PCM$
bullet jseadog1 13,552 PCM$
bullet baseba... 10,439 PCM$

bullet Main Fantasy Betting page
bullet Rankings: Top 100
ManGame Betting
Current bets:
No bets available.
Best gamblers:
bullet Ollfardh 21,890 PCM$
bullet df_Trek 15,520 PCM$
bullet Marcovdw 14,900 PCM$
bullet jseadog1 13,500 PCM$
bullet baseball... 7,332 PCM$

bullet Main MG Betting page
bullet Get weekly MG PCM$
bullet Rankings: Top 100
Render time: 0.59 seconds